Jack E Smith! - not Jack L Smith

[malaise]

Link to tweet

Speaks for me

[Easterncedar]

1. Wow. That's frankly terrifying.

[malaise]

2. Indeed

I, like many of you, have been contemplating our predicament since election night.

We are in a losing war for our democracy and I'm not sure we collectively know who our true adversary is.

It's not the voting blocks...white women, Latinos, Gen X. It's not MAGA. It's not even Trump.

It's an insidious power that has been hiding in the shadows for some time...and when the stakes were at their highest in this election, it fully revealed itself.

The American Oligarchy.

They control our Supreme Court, much of Congress, and the flow of information to the masses via legacy, mainstream and social media.

They decide the national conversation, how to keep us at each other's throats while they continue to amass wealth and power completely unchecked.

They put their thumbs on the scale of justice and poured billions into this election. They chose Trump because he was desperate and would capitulate to their demands. They chose a running mate to replace him in case he became too unhinged to control.

Consider how many disqualifying facts about Trump never saw the light of day...or didn't get the attention they deserved...or got drowned out by propaganda. They took a mentally spent buffoon and presented him as a hero to the masses.

Despite Biden successfully steering us out of a global recession and strengthening our economy, they maintained the national tone about the price of groceries being too high. Despite Trump's obvious mental decline, their media outlets remained reticent to press the issue.

We struggle to unite as a nation because they're too good at keeping us divided. We are drowning in disinformation because they control all of it.

They have successfully created imaginary villains for us to fight...each other.

It seems like we are a democracy careening towards fascism, when the reality is they're using the specter of fascism to keep us on edge while they turn America into a compliant oligarchy.

Whether you are a democrat, republican, independent or MAGA, we have a common foe.

Some of us just don't know it yet.

[Clouds Passing]

23. Thanks for transcribing that Malaise so we don't have to go to x

[usonian]

38. For the visually oriented:

They use the tools of fascism, and their playbook.

[malaise]

53. Perfect

😀

[magicarpet]

102. JOHN LUMAN SMITH,.... You know about the name discrepancy,... correct ?

"John Luman Smith (born June 5, 1969) is an American attorney who has served in the United States Department of Justice as an assistant U.S. attorney, acting U.S. attorney, and head of the department's Public Integrity Section. He was also the chief prosecutor at the Kosovo Specialist Chambers, an international tribunal at The Hague tasked with investigating and prosecuting war crimes in the Kosovo War."

In November 2022, attorney general Merrick Garland appointed Smith an independent special counsel, responsible for overseeing two preexisting Justice Department criminal investigations into former president Donald Trump, three days after Trump announced his 2024 presidential campaign: one regarding Trump's role in the January 6 U.S. Capitol attack, and the other into alleged mishandling of government records, including classified documents. The documents case resulted in a 37-count indictment of Trump in June 2023 to which three counts were later added in July.[2] In August, the January 6 case resulted in an indictment on four charges.[3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Smith_(lawyer)#:~:text=John%20Luman%20Smith%20(born,the%20Kosovo%20War.

[Dickeylee]

103. Dickeylee

That 22 month gap really set the narrative of lie and stall, appeal and appeal. Maybe May 2021?
Oh, and Fanie sleeping with a married man…

[kkmarie]

117. Jack E Smith is not the special counsel

When I saw the x from Jack E Smith. I thought no way special counsel would post his thoughts to x. And apparently he did not. As you did magicarpet a search shows special counsel middle name is Luman.

Can't argue that it's a good post though

[magicarpet]

131. Oh,.. excellent post by Malaise, absolutely no question.

Mother Malaise has a sharp eye and mind to huntdown goodies on the web and bring them to DU for open group discussions and further considerations.

Who ever wrote this,... who ever John "E" Smith is,... said just what everyone needs to hear/think/consider as we formulate plans to sort our way out of this vehement Nazi anti-democracy festival of hate.

An excellent message was passed on to us explaining where we are and what we are up against as we sort our way out of this mess we are engulfed and tangled up in.

Well written piece no matter the source it was derived from.

It would be nice to hear this person's and/or groups perspectives and viewpoints periodically now and then. I found it refreshing and encouraging that a concise statement was made covering most all of the bases and causes of our current situations and quickly approaching dilemmas.

Maybe like the leaker "Anonymous",.. John "E" Smith will periodically visit upon us when he has some more words of encouragement to impart or information to share.

