Biden should have never met with Donald Trump.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

That is all... Look at his plans. Look at his personnel choices. Why are we normalizing this? This is madness. This is madness on steroids.

[Whyisthisstillclose]

1. Amen!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. Why are we normalizing this? Why are we defining deviancy down?

[Whyisthisstillclose]

22. Love Joe, but we Democrats have never

fought as desperately and as fiercely (dirty?) as the Repukes. Frustrates me often. Joe is a gentleman. I'm not.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. These aren't normal times.

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To act as if they are is not only fanciful, it's dangerous.

[Dem4life1234]

68. It's extremely frustrating

One of the most frustrating problems I have with this modern day Dem party. Unlike the past, we had some fighters.

He is still stuck in the 1976 mode where Dems worked together with Republicans. These Republicans today are not cut from the same cloth. They are devious.

[Blue Full Moon]

44. The Book How Democracies Die has a section on that.

[claudette]

2. Agree

After the way Dumpy attacked him, Biden owes him NO respect. It's not the law that tney have to meet.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Trump called Biden a "broken down piece of crap".

[hlthe2b]

8. I agree, but I doubt Biden will unleash (when the cameras are gone). He probably (wrongly) believes that he has

the chance to avoid the unleashing of Trump's most despicable behavior and policies. He probably knows that is not going to be influenced by anything he does or doesn't do or says, but feels he has to try.

Painful...

[hlthe2b]

3. It upsets me too, but Pres. Biden thinks it is the "honorable" thing to do.

I likewise know he won't pardon Hunter--even though virtually no one would have been prosecuted for those offenses under the same circumstances--because he thinks it the 'honorable" thing to do, unlike what Trump would do. On this, I think Biden is being manipulated. sigh...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. "An unjust law is no law at all."

In that vein an aberrant president is no president at all.

[hlthe2b]

11. No argument here.

[hawkeye21]

32. The honorable thing to do would be to stand by democracy and keep calling out the neo-Nazis

Neville Chamberlain played nice with Hitler. Hey, guys, Adolf wants "peace in our time." Let's be honorable British gentlemen and respect the German leader. Look, he even signed this nice peace treaty.

Holy hell, people. Wake up! Let's not keep making the same mistakes the Brits made. You cannot appease a dictator. Stop trying. It makes everything we did in the campaign feel that much more futile. And if Biden and the Dems keep this up, I want my damn money back. I gave more than I could afford, and I didn't do it so the Dems could make nice with this freakn' piece of scum who will, once again, have the nuclear codes and access to all of America's secrets.

[hlthe2b]

34. I agree and have indicated multiple times. I am merely stating my thoughts as to why Biden is doing what he is.

That said, it is rather late now to stop him.

[Conjuay]

5. "But, but, but, the price of EGGS! ..."

[BootinUp]

7. Biden takes every chance to lead by example

Has nothing to do with normalizing Trump. In fact it is doing the opposite if u think about it.

[PortTack]

50. Great point. It's the same as when Kamala walked over to t-rump and shook hands with the mad man

[BootinUp]

57. Good comparison. Nt

[OMGWTF]

66. She introduced herself so Shitler would have to pronounce her name correctly.

Have I told you lately how much I loathe Rethuglicans?

[BlueTsunami2018]

10. He should have Piss Wig arrested when he shows up.

Now that would be fun.

[Jack Valentino]

42. And renditioned to Guantanomo by Federal marshalls--- "OFFICIAL ACT" by his rights

under Bush's terrorism laws... also Biden can order Trump's SS detail to "stand down", so that's no problem...

then he can tell Vance to "GET THE HELL OFF MY COUCH!"

[johnnyfins]

63. Havent heard Pisswig in a while.

Forgot how funny that nickname was.

[bdamomma]

12. Giving the Felon fascist

the keys to fascism.

Love Joe, but this is not acceptable.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. It would have been like General de Gaulle giving Adolf Hitler a tour of Paris

[bdamomma]

21. so bad

huh????

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. In this analogy Biden is de Gaulle and Trump is Hitler

[bdamomma]

33. Yes,

I get it. Now if some 51% of the electorate paid some attention to history. Really sad, the dumbing down of Americans.

[Blue Full Moon]

45. 100%

[BobbyZim]

13. This is normal now

We ain’t normalizing anything.

We are in year ten of one man and his whack-a-doodle ideas dominating everything.

