Dearborn Residents Show Remorse After Trump Win: 'He's Playing Us'

[kansasobama]

Some of the items there:

"They didn't vote for Trump because they believe Trump is the best candidate," Osama Siblani, publisher of The Arab American News, told Politico. "No, they voted for Trump because they want to punish the Democrats and Harris."

"It's clear as day that he's playing us," Alawieh added of Trump. "I think he's going to target us. That's what he's going to do. He's going to target our families, and it's going to hurt. So, I think we're about to find out."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dearborn-residents-show-remorse-after-trump-win-he-s-playing-us/ar-AA1u1vrN?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=27859660fed64987a722087c23879eff&ei=29


Okay, good luck finding sympathy after helping install a fascist who will destroy our democracy. Do not expect us to respond to fundraising letters to help Gaza. Oh, when you protest about Gaza, watch Trump send the military over, declare protesters as Hamas, and send them to Gitmo. What should I do then? Sympathize? Why? I do sympathize with Gaza but, man, it is not going to happen after this.

[RandySF]

1. FAFO

[3Hotdogs]

77. Fucked around and the "find out" is the Huckster.... probably, with a little help from Jesus.

Huckabee: "There is no West Bank. There are no Palestinians."

[underpants]

79. *

F
All
the F’ing way
Off

[BannonsLiver]

2. Don't worry folks, Jill Stein will sort it out for you.

[Hekate]

63. I'm sure Jillsie will be right on it -- in 4 years

[NEOH]

139. Jillsie is collecting lots of money

Jillsie is collecting lots of money from Leon and Pooty right about now.

[Scubamatt]

278. Does she

Actually DO anything in off election years or just show up every 3 1/2 years to take away vote from Democrats. I mean, she's been doing this for how many years now? Do the people who vote for her EVER catch on?

[Hekate]

280. God only knows, but I think it has something to do with that dinner she & Gen. Flynn had w Putin...

…and a passel of Kremlin bigwigs. I’m sure you’ve seen the photo — Jill looks unbelievably self-satisfied, and I don’t think it was the borscht.

In any case, when she shows up to “run for president” it’s always very strategically targeted to maximize damage to the Democrat. She is not, repeat not, interested in my California vote. She is interested in swing districts that weigh heavily in the Electoral College.

Hillary Clinton, who won the popular vote, lost at least one state’s Electoral College cache by the number of votes Jill Stein got. This time around Jill worked over the Muslim immigrant population of Dearborn MI, and they voted — for her, or Uncommitted, or for Trump — but not for Kamala.

[Cha]

107. Yeah, Like she Fucking did in 2016 for World Class Suckers.

[tenderfoot]

3. He wasn't playing them - they chose to ignore the obvious

eom

[sarisataka]

4. Misled? I don't think so

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[BigMin28]

15. We are about to witness

21st century genocide on a large scale. Who is going to stop them, the UN?

[TheKentuckian]

183. Call Donald. Call Jill. Check the couch cushions.

[Sundance1220]

194. It's what they voted for

From what I'm reading here, they are losing the ONLY friends they have. I sure don't see any of the Gazan neighbors stepping up with weapons, troops or money for them. I honestly can't imagine behaving in a more destructive manner than from the comfort of their own homes, those who profess to care about their plight wasting their vote the way they did. Has anyone checked with the actual Gazans about how they feel about that?

[prodigitalson]

90. Good luck

[Cha]

111. NO you Abandon Harris IDIOTS.. you ARE ReSPONSIBLE .. Enjoy.

Link to tweet

TY

[MadameButterfly]

164. To get revenge they will cause more genocide?

How long will this feel good for them? I was sympathetic to their cause but now f'em.

[louis-t]

227. Personally, I think tsf leaked Israeli intel which showed

weaknesses in Israeli defense to Putin's boy, who then turned it over to Hamas.

[sakabatou]

5. "I didn't know the leopard would eat my face!"

[StarryNite]

53. We're going to be seeing a lot of fat leopards.

[AloeVera]

162. What anticipatory schadenfreud in this whole thread.

Disgusting.

[EX500rider]

203. When Jews vote for Hitler it's hard to feel sorry for them

[AloeVera]

205. But you see, that's just it!

For Palestinians and kin, Trump is not the Hitler-figure.

You can figure it out.

[EX500rider]

212. Well they're about to find out just how wrong they are aren't they?

Pretty short memories if they don't remember the Muslim bans Etc

[AloeVera]

218. Yes, we should blame and scoff at them for thinking it couldn't get any worse.

Instead of asking why it was allowed to get so bad or why they would think that.

Self-reflection should be a thing but alas...

[EX500rider]

226. Yes I blame everyone that helped to get mango Mussolini elected

Our very democracy might be at stake, I blame everyone who helped make that happen.

[AloeVera]

230. Sure. But we should blame some more than others is what I'm seeing.

Though they didn't actually decide the election.

It's selective blame, a great opportunity to rally the troops to your cause.

Here's a thought. Perhaps the Gaza war had an impact on the no-votes, on voter turnout, much more than the ineffective Muslim protest vote.

But I expect howls of outrage on anyone raising it. Easier to blame the Muslims.

[EX500rider]

235. Well I expect the crypto-fascist right Wingers to vote for Trump

But Muslims should know better from his last time in office- Muslim bans, he moved the embassy to Jerusalem Etc he'll give a green light to anything Netanyahu wants to do... but gosh they really showed Harris didn't they, won't come back to bite them at all said no one ever

[Sundance1220]

260. Then they're either stupid

or woefully ignorant. He just named an ambassador to Israel that thinks there is no such thing as a Palestinian. Well done.

[2naSalit]

6. No...

You played yourselves by not listening and thinking for yourself.

[Baitball Blogger]

18. It's like they were so spiteful, they shot themselves in the dick.

[MLWR]

209. It's like they were so spitefull, they shot themselves in the dick.

Yeah. Old adage: Things done in spite never turn out right.

[onecaliberal]

7. More stupidity. You could have loved to fight another day. Now fuck off with the consequences you have hoisted up us all

[PortTack]

8. We have to stand back and not rescue them. We do it every time and think they will repay us and they don't!

Basic tenants of the codependent relationship. Let them find their personal rock bottom. Once they do, they might come around. Until then, don’t help!

[atreides1]

31. I agree

In the same way we shouldn't make an effort to rescue Latinos who did the same thing that Arab-Americans did!

[LeftInTX]

65. The Latino thing is different

They voted for Trump because they liked his ideas. Same as white people. Most don't have a connection to immigrants. If they don't like his policies, they will switch in 2028. Also abortion is a major issue. A major factor is high prices. They blamed Biden. Most support Trump's immigration policies. They support Greg Abbott's tactics.

Trump will pose new challenges for immigrants. However, very few of his voters will be affected by his policies. His Latino voters don't want "Communist Venezuelans" to get a free pass, while Mexicans are not eligible for asylum. Mexicans need to either have alot of money, work visa, or cross illegally to get in the US. Yet Venezuelans are automatically admitted.

[Hekate]

71. Thanks

[Cha]

123. What ideas? Doing away with Social Security? Canceling

the Dept of Education? Revenge on Patriots? Etc Etc.. Horrifying list goes on and on.

I read the men liked his fucking Machismo.

[LeftInTX]

126. I know. This is what will bring them back to us.

People watch too.much TV and they aren't reality based.

"What?? Social Security??? You're gonna get rid of what??"

Latinos also supported GW Bush, until they didn't.

[Cha]

131. Mahalo LeftinTX.

[NickB79]

144. EVERY Trump voter will be affected by his policies!

Hello? Tariffs and mass deportations will crash the US economy.

We're all going to feel the pain when we enter another recession due to Trump's policies.

[Hassler]

146. Latino men.

[Jit423]

279. So are Cubans. We have nicely divided the Hispanic or Latinos so they will never be a threat to the RW.

Anyone who doesn't understand that is not thinking.

[nycbos]

55. Yup

Maybe they will learn if they actually suffer consequences for their actions. They never had before

[TheKentuckian]

184. Or decrease the surplus population. Either way.

[peregrinus]

215. Who?

[Think. Again.]

9. duh.

[BigMin28]

10. They helped set the place on fire

Now they are surprised to see it burn.

[Drum]

11. Is that what they call a "pyrrhic victory"?

(Victory at unsustainable cost.)

[wryter2000]

12. He isn't playing with you

He's been quite clear about what he plans to do.

[ZonkerHarris]

30. yup Trump said it out loud many times. Gaza would make great beach front property etc.

[TheKentuckian]

35. The "we got played" is a false flag. They knew upfront and were eager for it.

Political suicide bombers need to remain in the blast radius, not be helped.

Burn motherfuckers burn!

You set off the bomb!

Now reap the most biter harvest imaginable!!!