I for one will be on the lookout and open minded for alternate viewpoints
about how we slay this fire breathing dragon of Fascism. It is foolish to slam or close doors that might help us achieve that end.

Being somewhat less rigid and more positive might be the best course of action for us all presently - if we hope to put this issue of Fascism to rest once again. All hands of deck is really our best game plan and option.

[catchnrelease]

138. Regular Jack E Smith posts

He posts regularly on the Bluesky forum. An alternative to x and as far as I can tell it doesn't allow the hateful and disinformation posts seen on x. At least not so far. Many excellent and informative posters there.

[brush]

72. Oligarchy is fascism on steroids. They've got us by the cojones.

Last edited Thu Nov 14, 2024, 07:58 PM - Edit history (1)

I resent being grouped with traitors, magats and rethugs.

All of us weren't fooled.

[orwell]

44. Exactly what I have been saying for the better part of a decade...

...but very few choose to listen.

They keep buying products from these pigs and then wonder why they are covered with muck.

You are literally buying your enslavement.

[2naSalit]

80. Thanks!

[Uncle Joe]

99. I've never seen 53 recs on a sub post before

[Bluethroughu]

123. MoneyPOWER.

[malaise]

3. The best line

They took a mentally spent buffoon and presented him as a hero to the masses.

[bdamomma]

54. Putin and many others

are in for full destruction of the USA. Insurrection Act could be implemented if anyone protests the felon.

I am hoping the military will not comply to anything that the felon requests.

[Karasu]

67. Depends on whether he succeeds in purging military leadership or not.

[CentralMass]

4. He nailed it.

[malaise]

9. And then some

Rec

[NJCher]

5. I'm not terrified

Those are just the facts. Somebody has to define the problem succinctly before we can do anything about it. That's what Jack has done.

I liked the part about the mentally spent candidate and how he was chosen because he is desperate. Also how they even chose his successor in case he becomes too hard to handle.They are already at that point and he's not even at his inauguration.

[stillcool]

11. just the facts

nothing we haven't known about for a long time. Unfortunately naming names has never meant anything. Whether it's the Koch's the Mercer's, Devos's...remember that site that had all the right wing think tanks, hedge funds, and families?

[NJCher]

6. yo, Jack

what are you doing at Twitter?

[ananda]

22. The same post is here at Bluesky

https://bsky.app/profile/jack-e-smith.bsky.social/post/3laodfcsnlc2m

[ShazzieB]

46. Thanks!

I just joined Bluesky today, so I followed him and liked the post.

[blueseas]

78. Thanks

[malaise]

98. Thanks

For the link

[femmedem]

24. It's a parody account, not the Jack Smith in the avatar.

From Jack E Smith's profile: "Here for people, politics and PARODY."

[ShazzieB]

49. Oh well, it's extremely well written, that's for sure.

I already followed him on Bluesky, so I'll continue to do so. I'll be interested to see what else he comes up with.

[reACTIONary]

60. Thanks! I was scrolling down the comments...

... to find out if that was the case. None of it seemed like anything Jack Smith would post. He's a pro.

[markie]

7. speaks for me as well

for 50 years...
I have displayed this poster in my house for decades...

[niyad]

17. Could you post this as its own OP, for visibility, and so we can rec it?

Thanks in advance.

[malaise]

21. Agree

Between the neo-cons foreign policy and neo-liberal ecominic policy we are collectively fucked

[c-rational]

88. Wow wonderful poster. Thanks and I agree with malaise's suggestion to post as its own OP.

[Passages]

120. Yes and so many Americans will respond to this message when our side takes this on in full force.

We are undoubtedly the better side, yet we must be much bolder and not interpret our losses as a sign that we are too liberal.

That is my fear, the Dem leadership will go to the right.

I also want to see the old guard retire asap.

[Emile]

8. K & R

Speaks for me too!

[J-9]

10. Not really Jack Smith

Not the Jack Smith.

[malaise]

12. Who cares

This one nailed it

Enjoy your stay

[Brenda]

29. okay, what?

I care. Is this from the real Jack or not?

[Wounded Bear]

32. No, it's a parody account...nt

[Brenda]

35. maybe ok

[Babajida]

45. It's a parody account

That doesn't undercut what was written. It's a great parody account. It's not *the* Jack Smith.