He has utterly rebuilt one of our two political parties in his image. And he’s convinced 50 present of the population seemingly that his ranting are good.

Performative resistance probably only makes him stronger at this point.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. The Germans supported the NAZIS as long as they were winning.

I wouldn't say they were a normal political movement.

[BobbyZim]

19. I was over on the bench!!

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[InAbLuEsTaTe]

14. 100%

[moonscape]

16. If it's what Biden needed to do

then I give him a long leash.

[Emile]

17. I totally agree. I said the exact same thing to

my wife this morning when they showed Trump's jet taking off from Florida headed to DC.

I hate to admit, but I was thinking how nice it would be if he didn't make it to DC.

[dickthegrouch]

48. Such a shame that Floriduh has an extradition treaty with DC

[tritsofme]

20. Biden has a responsibility to lead an orderly transition. I don't think he is wrong here.

[bdamomma]

25. President Biden

is just too much of a gentleman and he respects this country, even to the point to give this felon respect.

[hawkeye21]

35. You don't give respect, you earn it.

And obviously MAGA Trump has earned nothing but derision and scorn from any normal sentient being, including Joe Biden. Appeasement is ugly and futile. Treat Trump and his cult like the satanic movement they are. Stay the hell away from them. Don't do ANYTHING to suggest they are normal. They are neo-Nazis. Call them out, don't cuddle up with them.

It makes me sick to see Joe bow down to the dicatator. C'mon, man. Stand up for decency. Stand up for all of us who gave money we didn't have and donated time we couldn't afford to try to stop the takeover of our country. Making nice with Trump sells us out. Stop it!

[hawkeye21]

26. Bullshit

Orderly transition? LOL

Biden has a responsibility to democracy and the Constitution, not to Trump and MAGA, the people who stormed the gawd-damned Capitol and got away with it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. The only obligation he has is to leave the office when his term ended.

[SoCalDavidS]

29. Bullshit

T did not give a shit about an orderly transition. In fact, HE INCITED A FUCKING INSURRECTION!!!!!

The result is that he won, and the repubs took over EVERY BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT!

So, the American people don't want "orderly."

[tritsofme]

31. So Biden should incite an insurrection? Great ideas here today folks.

[hawkeye21]

37. There's a slight difference between inciting insurrection and pretending MAGA Trump is normal

Apparently you don't know that.

Or I suppose you think the colonists should have invited King George III to Boston for a spot of tea instead of starting a revolution. Wake up, man.

[tritsofme]

46. Who is saying he is normal? Biden is doing the bare minimum.

He’s not going to stamp his feet and throw a temper tantrum, even though that would make plenty of folks here happy.

[bdamomma]

38. Those who voted

for him don't want "orderly" they just believed in the lies and spew he said over and over again.

[kacekwl]

36. Let the poor

transition team handle it. Throw a Big Mac and a giant book of procedures that he can't read at him and tell him to get lost.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

52. The president is only obliged to leave the office peacefully.

[tenderfoot]

54. LOL

[hawkeye21]

24. Absolutely agree

The Democrats should be running the other way and continuing to say what they said in the campaign: Trump and MAGA are threats to national security and the free world. They are neo-Nazis, and we're not going to normalize their inhumane Project 2025 plans. Biden should stand up and tell the American people what a mistake they've made and tell Trump and MAGA to go to hell, and in those exact words. He should explain that the Democrats will be fighting Trump and MAGA tooth and nail until we take the country back from the thugs and recommit to the rule of law and the sanctity of the Constitution.

If this is the most important moment in US history since the Civil War, by gawd act like it. Stop the foolishness. Playing nice is what got us here in the first place. Dems need a Sherman-like scorched earth policy. Destroy Trump and MAGA, don't pretend to appease them. That's bullshit. Stop it!

[Mike Nelson]

39. I would ask...

... why? Why meet with him? If it's tradition, then that's been broken. I would issue a statement saying there can be no traditional meeting with the man who broke the tradition. If the reason to meet is so Biden can get a feeling about Trump's current state of mind/plans, then meet. It's possible Biden can gain some information that could be useful, and deliver the information to Democratic Party leaders, the other ex-Presidents, and/or important world allies.

[allegorical oracle]

40. Looks like Melania isn't so much into the tradition thingy. Just saw on my

newsfeed that Musk accompanied TSF to Washington.