Queue Nelson...HAHA!

[wryter2000]

13. I sympathize with Gaza

But not with you.

[lees1975]

32. So do I.

And that's why I can't understand how these people could be so naive. Or stupid.

I hate to put an ethnic group into a box and judge, but it seems Arab Americans, for the most part, don't understand democracy. It's foreign to them, so when they start to feel liberty like they've never felt it before, they become demanding, thinking their voices deserve to be heard, and responded to immediately. I've seen this in other Palestinian protests. They seem to have little understanding of, or patience for, negotiation.

They were told that voting for Stein or Trump would only lead to the continued destruction of Gaza, that it would get worse, and that in vengeful retribution, Trump will denaturalize as many people in Dearborn as he can, and send them back to where they came from.

[AloeVera]

74. Yeah those ungrateful, uppity Muslims/Arabs got what's coming to them.

"Thinking their voices need to be heard....immediately".

They've been asking to stop the genocide of their people for 13 months. I don't think that was too much to ask and I don't think they displayed arrogance or entitlement in just asking.

Every comment on this thread, even ones like yours that express sympathy for Gaza, let alone the ones brimming with anticipatory schadenfreud - reveal a shocking attitude of demeaning and looking down on that ethnic group.

It should be a simple matter of putting yourself in their shoes and asking yourself what you would have done if your people, your family were being slaughtered. Would YOU support the party funding the slaughter and allowing the starvation? Could you - is that even humanly possible?

[yardwork]

83. It was too much to ask.

We could withdraw all aid from Israel, which would result in a lot of bad things. None of our allies would ever trust us again, as we abandoned an ally. Without US support, one of two things would happen. One is the complete annihilation of Israel and the deaths of millions of Israelis, including Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Jews and others. Or, Israel might decide the time has come to use their nukes.

Either option is a catastrophe on unprecedented levels. Literally a nuclear WWIII.

So yes, what the protesters demanded is unreasonable. Biden and Harris were working day and night to force a reasonable solution. Trump will not do that.

[AloeVera]

136. Even the threat of conditioning of funding was "too much to ask".

That's a far step from withdrawing all funding, yet even that bare minimum was not even tried. Come on, be real.

And all Israel would have had to do was adhere to international and humanitarian law. But that would have been too much to ask, right? So it never was.

Nothing screams Palestinian lives are cheap than that sin of omission covering up for all Israel's sins of commission.

Besides, I don't think that holding an ally to account is abandoning them. It's standing up for your own avowed values and principles. How silly of Palestinians and their kith and kin to ask.

Downright arrogant and uppity.

[yardwork]

140. Well, I guess you know better than Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

I think they know more than we know. I don't think they are supportive of genocide. I trust them to do whatever they could to stop the deaths.

[Sundance1220]

201. So Israel should adhere to all the "laws"

that YOU think are important. So tell me how you feel about the Gazan leadership continually flouting those laws, both inside and outside their borders (honor killings, throwing gays off roofs, forcing women to cover their bodies). Israel should fight with one hand tied behind their back because heaven forbid we offend hamas, hezbollah and the rest of the terrorist organizations that have been fighting to destroy Israel since 1948. I know it's inconvenient to recognize hamas was ELECTED by their people but those are the facts. I'm sure the Gazans are thrilled that people who profess to care about them have tossed them aside to "teach us a lesson" and made it so those who quite literally hate them when they give them a thought at all have the power to tell bibi to do whatever he wants. Brilliant strategy,

[AloeVera]

262. What's your point?

It's ok to kill and starve people because over a decade ago they elected bad people?

And it's the fault of their kin in America that they will continue to be killed and starved?

I'm tired of this exchange.

[Sundance1220]

267. I never said it was okay

I live in the REAL world where actions have consequences. Voting in a terrorist organization has consequences. Aiding them in housing hostages has consequences. 75 years of continually missing opportunities has consequences. Just how many do-overs do people deserve? When will they realize that the weaker party doesn't get to dictate terms. They need to realize until they get rid of hamas, sit down and negotiate with Israel - they get nothing. Until then, more will suffer, more will die - and it's ENTIRELY the fault of hamas. It appears the days of trying to get people to feel guilty for the plight of the Palestinians is over. It's hard to feel sorry for people that do nothing to help themselves.

[Sundance1220]

261. SERIOUS people don't make empty threats

just to satisfy protesters. What a ridiculous notion. I see you're having a real problem with those who have no desire to reward bad behavior (voting for a rapist). Well, too bad.

[AloeVera]

263. Lol. Nt

[prodigitalson]

97. More of a general ME thing....vengeance as a virtue, that is

not limited to Arabs...lots of Israelis and Iranians too.

Turkey, through forced self secularisation about a hundred years ago, seems to have put some distance between itself and religious fury.

[LeftInTX]

114. My family is Armenian from Turkey

Christians engaged in this too. Probably from lack of infrastructure and clan based governance more than anything. No one trusted no one because there just wasn't a functional government. I guess you could compare it to Librtarianism

[prodigitalson]

133. Absolutely, regarding ME Christians...see Lebanese militias

As you are Armenian, my apologies if I was too congratulatry of the Turks.

[LeftInTX]

159. I can tell you Armenian on Armenian crime was real

What are they gonna do?
Great aunt killed by neighbor kid. (Great aunt was a toddler)
2ggf swindled out of his property
3ggf told to go down a hole to get gold. He dies.
No one can do anything, except take matters into their own hands. Turkish cops won't do anything

That was only one side! All this just breeds more clannish behavior and endogamy. (Trust no one and marry your relatives)

[wryter2000]

113. I would vote for the person

Who at least was trying to make things better. Not the one who was going to surrender unconditionally to Netanyahu.

[AloeVera]

142. I would too - if I believed that.

Therein lies the rub. Muslims/Arabs lost trust after 13 months of watching and learning. I can't blame them, though I know many do. It's their lived experience, not ours.

[wryter2000]

148. As I recall

Local Imams endorsed Harris.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/kamala-harris/muslim-faith-leaders-endorse-kamala-harris-rcna174190

[julmur]

116. Gaza

So disagree, this not on the democrats, funding and allowing the war & starvation, Israel is and has always been an American ally. Both parties supported Israel. Blame need to be put on Hamas that started this atrocity. If anything, the republicans used everyone

[LeftInTX]

118. So they vote for something worse..got it

Or it is Gaza not as important to them as "making a statement" ?

[AloeVera]

147. Judge not...

Your question implies that the motive is vengeance as opposed to a desire to see the end of Gaza's suffering. Do you consider all protest votes vengeful or just those of this ethnic/religious group?

Was the vote irrational and self-defeating? Largely. Did it cost the election? I haven't seen proof that it has. But to us, their vote is so infuriating that we are allowing fantasies of worse retribution that verges on schadenfreud - to let off steam. Turning our backs on our own values in the process. I find that almost as intolerable as what I have witnessed in Gaza.

But we can't know what it's like to have your people's lives be considered cheap and worth less than that of others. It must be pure anguish to watch that being played out and know that your country could stop it and, from your perspective, refuses to do so.

Reason, logic and self-interest fall to the wayside in those circumstances. Talk of parking lots, WWIII, FAFO and scary Trump are not going to penetrate when you think the worst has already happened and you are treated like second-class citizens anyway. Your voice and need to be heard and responded to is ignored.

Their lived experience, not ours. So I try not to judge, nor will I have satisfaction when even worse befalls them. It's an awful tragedy and it should not have been allowed to happen. And yes, there are consequences to that too.

[wryter2000]

150. They said

They wanted to punish Democrats.

Would you support Evangelical Christians doing something this?

[LeftInTX]

156. So you think the Democrats are the party of genocide?

Most of them are Lebanese, not Palestinian.

Is your family from the ME? Mine came from Turkey. I can tell you this is how it is. The Arab-Israelis did thus to punish Shimon Peres in 1996. Guess who they got? Bibi for 30 years.
Don't give me that sob story. They know what they are doing. They have done it before. Iraqis also boycott elections with bad results. People who aren't facing genocide do it "punish people". It goes nowhere and it gets crappy people elected.

[AloeVera]

161. I see.

"Sob stories".

I'll be sure not to try to widen your perspective in future. Your views about "them" are baked-in.

[calilama]

214. Elections have consequences

elections have consequences...that's Democracy 101..Arab Americans sold Gaza down the river.....they did more to defeat Hamas and derail a two state solution than the "genocidial Dems" could have possibly imagined....80% of Jews voted for Harris..their decades long social justice bond with Black Americans drove that....plenty of Black folks feel betrayed by what happened in the Free Palestine movement....the dumbest man on the planet, DJT, played their hatred right into a dictatorship.....wtf

[Beastly Boy]

167. Many Americans will be hurting as a consequence of their vote.

This will include both those whose motives was vengeance as well as those having a desire to see the end of Gaza's suffering.

