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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSome people I work with
said they were excited about RFK Jr being named as HHS secretary. They weren't being sarcastic. Usually nobody says anything political, but now they are all coming out as MAGA. These are well educated people who voted for Trump.
SheltieLover
(59,618 posts)milestogo
(17,833 posts)SheltieLover
(59,618 posts)I'm sure pupper will empathize!
flying_wahini
(8,013 posts)Stupid fucks.
milestogo
(17,833 posts)Can you refuse vaccines in the military? If you're going to be deployed to foreign countries, can you just refuse to take vaccines?
Traildogbob
(9,993 posts)Every cruise we headed out on, we had to form a line, sleeves up and walk through a barrage of high pressure air guns shooting both arms full.
Dont move, the vaccine stream will rip your arm open.
Skittles
(159,374 posts)it was always the guys
MiHale
(10,790 posts)Had rips across his chest
dont think I ever stood so still.
First day of boot. There was a food contamination that blew up into a bacteria nightmare.
We were lined up against a wall and told to drop trousers. Then those asshole medics (pecker checkers) pretended as though they were gonna throw darts.
We all got a dose, glob, of cold ass penicillin in the ass.
A painful lump for days, and March March March.
Where was Bobby then???
Skittles
(159,374 posts)I would ask them flat-out WHY DO YOU SUPPORT FASCISM
Meowmee
(5,529 posts)and you get a lot of them all at once mostly. But there were I think medical and if you can believe it religious exemptions. The covid vaccine mandate was rescinded at some point I think though.
When I was in vaccines weren't choose from Column A or B.
Keepthesoulalive
(592 posts)They are indoctrinated .
milestogo
(17,833 posts)you can be a technical genius but have no common sense.
Lokee11
(245 posts)He is a rich boy who latched onto others and rode their genius to his benefit.
He is not illiterate though - unlike that Orange piece of 💩.
FUCK FAKE GENIUS MUSK!
FDT✊!
SocialDemocrat61
(2,846 posts)intelligent. Some of the smartest people I know never went to college. And I know ivy league graduates who are complete idiots.
Omnipresent
(6,342 posts)Traildogbob
(9,993 posts)This is What they wanted and what they will get. I will laugh at the horror they also will receive.
But, I will stay raged at them shitting on the graves of dead soldiers, especially WWII heros.
🍆🥔🍆🥔🍆🥔🍆🥔🍆🥔🍆🥔🍆🥔🍆🥔
Irish_Dem
(57,616 posts)To defy all science and advocate no vaccinations for the American population is suicidal.
Butterflylady
(3,988 posts)Have absolutely NO common sense. I truly believe that with republicans today...
Irish_Dem
(57,616 posts)But even high IQ does not protect a person from being horribly misguided by emotion or bias.
Tickle
(3,078 posts)They have been emboldened.
It's going to be a long 4 years if you ask me.
Emile
(29,856 posts)bucolic_frolic
(47,006 posts)travelingthrulife
(712 posts)He's just one of their many chaos agents.
LizBeth
(10,822 posts)Had to educate why tariffs will increase cost. Why it is an issue dock workers striking and her husband drives rigs for Walmart. I told her wtf, the most CT driven person in our health and she says he aligns with her belief with health. So all of the rest of us have to follow her voodoo health beliefs. Blew my mind.
Biophilic
(4,744 posts)I knew it when I was a young kid, standing in line to get my Polio vaccination. I knew it was important because I had personally felt the fear and loss of at least one friend. It doesn't take brains to understand how important some things are. It takes willfulness and hatred, and yes, some level of stupidity.
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Skittles
(159,374 posts)sure bro
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Skittles
(159,374 posts)WE ALREADY GET ENOUGH MISINFORMATION, WE DON'T NEED MORE
DONE HERE
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Biophilic
(4,744 posts)Doctors have been known to make mistakes but rarely have they done so after years of research and the heartbreak of babies dying young way too young. I grew up in the 40s and 50s. I remember. Vaccines work to save lives.
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RandomNumbers
(18,153 posts)Brief as it may be.
For the record, RFK Jr is against other vaccines that have a long track record of success in preventing disease.