[malaise]

51. I would love it to be but the comments are spot on

and that’s good

[niyad]

56. What difference does that make to the validity of the posted material?

[Gore1FL]

37. I care. There is clearly a different weight and implication based on source credibility.

I don't see the need to be hostile to a new member who posted a fact.

[niyad]

57. Exactly what diffference does that make to what was posted?

[Gore1FL]

84. I would think that Jack Smith would carry more weight than rando-person on internet. nt

[niyad]

104. So the words change meaning, based on who presents them? Got it.

[Gore1FL]

108. The literal title of the thread is "Jack E Smith!" When it is presented as "Jack E Smith!" I expect "Jack E Smith!"

So yes. In the context of how the infomration was presented, "Jack E Smith!" is sort of an expected requirement.

And yes, those words would have had more meaning if they had been from "Jack E Smith!"

I'm glad you got it.

[niyad]

110. The fact that it is Jack "E." Smith should have been the giveaway, since Special

Counsel Smith is Jack "Luman" Smith.

[Cheezoholic]

112. Now THAT made me laugh for the first time since 11/6! n/t

[niyad]

113. Happy to help!

[Gore1FL]

121. FFS. Why? Why? Why are you continuing this subthread.

Dont you have 100 cross-posts to make or something?

[niyad]

125. ohhhh myyyy. The irony.

[Gore1FL]

127. And the coppery, and aluminumy. Please harass someone else over unimportant bullshit. I'm busy. nt

[niyad]

128. . . .

[Gore1FL]

130. Goodbye forever. nt

[onenote]

43. I imagine the real Jack Smith cares about his name and photo being associated with words he didn't write.

And people believing that they are his words.

I know I would care a great deal if that was being done to me.

[niyad]

47. This particular account has been around for quite some time now. I don't notice

Special Counsel Jack Smith being upset about it, especially given the tenor of the account.

[J-9]

66. ??

I didn't say I don't agree with it. I just informed the poster it was not the *real* person they thought. You know, the name of the thread.

Why is that a problem? I thought we didn't want to be like them and spread misinformation.

Your welcome.

[niyad]

81. It is interesting that you thought that the OP needed to be informed of that fact.

That particular parody account's remarks have been posted here any number of times, without the OP being accused of spreading misinformation, so I am fascinated by your charges.

[J-9]

87. There are no charges

I thought we were here to inform each other. That's all it was, making sure folks know what's real. I didn't attack, I informed. And apparently many people didn't know.

I stand by my post.

[femmedem]

140. J-9 hasn't posted again since this exchange.

I'm not surprised, but I'm sad. It looks like we lost another new member of this community, someone whose effort to prevent a misunderstanding I appreciated.

[J-9]

75. Malaise

Let me make this pelucidly clear. I've been reading your comments for years, this disappoints me.

Idc if you don't care, I just want you to know.

[niyad]

19. We all know that, thank you.

[femmedem]

28. It doesn't look to me as if all the posters know that.

And hey, why not be more welcoming to a new DUer?

[onenote]

42. It's pretty clear "all" don't know that.

[Iggo]

76. Looks like a whole bunch of us don't know that.

Pretty easy to spot as a fake, but that never stopped DUers before…lol.

[LAS14]

91. No, we DON'T "all know that." nt

[sagetea]

25. Okay, J-9

sage

[femmedem]

26. Correct, and welcome to DU.

I just posted the same thing, not realizing you beat me to it.
Welcome to Democratic Underground!

[J-9]

68. Thanks. I've been lurking daily

Since President Obama but just created an account recently. I didn't engage before because people can be rude for no reason.

See above.

Oh. I also joined bluesky yesterday.🎉

[femmedem]

90. Yeah, some of those replies were uncalled for.

And I was surprised by who made them. I hope they don't chase you off the board.
For what it's worth, I wasn't the only person standing up for you. I try to shrug off the rudeness and focus on the information and kindness that are here, too.

[Easterncedar]

101. Thanks. I missed that.

Still terrifying though!

[ALBliberal]

105. It matters to me! I sent this out to my family!

Now it’s a bit embarrassing

Let’s hope the real Jack Smith has same valor

Ok not holding my breath

A bit of a let down honestly

[CrispyQ]

13. It's the last chance for the world's elite to steal everything of value before climate chaos really hits.

The smart ones are building as big a cushion as they can, the dumb ones are living large, & the rest of us can buzz off. I've said for a few years now, that democracy's going to be harder & harder to hang onto throughout the world, & we just dealt ours a horrible blow.