And millions more who will be suffering because of not Gaza. It wasn't just self-defeating, it was defeating to additional millions far closer to home.

Understandably, many people are pissed at their in-your-face act of contempt for their fellow citizens. Schadenfreude is a rather befitting reaction from those who are about to experience massive suffering because of their narrow-mindedness, whatever you choose to attribute it to.

[Scrivener7]

158. Well, they showed us.

[UpInArms]

173. Maybe ... just maybe

Netenyahu and TFG were working together to not do anything positive …
Ya think?

So why put in what is killing you?

To hard to comprehend the deal … just like poppy bush made for Raygun …

So sorry that doing the right thing is so hard.

[AloeVera]

191. A few facts for the fact-deprived/averse.

The Muslim vote did not cost us the election.

The majority voted for Stein, not Trump.

It was not Trump who made the UN Ambassador veto three (?) ceasefire proposals at the UN, refused to put conditions on US funding despite Israel flouting of all laws of war and humanity, let red lines disappear under bloody mangled bodies and on and on and on. Perhaps you have not been following events closely.

I do think Trump and Bibi have been in cahoots since their meeting in July and hence no ceasefire and the war-mongering. By then, though, Gaza was rubble and its children destroyed by malnutrition, disease and trauma.

Evil was done under our noses, and with our weapons. That had consequences.

Blaming the ineffective Muslim protest vote is just more of head-meet-sand with a good dose of Muslim-bashing thrown in for good measure.

[UpInArms]

210. Cool

Vote for Jill stein

[TheKentuckian]

186. If the thought was that in return for helping Chump to the throne

that we would come with bent knee and then protect Palestine to our contrite last, you probably should have asked because the actual response is your order has arrived, enjoy.

What possible alternative outcome was anticipated?

[Sundance1220]

198. Have any of you asked actual Gazans

how they feel about being asked to continue to suffer while well fed, roof over their head Americans "teach us a lesson"? Because from my standpoint, you don't care about them any more than anyone else seems to.

[AloeVera]

202. Glass houses.

I've been fighting to end the war for over a year now. If you had been here, you would know.

I would not use the word "care" when it comes to Palestinians, I don't think they've felt very cared for since 1948 or before, but especially in the last 13 months.

Perhaps you've cared, and worked diligently for decades to try to end their suffering.

If not, then insert the saying about glass houses here.

[Sundance1220]

206. Spare me the talk about 1948

when they could have had a state and went to war instead. Perhaps they thought those same countries would come to their aid now but nope - I don't see one of their neighbors sending money, arms or troops, do you? Why is that? Have you bothered to ask yourself that? The only people hitting the streets are people in the West and I hardly see any of them anymore and after this stunt, you will see far less. They have burned even more bridges. I frankly, in my 64 years on this planet seen a more self destructive group than the Palestinians. And why? Because they listen to people who just tell them to suffer a little longer and surely the world will come to their aid and rid them of those pesky Jews. And what has THAT gotten them? Just look at the conditions in Gaza to see the answer to that. Many people have started wondering why help people who do nothing to help themselves.

[AloeVera]

208. I don't see any other people expected to quietly acquiesce to donate/gift out of the goodness of their hearts,

Over half their land to recently arrived immigrants. Perhaps we should try that here and see what happens. Maybe burn a few hundred native villages, launch a few dozen massacres and take possession of the homes and lands they fled. Then claim to be the victims when their kin come to their aid.

Not gonna argue the history of the Nakba beyond this. Everyone has access to a good library.

The neighbours don't come to their aid now? Yes, a favoured way to throw shade in the never-ending quest to belittle, demonize and blame. Ignoring the reality of geopolitics and the kow-towing to the U.S. by the despots in the region who do not represent the views of their people. Nothing new. But hey, even bone-saw MBS is now saying Israel is committing genocide so that's something.

"Many people have started wondering..." I think they have indeed started wondering about things they were blind to before, but not the things you think.

Have a good day.

[Sundance1220]

211. So I'll put you in the category of those

who think the Palestinians should suffer more, never sit at the negotiating table, never recognize they're the weaker party who will get NOTHING without negotiating and sooner or later the soft headed kids buying hamas scarves on Amazon and protesting will be able to deliver them a state. Wow

And Saudi Arabia is STILL working with Israel, doing business with Israel and looking for a way to do that publicly the way the gulf nations now are (along with Egypt and Jordan) while tossing a few WORDS (no actions) your way to continue to keep their own people from getting out of hand. It's failed for over 75 years but any day now......And this is the stupidity you want the left to have sympathy for.

You want an end to the war? Tell hamas to release ALL the hostages, lay down their arms, give up power and allow elections. The days of Israel continuing to allow hamas, hezbollah and ij to continue lobbing rockets and missiles into Israel are over. Only one side is going to come out victorious here and I'll be putting my money on the one with money, education and nukes.

[LeftInTX]

89. They learned those tactics over there

That's one reason the ME is f'dd up. I'm sure they understand Democrscy because they are US citizens.
They tried the jerk (send a message) route. Maybe they were convinced Ksmala would win? They were warned that Democracy was on the line.

The Arab Israelis did this and instead of Peres, they got Bibi. That was 30 years ago. They wanted to give Peres a lesson, so they get Bibi for 30 years.

[TheKentuckian]

38. Why? Same same is the Death to Israel and Death to America cult.

Kushner Arms has no population, it has guests and employees.

[magicarpet]

132. Not only just Gaza,... they have much bigger plans to cleanse,..

... the West Bank of each/every/all Palestinians. Then allow Jewish Settlers to confiscate all the Palestinian land - many held as family homesteads for centuries.

Djt and Huckabee will cheerfully condone and enthusiastically green light the Jewish taking of West Bank lands.

[RockRaven]

14. Whatever TCF does to you and your families, you did to yourself.

[Keepthesoulalive]

16. You played yourselves

He showed you the first time The second time is on you.

[calimary]

141. I can see the bumper stickers popping up soon.

“Don’t Blame Me. I Voted for Kamala “

I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re close to or already in production.

[JT45242]

17. the military will not be sending them to gitmo, they will kill them all given Huckabee's take

There are no palestinians.... That's what he said.

Remember that people like Pompeo, Pence, and Huckabee are end timers and are hoping that the felon will strat WW3 and bring on the rapture sooner.

They literally want us all to die so that they think they will go to heaven. They are going to be disappointed

[Crowman2009]

207. They'll especially be disappointed when their rapture doesn't go as planned, and they wind up in extreme pain.

Because right-wingnuts have a bad habit of learning the hard way when it's too damn late.

[Vinca]

19. Stevie Wonder could see this one coming.

[Raven123]

20. Might want to contact Congresswoman Tlaib

Last edited Wed Nov 13, 2024, 06:06 PM - Edit history (1)

She was (probably still is) an outspoken opponent of Biden’s actions concerning Gaza. She apparently did much better than Harris among voters in Dearborn.

Maybe she can explain

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/02/rashida-tlaib-decline-endorsement-kamala-harris

[republianmushroom]

21. Damn, live and learn.

[mcar]

22. And they knew this before the election

no sympathy, no empathy.

[Basso8vb]

23. Congrats, now you're just as fucked as the rest of us.

No sympathy.

[meow2u3]

24. We tried to warn you, but you didn't listen

Dearborn was too busy consuming russkie propaganda depicting Biden and Harris as the genocidal maniacs Trump and Netanyahu are. We tried to tell them it was patently false, but they voted with their emotions warped by propaganda. Now they're going to pay the price dearly.

Genocide who?

[EllieBC]

25. They can GTFO with their buyers remorse.

They did not give a shit about voters rights, women, LGBTQ, the elderly who are about to lose their social security, they didn’t worry about kids… So fuck them I’m not going to worry about them. I don’t care what happens to them they made their bed they can now enjoy lying in it.

Because the rest of us now have to worry about those other groups and help support them. I’m not supporting anyone who helped contribute to this bullshit.

[RJ_MacReady]

26. oh well

No sympathy here.

[FirstLight]

27. my new response to anyone who voted to shoot themselves in the face:

"Thoughts & Prayers"


fucknuts deserve everything they get

[TheKentuckian]

152. I feel that in two weeks I may have a concept of thoughts and prayers.

Or maybe for Tots and Pears?

We will see.

[ZonkerHarris]

28. No fucks to give for them. Suckers and fools. "We wanted to punish the Democrats." Now Gaza will be reduced to rubble

plowed over and Trump and Bibi will build ocean front resorts and golf courses there.

Dearborn voters got what they wanted though.
I definitively feel punished.
So punished I will not lift a finger to help their causes in the future.
I know better now.

[AloeVera]

37. "Now Gaza will be reduced to rubble".