It is apparent that for this administration, the suffering is the point.
mercuryblues
(15,114 posts)That was a complete total lie
After my transplant, I had to get revaccinated for every childhood disease there, is and no way in hell that I get dozens at the same time.
And they were spread out over two years time. These anti-VAX can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
I hold them and complete total contempt because of what they have put me through with their anti-VAX Bullshit.
Skittles
(159,374 posts)they are so fucking obvious
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NoRethugFriends
(2,997 posts)Nobody intelligent buys your COVID vax crap
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The Wizard
(12,870 posts)Educated applies to those who can critically think and comprehend concepts.
DaddyShark
(14 posts)I'm not anti-vaccinne at all and have gotten and plan to get my young daughter all the recommended vaccines from her doctor. But if there's any good thing that can come with RFK being in a health role, it's the calling out of the poisons in our food. I used to think people who were anti-GMO were crazy, but I started looking into it a little more and there's just too many things for it just to be a coincidence. For example, I wasn't alive in the 70's (was born in the 80s), but when I look at photos or videos of people from the 1970's and before that, one thing you notice is that seeing overweight people is extremely rare. Or at least severely overweight, as in more than 20 pounds overweight. Almost everyone I have seen from that era and before was super thin. And I don't buy that there was no lazy people in the 70s, or that they all ate healthy home cooked meals every day, and they all worked out regularly at the gym. That's gotta be bs, because in most other ways they weren't very health concious at all. The majority of them were smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day, and drinking a lot more alcohol than Americans do today. Mcdonald's was also huge in the 60's and 70's. People ate it like crazy. The difference? It's not the same mcdonalds. They fried the french fries and other food in beef tallow back then instead of whatever weird lab created vegetable oil that they use now.
But the timeline really makes sense in the grand scheme of things. We started using bioengineering in food in the early 80s, and it really took off in the 90's and beyond. Which is the exact timeline of when obesity rates started to skyrocket in this country. One of the arguments against GMO is that your body doesn't fully recognize it as food and doesn't process it the same way that it does with natural food, which causes you to eat more of it as the body is trying to get something that's not found in the food you are eating, so you don't feel satisfied and it causes you to overeat.
The fact that most of Europe has banned bioengineered ingredients in their foods should really tell you something as well. It's something that should be looked into very hard. But since the reason they started using these ingredients in the first place was to cut costs and increase profits, banning bioengineered ingredients will likely increase costs of food though. Which is already really expensive. But I think it's a price that might be worth paying to save the health of our children and our country.
milestogo
(17,833 posts)And who looks to the secretary of HHS for dietary advice? Most people don't even listen to their doctors, much less a politician.
Someone who pans vaccines in the middle of a global epidemic just has really poor judgment.
LisaM
(28,604 posts)I happen to agree that GMO food should be banned, too. But, it won't be under a Trump administration, no matter how much RFK bleats about it. This appointment is straight up about vaccines and peoples being upset about what they saw as mandates.
obamanut2012
(27,807 posts)Or cause AIDS? Or vax cause autism?
Do you agree with how he basically murdered people on Anerica Samoa?
Do you think ADHD doesn't exist? Or depression?
Do you thi k people on meds should be made to live on wellness farms for several years so they can get over being depressed or having ADHD or certain disabilities by eating organic food while performing manual labor?
I don't agree with any of that stuff. But if most of the developed world is banning GMO's, its something we should look into as well.
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Meowmee
(5,529 posts)Fish700
(98 posts)Also a lot more people went outside and moved around.
peregrinus
(230 posts)The reason for what you describe is because junk food just wasnt as prevalent as it is today. There werent as many food options period and fast food was just about to take off, it hadnt yet.
Gore1FL
(21,893 posts)Vinca
(51,053 posts)LogDog75
(100 posts)If RFK doesn't believe in vaccines then his version of medicine is bloodletting; that is, bleeding a patient to remove the bad blood making a person sick. Welcome to 1700s medicine.
GoreWon2000
(985 posts)because there are no more vaccines, maybe then they'll wake up.
Bmoboy
(408 posts)GoreWon2000
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Skittles
(159,374 posts)they just do not fucking care
GoreWon2000
(985 posts)Skittles
(159,374 posts)why would they care about kids dying from preventable diseases?
