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gab13by13

(25,267 posts)
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:30 PM Nov 15

Matt Gaetz Wasn't Prosecuted By Garland

Just a heads up, the young girl involved with Gaetz, testified under oath to the House ethics committee this past April, that Gaetz had sex with her when she was 17.

Sex trafficking a minor carries a 10 year mandatory sentence.

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Matt Gaetz Wasn't Prosecuted By Garland (Original Post) gab13by13 Nov 15 OP
Garland is playing 3D chess which we are too stupid to understand. Irish_Dem Nov 15 #1
Seriously? SnoopDog Nov 15 #7
People don't always use the sarcasm tag FHRRK Nov 15 #8
I prefer the say what you mean and mean what you say... SnoopDog Nov 15 #9
Maybe because I am Irish FHRRK Nov 15 #11
I know, Jebus GD Crist. Irish_Dem Nov 15 #22
Garland is my highest deity and I bow before him. Irish_Dem Nov 15 #21
Yeah but you didn't use the sarcasm thingy BOSSHOG Nov 15 #28
I agree 100%. Irish_Dem Nov 15 #38
I use it here and there moniss Nov 15 #43
Hey, let me be the first to welcome you to the internet! Orrex Nov 15 #46
No, the poster did not need the sarcasm thingy. It was totally obvious it wAs sarcasm. NoRethugFriends Nov 16 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Nov 16 #48
45 months and counting of patient. republianmushroom Nov 15 #20
Even Mr Spock is in awe! dchill Nov 15 #25
More like Kinescope Bid Whist, if you ask me Montauk6 Nov 15 #30
Does that game take 100 years? Irish_Dem Nov 15 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 15 #32
Is it Fitzmas yet? montanacowboy Nov 15 #2
yep we fell for that one too. Irish_Dem Nov 15 #23
Glad someone else montanacowboy Nov 15 #27
Exactly like Fitzmas! Hope22 Nov 15 #36
Exactly. Irish_Dem Nov 15 #44
...or Mueller Time LudwigPastorius Nov 15 #45
Can't the minor file charges? crimycarny Nov 15 #3
Little Mattie montanacowboy Nov 15 #5
Gaetz has a rich influential daddy who is politically connected. Irish_Dem Nov 15 #26
if garland says there was no there there, i trust the biden appointee Groundhawg Nov 15 #4
Is this also sarcasm? nt SnoopDog Nov 15 #10
That Biden appointee shit all over Joe when he released the Hur report gab13by13 Nov 15 #18
Gaetz *was* investigated by DOJ Fiendish Thingy Nov 15 #6
The girl involved gab13by13 Nov 15 #13
and any mediocre defense hack would have torn stopdiggin Nov 15 #17
DOJ made the case with Marilyn Mosby spending her own money and her FA testifying he said her and her husband were in uponit7771 Nov 15 #29
Garland went hard as hell to get Hunter Biden, he's white. gab13by13 Nov 15 #35
It seems there are more people than me questioning Garland gab13by13 Nov 15 #31
of course that girl is not reliable. she was only 17 and how reliable can a 17 yr old's memory be? orleans Nov 15 #42
it kind of looks like it shook out that way - doesn't it ? stopdiggin Nov 16 #49
If that was the case he wouldn't have asked for a preemptive pardon from Trump regarding the sex-trafficking Galraedia Nov 15 #16
The southern fed. attorney wanted to have a good conviction percentage. republianmushroom Nov 15 #33
Ah, yes! - the old Garland the feckless, lazy (possibly corrupt) theme stopdiggin Nov 15 #12
and then of course we have Mikey Johnson stopdiggin Nov 15 #14
The DOJ Timewas Nov 15 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 15 #34
he was busy with Hunter Biden! Skittles Nov 15 #19
NOBODY was prosecuted by Garland... Jack Valentino Nov 15 #24
Hunter Biden was. gab13by13 Nov 15 #39
Garland prosecuted Hunter Biden though. onecaliberal Nov 15 #37
The narrative that we can't criticize Garland because Joe nominated him doesn't hold water gab13by13 Nov 15 #41
I Always Thought Garland Was Ineffectual... DET Nov 15 #47
Joe isn't in the business of ruining a person unless they fucking really have it coming. SoFlaBro Sunday #53
Enemies of the State LessAspin Nov 16 #50
garland is soon retiring to spend more time with his fat bank account MrWowWow Sunday #52
Yeah, I'm sorry I ever defended Garland Blue_Tires Sunday #54

SnoopDog

(2,469 posts)
7. Seriously?
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:46 PM
Nov 15

Garland is a republican or at least acts like it.