Oh boy.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

115. What do you think Trump's policies will be?

I think he’ll back Israel and Netanyahu 100%. At least Biden/ Harris was attempting to negotiate some kind of a solution.

[bdamomma]

135. This

is the felon's way and Netanyahu way to stay out of prison, they wouldn't give them (the Palestinians) a second thought. Huckabee is another White Christian Nationalist.

[lapfog_1]

178. did you not hear trump tell bibi to "finish the job"?

now the Israelis are telling the people of Gaza they cannot return ever to northern Gaza and at least a few members of the cabinet in Israel are saying it is time to confiscate land in the West Bank

the people in Gaza are still starving to death, slowly. this will continue until they are all gone.

[Greybnk48]

29. Too little too late. Fuck them. They will be example to others. n/t

[aeromanKC]

33. There will be no Gaza after Trump and Netenyahoo.

Gaza will make great beach front property for the 1%. Guaranteed Trump profits.

[AloeVera]

242. There is no more Gaza now, but whatever...

There would have been settlers and beachfront properties anyway, Trump or no Trump. It's what this "war" of annihilation and genocide was all about. Oh and retribution and schadenfreud, which seems not unique to Israel sadly.

[Srkdqltr]

34. There will be peace but Gaza will be gone. They were warned and choose to believe Trump.

[Clouds Passing]

36. They get pleasure out of being lied to, bottom line.

[nycbos]

39. I am Jewish.

I marched against the Muslim ban because I couldn't imagine anything more repugnant to the ideals of this nation. I marched against the wall because I believe no human being is illegal. I went to the women's march because women's rights are human rights. I attend the pride parade because gay rights are human rights. I marched for Eric Gardner, Michael Brown, George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and several others, because black lives matter.


When the largest massacre of Jews since the holocaust occurred on October 7, these people took to the streets to celebrate. So my message to them, is live with the consequences of your actions. FAFO

[yardwork]

42. I don't blame you for feeling that way.

The really frustrating thing is that the Muslim U.S. citizens who helped elect Trump won't suffer at all. They aren't trying to live in Gaza. They won't be deported; they're citizens. They will keep their businesses and benefit from Trump's tax cuts.

If they, personally, were going to suffer they wouldn't have let Trump be elected. It was all theater. Same with all the privileged white lefties who are celebrating because they stuck it to the Democrats. They will suffer far less than most people from Trump's actions.

Again, if these educated, privileged mostly-white people had really been at risk for suffering, they wouldn't have helped elect Trump.

This was a performative, virtue-signaling temper tantrum fueled by Russian propaganda.

[nycbos]

46. Yup

White leftists won't actually, suffer any consequences.

[atreides1]

54. Are you sure

That these Arab-Americans won't be on the next list to be deported?

Roosevelt did it with Japanese Americans and got away with it, even the courts supported his decision!

And the current courts are already in Trump's pocket...those Arab-Americans knew what they were doing, because they felt slighted, or this from the piece: "All she(Harris) had to do was stop the war in Lebanon and Gaza and she would receive everyone's votes here," Dearborn's Democratic mayor, Abdullah Hammoud, told the Associated Press."

I have to wonder how Harris, as Vice President, was going to stop the war?

In an interview with Politico, Michael Sareini, Dearborn city council president, added that many Arab American residents in Dearborn "feel like they've been redeemed."

"They wanted to send a message and they did. This stance on endless wars and killing of innocent women and children has got to end," he said.

Trump made clear that he was going to allow Netanyahu to continue until Israel was satisfied with the outcome.

Please don't say that they didn't know what was going happen, Trump was clear.

[nycbos]

66. Maybe Harris looked at her Jewish family...

... and saw these people support both Hamas and Hezbollah and thought I don't want anything to do with them.

Their reaction to October 7 was to celebrate. They don't think to tell Lebanon to stop harboring a terrorist organization within their borders.

[yardwork]

75. I don't think that Trump will deport wealthy citizens who voted for him!

It's part of white Americans' blind spot that we view certain immigrants as helpless people deserving of pity. It's condescending, and it's wrong.

Many Arab Muslim Americans have been U.S. citizens for generations. They own businesses. They're doctors, lawyers, engineers. They are affluent, privileged, just like wealthy white citizens. There's no particular reason to assume that they are Democrats. They are not going to be deported. Trump got their votes.

The same is true of many Hispanic citizens. Again, their families have been here for generations. If they're voters, then they are citizens. They aren't refugees. Trump promises to deport undocumented workers. Many Hispanic citizens have little to nothing in common with undocumented workers, and they're insulted at the suggestion that they do.

We need to recognize that privileged people do privileged things, and stop being surprised that privileged non-white or Hispanic Americans do the same things that privileged white Americans do. Notably, this includes voting Republican.

[palinny]

119. Well, in case you didn't know

Stephen Miller plans to "denaturalize" and deport, which he calls "remigration," Muslim, Indian, Hispanic, and African naturalized citizens (even if they say they voted for Trump). He also plans to deport, no matter their ethnicity/country of origin, highly educated, wealthy Silicon Valley tech CEOs and other high level tech workers no matter what type of visa they used to enter the country for such employment, and yes, the tech companies will scream and holler in protest, likely to no avail. A Google search will bring up these plans.

[yardwork]

127. I know what Miller is saying.

It's a lot of bluffing, red meat for the racist MAGATs.

What will happen is what always happens - the Republicans will punch down, abusing marginalized people who have little power. They will separate families and inflict pain.

They will not hurt affluent, privileged people, except to the extent that all of us suffer from living in an unfair, abusive society.

Democrats seeking revenge will not find it here.

[LeftInTX]

121. Exactly

[julmur]

129. Arab Americans

Most wealthy Arab Americans are republicans, they never had any intention of voting for democrats, it was all political theater

[LeftInTX]

98. US citizens aren't going anywhere

Most of the "uncommitted" are Lebanese or people who support Palestinians. Unless there is a 911 type attack, I picture "business as usual". It's the Palestinians in Gaza and the WB who will pay the price.

[irisblue]

69. The US Govt did deport citizens & locked up citizens in our past.

There are now for profit prisons as well.

1.
https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/japanese-american-relocation



The images in these articles are horrible.


2.From the World History Forum

The Deportation Campaigns of the Great Depression. It has happened here
Source-https://www.history.com/news/great-depression-repatriation-drives-mexico-deportation
Subtitle- Up to 1.8 million people of Mexican descent—most of them American-born—were rounded up in informal raids


snip-"The Deportation Campaigns of the Great DepressionThese were part of the “repatriation drives,” a series of informal raids that took place around the United States during the Great Depression. Local governments and officials deported up to 1.8 million people to Mexico, according to research conducted by former California State Senator Joseph Dunn, who in 2004 investigated the deportations under President Herbert Hoover. Dunn estimates around 60 percent of these people were actually American citizens, many of them born in the United States to first-generation immigrants.
Snip-These were part of the “repatriation drives,” a series of informal raids that took place around the United States during the Great Depression. Local governments and officials deported up to 1.8 million people to Mexico, according to research conducted by former California State Senator Joseph Dunn, who in 2004 investigated the deportations under President Herbert Hoover. Dunn estimates around 60 percent of these people were actually American citizens, many of them born in the United States to first-generation immigrants."

more there.

[LeftInTX]

110. That was a long time ago.

The deportations were not formal deportations. They just loaded everyone up and sent them to MX. The border was very porous. Now MX requires passports and will refuse deportees who are not Mexican citizens.

This actually happened to someone I knew.
"Mom, dad. I'm over in Chihuahua MX."
"Get home right now. What kind of trouble did you get yourself into?"

[irisblue]

117. History may not repeat exactly, but it echoes

[TheKentuckian]

236. We may be able to fix that. They have businesses to divest from and can hammer away at them

to make life miserable.

Islamophobia is pretty easy to powderkeg in this country.

[David Boyle]

177. Not all Arab-Americans are bad or thoughtless, I hope you know

Many of them, or most, are fine people. Just saying.

[TheKentuckian]

237. My daughter and I were not given any such consideration

when they nuked us.

[David Boyle]

271. My sympathies

for anything you suffered.

[TheKentuckian]

274. And mine for what is coming down the tracks for you.

The blast radius probably will catch us all.

[Blue for the win]

40. Zero f**ks

As the saying goes "You made your bed now lay in it"
I have no sympathy whatsoever for them their family and friends will now suffer the consequences in Israel now. They are ultimately to blame. Good job ROFL

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

41. Trump wasn't playing them. Rashida Tlaib started this nonsense.

As a protest about Gaza, she wanted people to vote "uncommitted" in the Dem primary (the only primary that matters in this district). As the general election approached, she declined to support the Democratic candidate for president.

So, Jill Stein got a big slice of the votes from the Muslim population.