[magicarpet]

41. Yes Biden is a traditionalist, an appeaser, respectful of decorum, and a gentleman.

But normalizing Nazis and making believe their better angels will eventually rule the day is dangerously fanciful thinking. This type of thinking brought us here to this point. This habitual Que Sera Sera mindset has been our downfall, and likely the causation for the end of American Democracy.

Again,.. with ruthless Nazis, if they challenge you to a gun fight,.. it is ill advised to just show up with a plate of freshly baked chocolate chip cookies and chocolate milk loaded with marshmellows, but no weapons.

They will quickly and gleefully mow you the fuck down.

Our Que Sera Sera - "What Ever Will Be, Will Be" attitude and hoping for a better tomorrow has brought us here to this point of desperation that we are about to be over run by Fascism.

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[MFM008]

43. This take the high road

Bullshit is why we keep losing our ass's to dirty players like the rape maggot and Bush's. We take our manners and " peaceful" transition and watch while they destroy everything.

[GreenWave]

47. Showing tact and diplomacy to a deranged barbarian?

[BannonsLiver]

49. Agree. I don't think any former presidents should show up at his coronation either.

In 2016 we had not seen what he’s capable of. This time everyone knows.

[BlueKota]

51. Totally agree

[onecaliberal]

53. Yup

[ramedy]

55. This is why Democrats appear weak.

Joe should have given the shitbag the same courtesy he received from him in 2020.

That is, none.

[TNNurse]

56. I disagree

Decorum, responsibility, upholding tradition is important.

Also, if he had not, we would never hear the end of it from the other side.

[BannonsLiver]

58. All of those are signs of weakness in our political climate.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

61. Without being literally scatalogical I can't tell you things I hold in lower esteem than MAGAS.

[colorado_ufo]

59. Trump has no interest in what Biden has to say.

Biden will have his ideas stolen and Trump take the credit. At the very least, it is a waste of time on both their parts.

[usaf-vet]

60. Ya thats us being the nice guys no matter what by walking the high road while they lay new concrete right over us. IT...

.... NEEDS TO STOP.

If they don't fight this election results to the last court decision (MAGA lost 60), they will lose folks like me.
I am in my late 70s, and I'm really really sick of laying down and playing dead and saying thank you for F..ing us ...please do it again.

I've lived through multiple stolen elections, starting with Bush v Gore and others over the last 24 years. I've watched multiple INVESTIGATION "to get to the truth" buried without a peep to the public of the actual results. Trump's AG, William Barr, buried the Mueller report. And we still don't know sh1t about what was in it.

Now, Jack Smith is wrapping up his report and turning it over to the feckless AG Garland... why shouldn't we expect that to be buried as deep as Mueller's?

WE HAVE ALL PAID OUR DUES AND DESERVE TO SEE THAT REPORT. From the first character of the first word on the first page to the last punctuation after the last character of the last word on the last page. WITH NO REDACTIONS.

Do what reporters do? Use the term ALLEGED wherever it is needed when an individual is named.

[Ms. Toad]

62. We are normalizing the process of democracy.

The fact that around half the country voted for someone unfit to be president is, unfortunately, part of that.

[58Sunliner]

64. I agree completely. Biden should be ordering the intelligence agencies to look at the votes and data transfer.

I don't think we should cede power. Just what would DT do? We all know the answer. Full court effort to save democracy should be our goal. They no longer recognize the rules. Have not for quite a while. The military should step up and say that they will not follow unconstitutional orders from Trump, who does not recognize the laws of our country.

[PatrickforB]

65. Institutionalism will do us in. Biden is an institutionalist to the core who believes good will out and the guardrails

will hold.

Trump doesn't give a shit about any government program whatsoever. He merely wants to stay out of jail, continue the grift, and golf.

[DENVERPOPS]

67. And nowhere, have I seen mentioned

the old debate technique that Trump used, by intent, on Biden during the debate, to leave Biden totally speechless

Look it up! it is called the "Gish Gallop" debate technique and why didn't Biden's debate preparers prepare him for that.....

And not one single Dem called the Republican's out constantly using the old adage:

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with Bullshit" technique they used every hour of every day.....

[Johnny2X2X]

69. This meeting is important for the country

Trump's a monster, but he responds well to flattery and this can help allay some of his "revenge" fantasies.

[tenderfoot]

70. This is wishful thinking...

no different than a serial killer that promises never to kill again.

You cannot be THAT naive