He literally let trump off the hook. garland is NO friend to our democracy...

SnoopDog

(2,469 posts)
9. I prefer the say what you mean and mean what you say...
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:51 PM
Nov 15

Garland is no friend to our democracy. If it was sarcasm, the poster should have included it.

Irish_Dem

(57,625 posts)
21. Garland is my highest deity and I bow before him.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:10 PM
Nov 15

I am sure with enough prayer, his wisdom will enlighten and engulf me with ecstasy.

Is this still too subtle?

Response to SnoopDog (Reply #7)

republianmushroom

(17,652 posts)
20. 45 months and counting of patient.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:05 PM
Nov 15

Sure looks like it will be 96 months and counting of patient or more. These kind of cases take a lot time to be brought out. I've been told.

No man is above the law. hahahah

Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #1)

montanacowboy

(6,303 posts)
27. Glad someone else
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:38 PM
Nov 15

remembers that fiasco; I used to wait every day for him to come out with something big and it was always a big nothingburger - we should be used to being played by now

Irish_Dem

(57,625 posts)
44. Exactly.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 11:21 PM
Nov 15

I remember the picture at the end of all of it, the players coming out of the courtroom or meeting place.
The looks on all their faces told the story.

I knew we had been fed a load of garbage at that moment.
It took awhile for others to realize we had been taken for a ride.

crimycarny

(1,627 posts)
3. Can't the minor file charges?
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:40 PM
Nov 15

I truly don’t understand how Matt Gaetz is immune from what is a crime. If nothing else couldn’t the local police in whatever state the minor lives in arrest him? How is this even possible that Gaetz gets away with sex trafficking???

I hope that the report gets leaked regardless.

montanacowboy

(6,303 posts)
5. Little Mattie
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:42 PM
Nov 15

has a BIG Daddy in Florida, seems he has been covering up Mattie's crimes for years and years, one crime after another

gab13by13

(25,267 posts)
18. That Biden appointee shit all over Joe when he released the Hur report
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:31 PM
Nov 15

that lied about Joe. Joe was so pissed that his White House counsel sent a blistering letter to Garland for the release of the lies.

Fiendish Thingy

(18,529 posts)
6. Gaetz *was* investigated by DOJ
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:43 PM
Nov 15

And the two witnesses were deemed not credible, and conviction unlikely, so, per longstanding DOJ procedure, no indictments were sought from the grand jury.

Nothing nefarious or “lazy” involved, just sadly how things sometimes shake out.

The burden of proof for internal congressional ethics investigations is much, much lower than criminal charges, I don’t even think cross examination of witnesses is allowed.

But you knew that.

gab13by13

(25,267 posts)
13. The girl involved
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:09 PM
Nov 15

Testified under oath that Gaetz had sex with her.

One of the witnesses was Gaetz buddy in crime, when he copped a plea and when he testified against his good buddy all of a sudden he became an unreliable witness.

stopdiggin

(12,832 posts)
17. and any mediocre defense hack would have torn
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:23 PM
Nov 15

these two 'witnesses' to shreds on the stand.
But, as stated prior - you already knew that.

uponit7771

(91,763 posts)
29. DOJ made the case with Marilyn Mosby spending her own money and her FA testifying he said her and her husband were in
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:39 PM
Nov 15

... the clear.

DOJ pushed for her to have 3 years of probation off a correspondence letter violation and fine from the IRS, when it comes to a woman of color the DOJ goes hard as hell

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/mosby-denied-for-second-time-request-to-modify-home-detention

gab13by13

(25,267 posts)
35. Garland went hard as hell to get Hunter Biden, he's white.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:45 PM
Nov 15

Garland prosecuted Hunter for a tax crime that is rarely prosecuted and Hunter paid what he owed, but tough as nails Garland made Weiss a special prosecutor so that he could take Hunter to court in California. Weiss asked Garland to make him a special prosecutor.

gab13by13

(25,267 posts)
31. It seems there are more people than me questioning Garland
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:41 PM
Nov 15

CREW has filed a suit against DOJ to release the evidence in the Gaetz investigation.