Way to go, Rashid.

[orwell]

43. All of this...

...was engineered by Putin.

It was Putin that was behind the Hamas attacks, both directly and by proxy through Iran.

Netanyahu wanted Biden out. He clearly had a tacit agreement with the rapist. That is why he prolonged the response, not only to cause as much destruction as he could, but to create the mother of all wedge issues for the Biden Administration during an election year.

Then the Putler online operation kicked into high gear to organize the campus protests which really turned the younger voter against Biden/Harris and conveyed an atmosphere of incompetency and failure when Biden/Harris needed the opposite.

It was brilliant. And it worked.

Checkmate...

[MagickMuffin]

44. Punishment Politics is indeed a slippery slope

But you chose who you wanted even though you KNEW what he meant, but punishment politics was way more important to you than continuing to live in freedom. Now you’ll be targets. I guess it was worth it to you.

[SoFlaBro]

45. I don't want to hear any of that fuck shit the Hamas lovers are talking about. They hurt Dem chances so fuck 'em.

[33taw]

50. They also hurt their own. How stupid.

[bronxiteforever]

47. Oh well

[Blue_Tires]

48. They can chew on it...

They knew damn well what they were voting for...

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

49. Well that didn't take long

[krawhitham]

51. Duh, Just how dumb is the average voter?

[Zambero]

176. Half of the voters are even dumber

which mathematically explains the election results.

[Hope22]

52. No seriously he was telling you all along.

You simply refused to listen. You could have had a compassionate president who genuinely cares for people and our country. We all could have but no! Your right to vote superseded your responsibility to educate yourself on the candidate!

[patphil]

56. I thought Trump's position on the middle east conflict was pretty clear.

He hates Arabs, and will support Netanyahu. He won't lift a finger to protect Gaza or the West Bank from Israeli attacks, and won't try to block any annexation of those territories into Israel.
Trump sees a strong Israel as good policy.
He did what he does best, that is, he suckered a bunch of uninformed people into supporting him by telling them what they want to hear, while not having any actual intent to deliver. He personally had nothing to lose by doing this, and a lot to gain.
And it worked.

[cloudbase]

57. Well, that contradicts the old saying about there being no

educational value in the second kick from a mule.

Two may not be enough.

[Skittles]

58. you have to wonder just how fucking stupid they are

TRUMP IS FUCKING CON MAN - WAKE THE FUCK UP

[Abstractartist]

59. Sorry

I have zero sympathy for you or ANY SHITSTAIN that voted for trump, democrat or not. You think you are suffering now, just wait when your immigration deportation plane lands in Afghanistan or Palestine. You think trump is going to help the people in Gaza? You think by protest voting for Stein, that’s going to save the war torn families there?

You better hope and seriously step up the GOTV for the midterm elections in 2 years, because you and many others have very little future if we can get some aspect of this government back in democrat hands.

[SunSeeker]

60. FAFO award winners.

Or should I say whiners...

[beaglelover]

61. These idiots need to fuck all the way off!

[dchill]

62. They fucked around - now we're all finding out.

[IzzaNuDay]

64. Abandon Biden/Harris: You got your wish.

Y’all were either too young or not paying attention to what the dotard was doing 2016-2021. Starting with that Muslim country ban within one week after the dotard’s first inauguration.

Also, you failed to recognize that third parties in the US are not the flex you think they are. Until these parties make a significant effort to lead at all government levels, starting at the local level, they are NOISE when it comes to a presidential election.

Anyway, now that Harris will not be POTUS and that dotard is elected— let’s talk about Gaza. The dotard is in bed with Netanyahu, did you pay attention to this?

After Jan 20, 2025, when feces hits the fan in Gaza again, the dotard isn’t going to save them. And you can’t ask Harris to intervene, she will not be in any political position to help.

Y’all got what you asked for. So go pound sand.

[MineralMan]

67. Duh...

[flying-skeleton]

68. Classic case of

F Around And Find Out.

[Orrex]

70. Add them to the list of people who can go fuck themselves

The time for this introspection and soul-searching was two weeks ago, you ignorant, short-sighted fucks.

[LudwigPastorius]

72. Google AI:

The Arabic translation for the informal American English term "derp" is "هذا غباء!" which means "this is foolish!"

[sarge43]

73. "First they came for .... "

Pack your bags Dearborn residents ... if you're allowed carry on, but don't bet on it.
I will sympathize for your children.

[Paladin]

76. Yeah, well. Boo-fucking-hoo, and thanks for nothing. (nt)

[Dem4life1234]

78. Bunch of damn toddlers

Grown ass folks acting like pouty toddlers.
Out of fucks to give die these idiots who did that.

[3Hotdogs]

80. Oh, and do the latinos who voted for Trump actually believe it is just illegal immigrants that Maggots don't like?

It ain't just the Jews "replacing us."

[LetMyPeopleVote]

81. These idiots are fools to vote for trump and now they are getting what they deserved

This letter is so sad that it made me smile. trump is giving Bibi the greenlight to carpet bomb Gaza and to annex both Gaza and the West Bank

Link to tweet

[Cha]

128. TY for this... Dearborn Muslims Are Responsible

For No Ceasefire in Gaza.

[IzzaNuDay]

213. The height of stupidity-MENA America!

Talk about a group of people easily duped!

Addressing the letter to the dotard at the White House on November 8!

Thought he had immediate power
Got suckered into believing the dotard promising a ceasefire the day after the US election, only to discover, it doesn’t quite work that way!

I want to think this is a letter from the Onion instead! But this group fell for the dotard’s bullshit, hook, line and sinker!

Leopards, here’s some fresh face meat!

[Crunchy Frog]

82. It's a little bit late to figure out that you're being played.

I guess they can sit back and watch their handiwork unfold on the Palestinian people.

[Mountainguy]

84. Arabs voting for trump to ounish democrats is like

Your neighbor burning their house down so that you have to smell the smoke.


Bad for everyone, but o e party is going to be way more impacted than the other.

[ffr]

85. A single issue block of voters who fucked us all!

Good job! We warned against the all or nothing scenario when picking a candidate, you fools!

And Jill Stein is nothing more than a spoiler candidate. Anybody wasting their vote on her is simply too stupid and shouldn't be allowed a voice at the voting booth.

[Happy Hoosier]

86. ...

[sdfernando]

87. These have to be the stupidest fucking MOFOS on the planet

...no strike that...in the universe!

[Beck23]

88. Some Americans are sleep walkers

For decades things have rolled along peacefully with people collecting benefits and protections provided by the government. I'm afraid a lot has been taken for granted. Like the poster said, they fked around and now they are about to find out.

[MustLoveBeagles]

91. FAFO

By your stupid actions you've guaranteed the slaughter of Palestinians in Gaza. Remember them? The people you claim to care about? Or was the real point to hate on Jews? You've lost all credibility.

[phylny]

92. Sure, because his Muslim ban

wasn’t quite clear enough for everyone.

[kansasobama]

93. Many use us Dems and then fuck us

We have to end it. Suffer and find the truth.

[JPPaverage]

94. My parents used to tell me to think first

And act only after thinking. The people who are having buyers remorse should have followed that advice.

[LW1977]

95. PSGWSP

Laughing really hard at you, Dearborn!

[BamaRefugee]

96. Might be a good time to start looking for some very low priced houses in the area

[Center Left]

99. Womp womp...

I don’t feel bad for any minority that voted for him

[Cha]

100. No Fucking Shite, Sherlocks! We WARNED you!!

[berksdem]

101. Too bad...

you done fucked around and you're about to find out. Best of luck...

[moonshinegnomie]

102. fuck em

if they voted for the orange thug i dont give a rats ass about them at all. zero sympathy for them. i want them to suffer for their actions

[struggle4progress]

103. It's a heartache

[wolfie001]

104. My opinion is they want to live in a Caliphate

In their community it all makes sense and outside their community they might as well be living on another planet. Religious indoctrination just like any christian cult/religious sect.

[NBachers]

105. Chestnuts roasting on an open fire; jack boots ripping at my nose; I voted for Trump and the Nazi Empire . . .

Won’t someone please listen to my woes??

[Johnny2X2X]

106. They got taken for a ride

And I believe the whole movement was funded by the Right and their leaders took bribes to try to get them to vote for Trump.

The whole thing was a psy-op to co-opt a peace movement to help get Trump elected.

[Ysabel]

108. Wtf?

Stupid - grrrrrrr...

[pfitz59]

109. All these Pro-Israel, pro-settlement Evangelicals

lining up for Trump bodes ill for Muslim and Palestinian Americans. The bought into his lies. Their families will pay the price

[Uncle Joe]

112. If one is truly against ethnic cleansing and genocide,

then it doesn't make any difference how someone else voted or didn't vote.