[SheilaAnn]

14. Bet Leonard Leo is feeling oh so proud of himself these days. Scum!

[Passages]

15. My hero and there are not many left imo. FDR would agree with Smith 100%.

The American Oligarchy.

They control our Supreme Court, much of Congress, and the flow of information to the masses via legacy, mainstream and social media.

They decide the national conversation, how to keep us at each other's throats while they continue to amass wealth and power completely unchecked.

[LAS14]

92. It's not your hero, unless your hero is a parody writer. nt

[Passages]

96. A parody writer who acknowledges the power and corruption of the oligarchs.

Not likely too far off the mark for Smith.

I guess the blue check is meaningless since Musk bought Twitter.

[spicysista]

16. Wow!

Cam you imagine all the evidence he's seen? Evidence that may never see the light of day.

Edited to add: Even if this isn't the real account, this take is brilliant.

[Farmer-Rick]

18. And what created these oligarchs?

Capitalism. Even in Russia and China. Capitalism is concentrating wealth in just a few hands.

They are the real enemy of the people, the filthy-rich oligarchs.

[malaise]

33. There were oligarchies under feudalism as well

Many reforms took place in the last century but the unraveling began with the collapse of socialism - society has been replaced by the market.

[Wounded Bear]

34. Yes, unbridled capitalism always leads to oligarchy and fascism...nt

[niyad]

20. Speaks for me as well!

[Zorro]

27. The French oligarchy FAFO'ed in 1793

The Russian oligarchy FAFO'ed in 1918.

The Romanian oligarchy FAFO'ed in 1989.

Just sayin'.

[malaise]

30. Just recc

ing 😂😀😂

[EarnestPutz]

31. This may be the most important thing that you read today, especially so, considering the source.

[onenote]

40. The source is a parody site, not Jack Smith.

Someone asked "who cares"-- I bet the real Jack Smith cares that his photo and name are being associated with statements he didn't make.

[infullview]

36. He's absolutely right, and if Biden were smart...

He would invoke insurrection and arrest trump Vance and at lest four members of the supreme court invoke martial law and take control of government until the gerrymandering and electoral college can be reworked to provide real democracy. The Supreme Court had given him the cover he needs to do this. It’s time.

[onenote]

41. The problem with your post is that Biden is smart as are the people advising him

And they, unlike you, know the limits of his power, what the immunity decision actually does, and what martial law is and isn't.

But go ahead and be a pretend constitutional expert and give advice to the president. That makes a lot of sense.

[infullview]

119. Like you are....

Sorry I’m so pissed off about our failed government. Yes, I think Biden failed by appointing Merrick Garland as AG. He should have gone after trump first.

[Sewa]

39. And some people called Smith Superman lol

Superman wouldn’t cut n run for cover.

He knows who’s behind the destruction of democracy but he’s afraid to name names.

Fuck Off Smith

[thebigidea]

55. so much for "we" all knowing this was a parody account.

What exactly is the parody or satire here, anyway? They are just using Smith's name and likeness to post bog standard left-wing twitter stuff.

[Sewa]

59. Jack Smith will save democracy how fucking funny

💀😡

[Six117]

48. Thank you.

This was a much needed reminder about our true common enemy.

[relayerbob]

50. Um, yeah

This may be news to some, I suppose.

[cachukis]

52. We are in predicament. Manage as well as you can.

[wordstroken]

58. Wow! Powerful. Thank you so much for posting, malaise.

[OMGWTF]

61. So, these tariffs that Shitler keeps talking about, exactly where would all of the $$ be going?

Is this just another way to grift off of us? These oligarchs are mentally ill. They are hoarders and will never have enough.

[bucolic_frolic]

62. Nazi Germany had its oligarchs too even if they were called industrialists

Thievery of all kinds, passing the loot up the political ladder. So I really have to question if rule by Oligarchs is any less fascist.

[malaise]

65. They work hand in hand

Some of this bunch are both

[chouchou]

63. Oh Yeah. We've know it..without lot of power and money, we also know...

..we're still in our cages..trying to break free. Love you Jack!

[Blue Owl]

64. Captain Jack has spotted the iceberg we are about to hit

[LAS14]

93. It's a parody. nt

[soldierant]

69. I considered making this an OP

but after reading this, I decided to just put it here.

https://denverite.com/2024/11/13/denver-scream-church-trump-election-reaction/

Anyone for whom this would behelpful, or even thinks it might be helpful, you don't have to live in Denver. All the procedures are here.