They would have had to tear 3 witnesses apart on the stand, you forgot the 17 year old girl. 3 witnesses against Gaetz. Maybe you didn't know the young girl testified under oath that Gaetz had sex with her when she was 17. Then again maybe she isn't a reliable witness either?

orleans

(34,973 posts)
42. of course that girl is not reliable. she was only 17 and how reliable can a 17 yr old's memory be?
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 11:00 PM
Nov 15

and if she didn't write about it in her journal then forget the whole thing

(obviously)

Galraedia

(5,174 posts)
16. If that was the case he wouldn't have asked for a preemptive pardon from Trump regarding the sex-trafficking
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:19 PM
Nov 15

investigation.

republianmushroom

(17,652 posts)
33. The southern fed. attorney wanted to have a good conviction percentage.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:42 PM
Nov 15

Red state Florida, daddy multi millionaire and trump supporter and little Gaetz a republican politician and the woman become "deemed not credible". A 17 teen girl not credible. Conviction percentage would go down if they lost the case.

Sure seems strange to me how many woman who claim sexual abuse or in a case against a so called reputable man of clot and good standing are so easily deemed as "not credible". Yet in this case it seems they may of been the creditable ones. and Gaetz was the not so credible one. But we will never know. White washed, very political and buried. Seems familiar.

One thing I have learn in life, is, if you don't try you will never succeed and it won't happen.

stopdiggin

(12,832 posts)
12. Ah, yes! - the old Garland the feckless, lazy (possibly corrupt) theme
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:01 PM
Nov 15

the gift that keeps on giving !

Can we play it again - please, Papa ?

stopdiggin

(12,832 posts)
14. and then of course we have Mikey Johnson
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:18 PM
Nov 15

our evangelical choirboy Speaker that has (conveniently) decided that the testimony and evidence gathered in congressional investigation is no longer of interest to the the public ...

But, of course - it's really about Garland!

Timewas

(2,291 posts)
15. The DOJ
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:19 PM
Nov 15

Spent the entire 4 years prosecuting Jan.6th and almost completely ignored the major shit. Foot dragging taken to the extreme.

Response to Timewas (Reply #15)

gab13by13

(25,267 posts)
39. Hunter Biden was.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:51 PM
Nov 15

Weiss didn't have jurisdiction to prosecute Hunter in California unless Garland made him a special prosecutor and Garland obliged him.

Trump claimed a 461 million dollar tax deduction on his Chicago tower during Covid, formed a holding company and double dipped on the deduction. Tax experts estimate that Trump scammed at least 100 million dollars. No investigation of that but he prosecuted Hunter who paid back what he owed.

gab13by13

(25,267 posts)
41. The narrative that we can't criticize Garland because Joe nominated him doesn't hold water
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:55 PM
Nov 15

after Garland released the Hur report. Joe was so furious that his White House counsel sent a blistering letter to Garland.

Garland had the nerve to release a report that called Joe old and forgetful. Nice friend, huh? Meanwhile Garland has not released the Mueller report yet.

DET

(1,691 posts)
47. I Always Thought Garland Was Ineffectual...
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 11:40 PM
Nov 15

…but an honorable man in the wrong position. It increasingly looks like I was wrong. I don’t fault Joe for appointing him, but I’m struggling to figure out why he kept him so long.

LessAspin

(1,410 posts)
50. Enemies of the State
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 10:34 PM
Nov 16

Merrick Garland by what you would have to surmise was an attempt to not appear to be 'political' let several GOP members of Congress off the hook.

So now we have a government run by racists, rapists, traitors... the absolute worst of the worst.

Kakistocracy indeed.

MrWowWow

(401 posts)
52. garland is soon retiring to spend more time with his fat bank account
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 12:09 AM
Sunday

Money doesn't just talk. It SCREAMS!

Blue_Tires

(55,848 posts)
54. Yeah, I'm sorry I ever defended Garland
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 12:31 AM
Sunday

I was trying so hard to give him the benefit of the doubt, telling myself that he was just doing all his real work behind the scenes 😔

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