The Palestinian people in Gaza are still suffering a murderous catastrophe and deserve our sympathy and support.

If your family and friends are being murdered and buried alive under tons of rubble, whether the bombs were sent by an elephant or donkey won't make any difference to you.

The only thing that separates us are our words and actions.

[thebigidea]

124. I'd rather support my family. I don't have the resources to spare.

Maybe Marco Rubio will bring peace to the Middle East. Try asking him for sympathy and support.

[Uncle Joe]

137. Rubio can't give what he doesn't have,

and I see no reason to emulate him.

[TheKentuckian]

154. They can end their attacks, release the hostages, surrender, and beg for mercy at this point

Otherwise, I chalk it as a suicide.

They also fucked around and are finding out.

Time to surrender.

[Uncle Joe]

160. Who is they? The Palestinians in Gaza have no government, and almost half the population is under 17.

Israel got the largest number of hostages released during a ceasefire, and Netanyahu has assassinated the leadership of Hamas including the top negotiator of Hamas for a ceasefire/peace agreement and release of the Israeli hostages.

Hamas was enabled to power in the first place, and allowed to thrive by Netanyahu as a counter to the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank.

Netanyahu feared democracy from breaking out every bit as much as MBS did after the Arab Spring.

The oligarchs of the world covet Palestinian land so Netanyahu's long time family friend and *rump's shadow diplomat Jared Kushner worked out a deal that eliminated the Palestinians from any consideration putting a pressure cooker on the stove and walking away from it, and waiting for it to explode.

I call it planned *ethnic cleansing/genocide.

*That's such a clean sounding phrase for mass murder and theft, it's almost Orwellian.

[TheKentuckian]

181. I don't give a runny fuck. Good fucking riddance

Decades of attacks on Israel and now America was politically nuked in the name of the lie of a phony ass, genocidal protest rabble.

Even now there is possiblity of releasing the hostages whole and surrender, take it or I chalk it suicide.

You got your Orange God Emperor may he have mercy on their shitty shades.

Miss me with this bullshit.

[Uncle Joe]

185. That sounds like *rump, Kushner and Netanyahu's position as well.

There is no upside for the Palestinian people and there never was, perhaps that's why they're ambivalent at best regarding American politics.

Gaza was always a colonial project, just like the West Bank; which is nothing but a bunch small Palestinian land islands surrounded by ever encroaching illegal Israeli settlements.

At least Kushner; will finally be able to invest the majority of journalist chopping MBS' Saudi trust money. That near 3 billion dollars which he received from foreign oligarchs within months of leaving his daddy in law's White House should be put to good use and Gaza will have valuable investment opportunities once the ethnic cleansing and genocide are complete.

[TheKentuckian]

187. What it sounds like is their order is on the way!

"Vote for Stein, vote for Trump, stay home but whatever you do do not vote for Kamala Harris".

Don't fucking dare whine now, this was the desire and I'm happy their wish is coming true.

[TheKentuckian]

238. No government is a lie. Hamas is their government.

No hostages should have been taken and the reward for taking them is well earned obliteration not being rewarded with bargaining chips.

[Uncle Joe]

244. There has been no election in Gaza since George W. Bush was in power.

Hamas; which Netanyahu enabled to power has the weapons, and almost half the population is 17 or under. They weren't even alive when Netanyahu enabled Hamas to power. They were born and grew up in the world's largest outdoor prison with Hamas acting as the inside guards and the IDF on the outside.

You're talking about "oblierating" 2.3 million Palestinians, mostly women and chidren (that's genocide) because the terrorist organization Hamas; estimated at 25,000 dominates them and enabled by Netanyahu committed a terrorist act on October 7th of which he responded at about the same pace as *rump did on January 6th. Its almost as if Netanyahu knew it was going to happen.

[TheKentuckian]

249. Having a government doesn't require any elections. Look around the middle east for proof.

The rest is also CT and excuses.

[Uncle Joe]

252. The ultimate excuse is using the terrorist attack of October 7th

to commit ethnic cleansing/genocide against the Palestinian people.

There is nothing CT about it, the evidence is overwhelming.

[TheKentuckian]

254. Jimmy crack corn, sir. The order is on the way!

[Sundance1220]

266. They DO have a government

I know that those like you like to pretend otherwise but REALITY is that hamas was elected. That they haven't allowed other elections is nobody's fault but the Palestinians that refuse to uprise and foster a revolution like downtrodden people have done throughout history. Where are THOSE protesters? It seems they expect everyone else to take care of them. Well, nobody is rushing to their side, their neighbors are sick to death of sending money only to have the government of hamas steal it and try and place their people's misery on Israel. Nobody is buying it any longer. As far as the idiot students that bought scarfs on amazon and thought that was action, the very minute they started harassing AMERICAN Jews, they lost most people's sympathy. They have nobody to blame but themselves for trying to teach anybody a lesson. They effed around and now they'll find out.

[Uncle Joe]

268. The Palestinians in Gaza have no functioning government and their top leaders including the one

negotiating for a cease fire/peace agreement have been assassinated.

There is no excuse for ethnic cleansing or genocide, that's what Israel is doing and the world knows it.

[Sundance1220]

269. They have the government they voted for

WTF did they expect from terrorists? You see, this has been their problem for the last 75 years. They lay down and follow the orders of anyone who tells them to suffer a little longer and the pesky Jews will somehow magically disappear. Well, this is what they've gotten, poverty, misery and war. And they will NEVER get anything else until they realize they are the weaker party, sit down and negotiate a settlement and stop waiting for the world to take care of them. NOBODY cares about them enough to send them arms, troops or money (that will only get stolen by their leaders for more weapons). Who do you see running to their side? Some soft headed college students buying ridiculous scarfs on Amazon and attacking AMERICAN Jews - that's what the world sees. You confuse loud and obnoxious with real support. You'll learn.

[Uncle Joe]

270. Hamas is the terrorist organization that Israel enabled and funded to overlord the Palestinian people

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

Israeli support for Hamas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas

How Israel Secretly Propped Up Hamas

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html

We elected George W. Bush in 2004 but he's not recognized as the head of our government anymore because we didn't have a foreign power propping him up to be a dictator over us. The same can't be said for the Palestinian people in Gaza, Hamas was a tool of Netanyahu and they had the guns financed by Israel's government to dominate the Palestinians.

Israel wasn't funding the Palestinian people in Gaza or trying to lift them up, they were funding a terrorist organization to act as inside guards in the world's largest open air prison.

It's no wonder that the day after our election Netanyahu fired his defense minister; who had been calling for an investigation of October 7th.

You can cover your ears and eyes all you want, but this is ethnic cleansing/genocide.

[Sundance1220]

272. LOL - THEY WERE ELECTED

and yet you still can't help but blame Israel. You're just another who treats the Palestinians like children. Expecting nothing of them, allowing them to throw temper tantrums and then blame others and expect everyone to clean up their mess. You may have noticed that NOBODY is coming to their defense - none of the Arab countries want any part of them. But you go ahead and blame anyone but the terrorist organization THEY ELECTED. Your way has worked wonders for the last 75 years. Just let them suffer longer and more and surely those pesky Jews will magically disappear. They are the weaker party and until you and them understand that, they will continue to live in misery. And Israel will continue to thrive.

[Uncle Joe]

273. So was George W. Bush, but China didn't keep him in power to dominate over us,

not to mention that we're all children.

What do you mean no one is coming to the Palestinian people's defense?

The vast majority of all the world's nations and peoples in the United Nations; which was created after World War II have come to their defense. We're the only nation standing with Israel by using our veto power, that's it.

Are you expecting Arab nations to wage war against Israel because Netanyahu's government loves it and is provoking them by expanding the conflict?

"Pride goeth before destruction, And a haughty spirit before a fall. Better it is to be of a lowly spirit with the poor, Than to divide the spoil with the proud."

Proverbs 16:18-19

The defense of ethnic cleansing/genocide does nothing for the Jewish people around the world and actually fosters anti-Semitism.

[Sundance1220]

275. Have they sent troops, money, weapons?

Nope - nothing but clucking their tongues and doing NOTHING for the Palestinians. And for those who cast their "protest vote", here are some of the things the upcoming Secy of Defense has to say:

Pete Hegseth argued in his 2020 book that Christians should unite in a “crusade” against Muslims entering the United States to protect “Judeo-Christian” values, according to a new report on his past writings.

According to the Washington Post, Hegseth in his 2020 book “American Crusade” ranted about the dangers of increasing Muslim birth rates and claimed migrants leech off of social programs supported by the government. He also said Islam “is not a religion of peace, and it never has been” and that “all modern Muslim countries are either formal or de facto no-go zones for practicing Christians and Jews.”

