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peregrinus

(230 posts)
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 05:36 AM Nov 16

When the Federal government starts falling apart

Around DC and the DMV. They’ll have to hire contractors. Those contractors will be the same Federal employees only they will be getting paid more. %50 more because the contractors will be charging the federal government more. Read this on the NoVa subreddit and apparently it’s what happened when Reagan fired everyone and W Bush fired everyone. Oh yeah, and those contractors got their jobs back eventually, they just waited until their old supervisors posted listings for those jobs and slid back in, because they would rather retire with government benefits. So that’s what I call Government Efficiency!

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FSogol

(46,525 posts)
4. Whether is comes from a subreddit or not, it is true that
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:51 AM
Nov 16

privatization costs more than government services because a private company wants to make a profit.

ThreeNoSeep

(171 posts)
8. This expectation that federal government is going to fall apart
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 02:37 PM
Nov 16

as soon as these fascists come into power is unrealistic. That's not how it has worked in other democracies that have slipped into fascism.
We have a long time of dealing with this problem, and I won't be surprised if we are still trying to move beyond this fall from our ideals even ten years from now. I'd be surprised if it was still going strong in 20 years, but we have a long time coming where things will be this bizarro Amerikkka crapola.
For example, Hitler came into power (became chancellor) in 1933. It was more than a decade before the fascist spasm cycled through German history. That chancellorship was five years before Krystallnacht occurred, six years before the invasion of Poland, and twelve years before the Bunker suicide.
Fascists are pretty good at keeping things going.
I'm just some shmoe on a DU thread, so if a summary of a Reddit post reassures you that these fascist yahoos are going to fall off a cliff soon after January 20th, then keep telling yourself that.
Reddit could be true, and history could be wrong.
As for me, I'm hunkering down for the long game.

FSogol

(46,525 posts)
5. Whether is comes from a subreddit or not, it is true that
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:51 AM
Nov 16

privatization costs more than government services because a private company wants to make a profit.

Jit423

(296 posts)
3. The Federal workforce is large and in most cases is needed to run the government for the millions of citizens we have.
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:26 AM
Nov 16

Wingers seem to forget that their neighbors, family, and some of their friends are Federal workers. They in your neighborhoods and keep most of your local small businesses afloat as well as paying taxes for your roads, public and private transportation, and other services.
When the Federal workforce is cut as being proposed, it only means that those jobs will be filled by outside contractors employed by the businesses and corporations who will be taking more of your taxes to merely fill their own pockets and retirement plans. In previous cuts, many Federal workers were asked to retire with incentive payouts of $25K OR more, depending on the working level of the employee. Many took the money and then signed up with the contractors that they had to train to do the work. The main thing that happens is that the former Federal employees lose their status for long-term Federal retirement benefits.

Mike 03

(16,832 posts)
6. I can't stop ruminating about FEMA and disaster response
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:52 AM
Nov 16

If they cut FEMA or fill it with idiots, or simply decide it's not the government's responsibility to respond to things like hurricanes, tornados and wildfires, that will exponentially increase the anxiety many of us already have about climate. We have numerous disasters every year. It's not some rare thing anymore. And disaster response under his first term ranged from feeble to negligent to non-existent.

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