It's not fpr me, but I'm vividly aware that there are tons of things in the world whic do nothing for me, but can be incredibly elpful to many people. I would recommend reaching out to Candice if you intend to ude her name -the personal one or the name "Scream Church."

[niyad]

106. I think this should be its own OP, for wider visibility.

[Justice matters.]

70. Well, Mark Cuban and Warren Buffet and...

Taylor Swift and Oprah Winfrey and Beyoncé Giselle Knowles-Carter are not in the same tribe as Murdoch and Musk and Thiel and Sinclair (the most well known oligarchs on the dark side) but I get the point.

[Prairie_Seagull]

71. That's not a parting shot, that's

a parting howitzer.

[LAS14]

89. It's not a parting shot. It's a parody. Not the Jack Smith in the avatar. nt

[blueseas]

73. American Oligarchy

Thanks

[2naSalit]

74. But I can't see it!

What's this about?

[malaise]

77. See post #2

[Nululu]

79. Excellent

Masterly stated

[Jrsygrl96]

82. The Gnomes of Zurich

It’s been coming on for decades! But we need a new name for them!

[Orrex]

83. Blueprints for guillotines are readily available online

And pitchforks can be obtained at any home center.

[Puppyjive]

85. A landlord with gold toilets

Why in earth would anyone think Trump is equipped to lower shelter prices? He would be shooting himself in the foot. Your landlord raises your rent so you give him him complete power. Wtf?

[LAS14]

86. We need a new rule. So we can alert posts that the poster should have...

... known were misleading. This is a parody account. We should have been told in the OP. I'm not sure how one would word this.
Anyway, malaise, could you edit your OP to give us a heads up?

[niyad]

109. Out of curiosity, have you asked the same of the other parody and satire

accounts that are posted here on DU?

[LAS14]

124. I'm collecting examples in preparation for making an OP on the subject.

I've got 3 good ones so far. Started collecting about a week ago.

[niyad]

126. Very much looking forward to it.

[republianmushroom]

94. Thanks Jack, you nailed it.

[Mosby]

95. Meh.

Nt.

[Uncle Joe]

97. I totally agree with Jack, but I would suggest that's it's not just American,

but global oligarchy manipulating the people and turning them against one another.

Thanks for the thread malaise

[TheKentuckian]

100. No, it is the stupid motherfuckers.

The excuses for the stupidity are tiresome and can only function as excercises in magical thinking.

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

107. malaise, I believe you should make it clear in your OP that this is a fake account you are linking us to. nt

[padah513]

111. Most people here already know that

[GoodRaisin]

114. And no matter who said it, the post is valid.

[Blue_Roses]

116. No we don't...

Alot of people are confused now

[Magoo48]

118. The truth, the whole truth, nuthin but the truth.

They’ve even plopped one of themselves down right in the middle of the circus for all to see. Muskrat is the managing partner

[SharonAnn]

122. I've known this for decades. I've been watching how our oligarchs have manipulated the economy to benefir themselves.

You just had to pay attention. It was especially visible during Regan's term and W's term. Then people just got used to not paying attention to the tax bills, the tax credits, the gov't funding private enterprise?

[Omnipresent]

129. I don't know about the rest of you, but...

I had no idea that a trump win would turn Jack Smith’s case into a cartoonish capitulation.

[sop]

132. My sentiments exactly.

[Beowulf42]

133. No Sh*t

I've been saying this for years. The rich are different from us simply because they have enough money and power to survive whatever the f*@k is done to our government. The rest of us are at the mercy of the whims of those appointed by that said Oligarchy.

[Sogo]

134. I'm surprised he gets away with using Jack L. Smith's picture.

NIL, etc.

[Catherine Vincent]

135. I followed him fir a while on Twitter

I asked in another thread if anyone figured out who was behind that account.

[Ms. Toad]

136. Thank you for the edit to the OP to clarify which Jack Smith. n/t

[magicarpet]

137. The name difference does not discount or discredit the value of the message conveyed.

It is still a solid explanation of how we arrived at this point and the fascistic forces working against us to make this nightmare all possible.

I look forward to more communications from this well spoken individual whoever they may be. It reads like a structural engineering blueprint of how how the super structure of American Fascism came to be,... I-beam by I-beam, rivot by rivot, and weld by weld.

A solid message to ponder.

[malaise]

139. Precisely n/t