Though insulated by distance and its “traditional Christian fabric,” the United States, Hegseth writes, is under a cultural invasion “not just at our shore, it’s in your community and schools.” In November 2019, his book states, 26 Muslim candidates won elected office in the country, and “Muhammad is now a top ten boys’ name in America.”

“Our present moment is much like the 11th Century. We don’t want to fight, but, like our fellow Christians one thousand years ago, we must,” he writes. “Arm yourself — metaphorically, intellectually, physically. Our fight is not with guns. Yet.”

He concluded by arguing that fundamental followers of Islam plan to “conquer” Europe and America via demographics and culture to destroy “our nation’s Judeo-Christian institutions.”


THIS is what this country just voted for. Well done. I'm sure the Palestinians living in misery are thrilled with those protesters.

[Sundance1220]

276. One of the many things that have turned

Americans against your cause were the protesters attacking AMERICAN Jews for Israel. Looks like you do the same. Keep it up. You haven't turned the entire world against the Palestinians yet but there is still time.

[Uncle Joe]

277. The cause is ANTI-ETHNIC CLEANSING and ANTI-GENOCIDE and what some people do on a micro-basis has been too easily

and selectively attributed to an entire righteous movement by the corporate media as justification for ignoring some "inconvenient truths."

Landlord accused of killing 6-year-old Palestinian American boy pleads not guilty to murder and hate crime charges

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/30/us/palestinian-american-boy-stabbed/index.html

[Sundance1220]

204. And many feel they have been stabbed in the back

by those they protested on behalf of. Do you think those suffering Gazans would have voted to 'teach the Dems a lesson' rather than vote for a party that at least tries to help them?

[Uncle Joe]

222. There is no excuse or justification for genocide, period. It doesn't matter how anyone votes or doesn't vote, and

this has been taking place over the past year, *rump hasn't been in official power since 2020.

The suffering Gazans haven't been allowed to vote for over 15 years.

No one wanted to listen to the Palestinian Americans much less allowed them to voice their truth but they were largely labeled as anti-Semitic for protesting against ethnic cleansing or genocide against their own families and friends.

[Sundance1220]

224. Maybe Americans got sick of hearing

the word genocide bandied about - especially when it was aimed at the President - when no genocide was occurring. Then the protesters made things even worse by being so obnoxious - shutting down bridges, attacking Jewish students on campus and just, in general, being so annoying people stopped giving a crap about their cause. When the protesters started defending hamas, Americans had enough. It's their own fault that now NOBODY gives a crap. They have burned far too many bridges (pun intended).

[Uncle Joe]

225. Then you need to get rid of the 1st Amendment, and again there is no excuse/justification for genocide period. n/t

[Sundance1220]

229. There was no genocide

There is no genocide. You can scream it from the mountaintops and it still wont be true. Not sure what the first amendment has to do with protesters wearing out their welcome.

[Uncle Joe]

234. It's taking place now, in broad daylight, you can cover your eyes and ears, but it's still happening. n/t

[TheKentuckian]

239. Nope. It is suicide.

They demand by deed that Israel drop the fucking hammer and now they and their friends have installed God Emperor Chump to make sure their flesh is rendered for cooking oil and fertilizer but even now they probably could release the hostages, surrender, and face justice to save most of their people but they won't so good luck and goodbye.

[Uncle Joe]

253. Nope it's probable genocide and the vast

majority of humanity around the world see it, recognize it and know it.

Unless you believe that the United Nations is "CT" as well?

[Beck23]

120. All I have to say to them is..

Huckabee you.

[Bengus81]

122. Wait until ONCE again the same idiot MAGOTS start bitching about the ACA ending under Trump

More of the same where they were just soooo sure that they never had that health care from that black guy...nah the had the ACA so their protected.

It'll happen just like in 2017.

[tornado34jh]

125. Maybe you should have thought about that before you voted for him!

I swear, these people are so clueless. You bought into the lies, hook, line, and sinker. You made your bed with him, now you have to lie in it. I mean, it seems like everywhere where people vote for MAGA, they only realize what is coming after the fact.

[In It to Win It]

130. He didn't play you. You played yourself.

Trump signaled that he sided with Israel by recognizing their capital as Jerusalem.

At the Republican convention, they were shouting our pro-Israel they are.

[City Lights]

134. This was obvious to anyone paying attention.

Remorse is useless now.

[Pmut]

138. Sow true

Sow true its unbearable.

[OilemFirchen]

143. I feel sufficiently punished. And humbled.

So, to extend a courtesy to those who meted out this well-deserved retribution, you are welcome to my home - a mere 3 hours away. There, you can enjoy a fine Halal meal and we can engage in lively discussion on the subject. Then, for entertainment, I, my friends and family, will gather around you in a circle of brotherhood and watch you fuck yourselves. Please RSVP at your earliest convenience.

With all humility, your neighbor Oilem.

[ProfessorGAC]

145. The Arsonists Blaming The Lack Of An Extinguisher

Now your house is on fire. Nice going, folks.

[Conjuay]

149. no shit, Sherlock.

[sky_masterson]

151. They are fine when they think Trump is going to go after other people

Not such a good thing when you find out that you are on that same list.

[NavyDem]

153. If It Wasn't Clear what Trump's Position Was...

Take a look at what his pick for SoS has to say:

Transcript for those that cannot watch (generated from the video):

Senator rubio will you call for on the are you filming it I want you guys to get this I want them to destroy every element of Hamas they can get their hands on these people are vicious animals who did horrifying crimes and I hope you guys post that cuz that's about the civilians every day Hamas should stop hiding behind civilians putting civilians in the way Hamas knew that this was going to lead to this Hamas has sto building their military installations underneath hospitals so you don't care that 15,000 died you
don't care about the babies that are being kill horrifying I think it's terrible and I think Hamas is 100% to blame that's what I think make sure you post that please so here we are outside the office of Senator Marco Rubio who we ran into in the halls of Congress and he called us Hamas supporters because we want to stop killing babies so here is our response to Senator Rubio this conflict Senator Rubio did not start on October 7th it was preceded by Decades of Soul crushing oppression against Palestinians that you and many other
Senators have refused to acknowledge oppression and despair is what led to October 7th despite billions in Us weapons Israel will not be able to crush Hamas militarily why because with every bomb that kills more innocent people more Palestinians are determined to take up arms many of today's Hamas Fighters were orphaned in previous Israeli incursions into Gaza you really need to understand this fact Senator Rubio there will never be peace in Israel until there is Justice for Palestinians make sure you post this

[TheKentuckian]

155. What Palestinians? Play time is over.

[GaYellowDawg]

157. Can someone help me?

My last fuck to give ran away, and I didn't put a locator collar on it.

[MFM008]

165. Any democrats

Voting for this shit show can fuck off and die x 2.

[LiberalFighter]

166. Those voters are so smart at being stupid.

"to punish the Democrats and Harris."

By punishing themselves? How idiotic is that?

Someone needs to write letter to the editor at the local newspaper about this.

[vapor2]

168. We will ALL suffer for 4 long years due to the consequences of their actions

Makes me puke that every.single.republican. will now take from us and line their own pockets. F**king GREED and power

[Tribetime]

169. Wow thanks saw that coming a mile away

[eShirl]

170. care to single out any other groups to blame for Trump?

this is ugly

[Takket]

171. it's almost like falling for and supporting obvious Russian intelligence campaigns on social media is a BAD idea.......

[TomSlick]

172. How do these dumb a$$e$ have the brain power to breath?

[Blue Owl]

174. Aww that's a shame

[Freethinker65]

179. They actually thought a Christian white supremacist panderer gave a F about them?

[MrWowWow]

180. Who Cares?

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You want sympathy? Look it up in you're fucked and wagnals!
It's between shit and syphallis! Now, you will reap the whirlwind. FAFO!

[Sugarcoated]

182. Dysfunction junction

Centuries of revenge and tit for tat. The only bright spot in the election result is these idiots will get what they asked for.

[Bread and Circuses]

188. Who 's getting punished ? The Fools in Dearborn

Dearborn voters ,

I grieve the loss of life in Palestine. It is genocide and Netanyahu is a war criminal, the US in chained to Israel for all the wrong reasons. There are many good Israelis who are appalled as we are. They powerless, as our we.
The vile and corrupt men of the world can never be satiated. They want destruction and ruin of their enemies, no matter the cost to their own people or other people.

You will suffer greatly for your arrogance and support of This Felon. Gaza wil be leveled and Palestine fully absorbed with new Jewish settlements. Next the fancy condos, hotels and resorts will be built.

And you did it!

Do protest , please do. You’ll be arrested, sent to prison camps and there will be NO judicial or legal authorities to release you. And, we aren’t going to speak up to save you.

And you did it to yourselves and your children.