BrianTheEVGuy
(574 posts)Perhaps we should just let Darwin do his work?
Freethinker65
(11,139 posts)I understand trying to exercise and eat healthier, but not everyone can afford grass fed beef and shopping only organic (even if out of season) at "health food" stores, or extolling the virtues of pricy supplements. I work with some coworkers that lecture about their health routines. I especially love these same coworkers drinking sugary bought coffee drinks and processed frozen meals from Trader Joe's, and lecturing me about their work outs and gym membership. RFK appeals to them I suppose.
Skittles
(159,374 posts)the last time I called in sick to work was the day the planes hit the towers
Joe_Gadway
(49 posts)Some people don't learn until they touch the hot stove.
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Some people not even then.
travelingthrulife
(712 posts)Bmoboy
(408 posts)Alternative or Complementary medicine is more acceptable to people with serious illness who have been told there is no cure or the cure is Hella expensive.
Acupuncture, homeopathy, mega vitamins - all used to be thought of as quackery.
Bobby.jr taps into that anti-establishment mindset.
Some believe big pharma and insurance are colluding to not only rip us off but to make us sick and dependent on their products while suppressing cheaper remedies.
Chicken soup for small pox, anyone?
republianmushroom
(17,652 posts)magicarpet
(16,521 posts)... or is it expected to take some time?
(Rhetorically speaking).
TheKentuckian
(26,253 posts)does not automatically translate to any aptitude or knowledge at all in another.
Your favorite architect may well be utterly lost doing the accounting and the accountant may be worthless for podiatry who couldn't program a computer to save their lives and the programmer struggles to change the oil on a car and the mechanic makes a lousy engineer.
Jit423
(296 posts)Jit423
(296 posts)For Federal agency? Some people could not get clearance of pass the Civil Service exam to get employment with the Federal government and despise the people who did.
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sinkingfeeling
(53,000 posts)covid epidemics.
Liberal In Texas
(14,497 posts)lapfog_1
(30,168 posts)SoCalDavidS
(10,599 posts)haele
(13,529 posts)Because he's going to go after Big Pharma, the Insurance Companies, and Big Factory Food/Agra companies that force us to eat GMOs and Junk Food.
Seriously. Theses aren't MAGA people, but they're just as dedicated to Fringe and Conspiracy thinking as RWNJs.
You know, these are lefties (not liberals) who bring cardboard tasting Soy, Kale and Pepitas casserole (base of oatmeal gruel) without even a decent pepper sauce to pour over to the company potluck while pretending they're good vegetarians who eat this at home all the time.
Disclaimer - The vegan dish was brought to the potluck by the disliked head of HR - an billboard "lefty" into CrossFit - and he snarled at everyone the next week because no one ate it after a taste; I remade it -still vegan -for the next potluck (adding home pickled artichoke hearts, sauteed mushrooms, citrus zest, balancing spices and a mild chili sauce) and it was gone in 5 minutes.
Remember, "Left" does not always mean Liberal or Progressive.
There are some pretty hardcore Lefties who are just as unwilling to accommodate other traditional Leftist policies because they don't fit in a narrowly focused Overton window.
Haele
Meowmee
(5,529 posts)and they think they have the right to expose all of us to their craziness and expose and kill us with the diseases/viruses/illness that will happen due to this insanity. They don't. A lot are on the left as well. Healthcare workers as well. In my county only 70% of hospital employees were vaccinated during the pandemic, and they were allowed to keep working, exposing patients to covid. They should have all been fired. Many did not wear masks properly and removed them. I saw this and have evidence of a lot of it in one nearby hospital.
This country is full to the brim of dangerous and crazy people.
kerouac2
(682 posts)And sadly, obviously do.
peregrinus
(230 posts)You wont be able to find a single person to admit they voted for Trump. Hell it might just be 6 months
Emile
(29,856 posts)didn't you hear about all those soldiers who bought into rightwing garbage and refused covid shots?
Emile
(29,856 posts)Vaccinations are mandatory for the health of the force. Overseas deployment requires many vaccinations.
usonian
(13,861 posts)Forever.
Not a peep since.