[TheKentuckian]

240. They aren't going to protest Agolf, they were in it to go after Democrats and particularly black people.

[Javaman]

189. y'all should check out Leopardsatemyface on reddit if you want some good schadenfreude. nt

[Oopsie Daisy]

190. My message to them is: "ENJOY TRUMP!" --- The same taunt they shouted at Democrats.

It's too late now motherfuckers! If there's another presidential election, it won't matter because the irreparable damage will be done. But I think what we (and THEY) now have is President-for-Life Trump. When he dies, it will not go to Vance, it will be Trump Jr.

[SKKY]

192. "Finding Out" is no fun, huh?

[Sundance1220]

193. I can't help but wonder how the Palestinians

actually living in Gaza, dealing with the war and misery, feel about these people tossing aside a party that was the only one that even cared if they lived for either a wasted vote for voting for a party as a means of "teaching us a lesson". It would seem to me those Gazans don't have the luxury is sitting in a warm and fully stocked home and wasting their vote on "teaching a lesson'.

[AloeVera]

197. I don't think Palestinians in Gaza feel very "cared for".

Good Golly, the cognitive dissonance...

[Sundance1220]

199. So you think those people

you profess to care so much about would have chosen to continue to suffer while well fed and housed Americans decide teaching a party a lesson was more important than their lives. Because that's exactly what happened here.

[AloeVera]

250. As you seem to care so much abt Gazans suffering..

Then I'm sure you will not join in the scapegoating, demonization, schafenfreude and back-turning that seems popular now. Because, since you care, you will know that is wrong for the people already suffering a genocide. Which, I may remind you, is being committed by Israel for 13 months, and which caused the loss of votes here. If you are unable or unwilling to make that connection, I can't help you.

Or you can go on deflecting, demonizing and abetting the surge of Muslim hatred etc in which case I have nothing further to say to you.

[Sundance1220]

256. There is no genocide

When 98% if the people alive before 10/7 are still alive. Things are bad enough without you using words so carelessly, they lose all meaning.

I absolutely recognize anti Muslim sentiment is a problem and has been for decades. I also recognize it pales in comparison the uptick in anti Jewish sentiment. The numbers on that are quite clear.

[AloeVera]

257. Of course there is.

Well now perhaps the two types of hatred will be more balanced, at least in the States. Nothing to be happy about.

Genocide denial is a real thing. It happens when some people are viewed as less than others. For example, when the killing of 1200 people is called a genocide by some but not the killing of 43,000 (much higher in reality). Even accounting for population differences, that's quite revealing.

To put it in perspective, that's equivalent to 7 million Americans dead. I wonder if it would be shrugged off so easily then. How about 200,000 Israelis? Perhaps those figures make you shudder, perhaps not.

The toll of the genocide is not just in the vastly understated death count, but in the many additional unreported deaths both direct and indirect. Diseases, epidemics, lack of medical care, dirty water, malnutrition and starvation and of course generational stunting and PTSD. Just the impact of no schooling for kids for years is enormous, as is the impact of the demolition of all 12 universities. Genocide is mental as well as physical destruction.

There is no other way to look at the sum of all evidence, in its totality, and not conclude this is a genocide forethought and well-planned. It's nothing short of evil.

Edited to add: About the death-toll undercount: there are at least 10,000 missing, presumed buried under rubble. That was at the endof November. The missing count was then discontinued. As for the official count of deaths, there is nothing worthy of that name. The hospitals, the counters of the dead, are gone. Which raises the question, who is taking care of the badly wounded, maimed and burned, most of them ending up dead too? Who counts them?

But aside from the counts, who will be held accountable for the massive, unfuckingspeakable human suffering inflicted on these defenceless people, most of them children? As long as there are genocide deniers, no one will.

Done here.

[Sundance1220]

258. Their leaders, hamas,

Is responsible for each and every death. They KNEW this would happen to their own people and still hide behind them. That's what people are going to be remember.

[TheKentuckian]

241. You are talking the most stupicidal, spiteful, genocidal people in history here

they would cheer it on just as they did 10/7 despite knowing they were going into the barrel.

[Sundance1220]

248. That's pretty dark

I'll put it this way. I have truly never before seen a people who never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

But I put a substantial part of the blame on those who have been whispering in their ears for 75 years telling them if they just suffer a little while longer, they'll soon be rid of those pesky Jews. That includes their leaders and those idiots protesters

[Emile]

195. The only word I can think of is STUPID.

[OhioTim]

196. Muslim Members Of Congress

should be shunned if they supported not voting for Harris

[Ilikepurple]

228. But only Muslim ones? Were shunning now?

[Blue for the win]

200. Lay in the bed you made

Dearborn obviously not a city of our best and brightest. But they made their bed of s*** now they can lay in it I certainly couldn't give a s*** less about him anymore

[BradBo]

216. No shit Sherlock.

[Farmer-Rick]

217. That's just a sliver of what Stinky Trumpy

Is going to do to Muslims, Jews, Hispanics, Asians and women. He loves the suffering of others. It gets him going. And he's about to get going on the American public. You thought a million deaths from COVID was bad? Wait until you hear about all the deaths in the concentration camps and troop deployments to help out his buddies the dictators.

Mass Deportations, slave labor, another great depression, sending American troops to fight and die for Mother Russia. Just a few things Funky Trumpy has in store for the idiots who voted for him.

No more conning, soft manipulation and propaganda for Trumpy. It will be forced onto the MAGAts like he forced birth onto women.

[iluvtennis]

219. You voted for him ....now deal with it. n/t

[Jimvanhise]

220. DID THEY NOT LISTEN TO TRUMP?

Trump stated that pro Palestinian protestors in the US should be deported. He's clearly going to make life hard for Muslims in the US with crackdowns on any anti Israel protests. He wants to end the war in Gaza by crushing Hamas and all of those who protest Israel and he'll give Israel all of the weapons it wants. He never kept that a secret.

[Historic NY]

221. I don't care start fucking packing/

[Old Crank]

223. Have a friend who was like that with RFK jr.

When I said a vote for him was avote for trump she said she wanted to vote for someone she believed in not the choices given to her.... Fortunately he dropped out and she lives in CA where taht wouldn't matter, but .

[AloeVera]

231. Your sympathy for Gaza was not very deep then, perhaps.

If it were, you would not have lost it in a fit of anger and despair about your own fortunes which Gazans had no hand in. Nor resorted to victim-blaming.

Those who truly cared, still do. It's a f******* GENOCIDE.

[TheKentuckian]

243. They can fill in where hundreds of thousands of Jews once lived in Arab lands before they were ethnically cleansed.

chalk it a square deal and shut the fuck up about it for eternity or go the way of the dodo.

Now...for the next trick..educating lying motherfuckers what a genocide is at their own intentional direction.

Haha!

[AloeVera]

245. Rec'd for display of mask-off.

For the gullible who never saw the real face and what this was always about.

Cheerleading for genocide, right here on DU.

Blocked for good.

[TheKentuckian]

246. Oh noes!

I didn't demand and literally force the genocide into existence and lie since 10/8/23 that one was going on in order to disrupt the political system to install a fascist.

Grow up and take some responsibility for selecting the maximal destruction option because crazy, belicose, and really poor thinking.

You guys gamed this plan out and thought it was a winner?

Fucking CRAZY STUPIDITY.

Am I cruel now? Guilty but again, I can only assume that was the desired response because I don't see what the anticipated alternative was supposed to be.

If the thought was Chump's rule would be welcomed then that was way past delusional.

[TheKentuckian]

247. Deleted double post

[Zorro]

232. I have no sympathy for fucking idiots

Doesn't matter what their ethnicity or color is.

[dsp3000]

233. "fuck your feelings"

[LetMyPeopleVote]

251. These idiots voted for and supported trump and it is sad seeing them ask President Biden to save them

Link to tweet

TODAY’S EPISODE OF: F*CK AROUND AND FIND OUT!

Oh, so now they’re STARTING to get it.

Voters spoke in a choice election, and it’s going to get exponentially worse in Gaza when Trump takes office. Congrats,
@DrJillStein

.

[Rebl2]

255. F... around

and found out now didn’t you!

[Asa13]

259. Looking in my fields for fucks to give.

Nope none found. You made your bed now lay in it. Your commitment to your regressive religion and worrying more about what's going on in another part of the world more than the country you live in has gotten you here I hope you enjoy.

[kentuck]

264. No shit, Sherlock!

Did you really think otherwise?

[we can do it]

265. They can go straight to hell. Deport them I don't care.

[LeftInTX]

281. Several white friends of mine did this

Thanks white friends. Both were with the Democratic Party. One was trying to hide when I spotted her wearing her Jill Stein tee shirt.

Thanks to your contribution to democracy!!! Not!!

Thanks for helping the people of Gaza!!! Not!!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

282. Witnessing Karma

Link to tweet