I'm 16. On Nov. 5 the Girls Cried, and the Boys Played Minecraft.

[Lonestarblue]

This election, voters sent many messages, but perhaps one of the most disturbing is to young women that their lives and futures simply don’t matter. This election was all about men and boys and how they needed strong models of masculinity because young white men are being left behind. Girls and women, according to Vance and other Republican candidates, were destined only for motherhood. They should just forget their dreams for careers and economic independence.

“Eight years ago, I was too young to feel the full force of Hillary Clinton’s loss. Now at 16, I’ve had the wind knocked out of me. On Wednesday, I was flush with anger — but it was diluted by an even stronger feeling: defeat. I saw it in the eyes of women in my subway car that morning. I saw it in the barista at the coffee shop on the corner, the female security guard at my school and in the face of my history teacher.

In a terrible way, I’ve never felt more part of a sisterhood or more certain that pain is shared within that family. I wish the consequences of this moment for young women punctured the apparent indifference of so many men and boys I saw that day. I wish they could breathe in what the women and girls I know have been inhaling since Nov. 5.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/16/opinion/donald-trump-women-girls.html?unlocked_article_code=1.aU4.pF_7.2i0dKLnycjhQ&smid=url-share

[Timeflyer]

1. Women now live in an occupied country--Man Land. They need us for reproduction, but deep in their primitive minds,

they don't really believe we're equal. And we must live among them, and accommodate them, but can never completely trust that they won't harm us if it keeps them dominate.

Sorry this is so dark. Worked hard for Kamala's campaign, tired and discouraged.

[2naSalit]

2. What it's coming to...

[Nimble_Idea]

3. but the majorty of white women voted for tsf

so there's that.

[Lonestarblue]

4. Women can be just as misogynistic as men.

Too many women, especially those in religious cults, are brainwashed to believe that only men have the brains and the authority to be leaders.

[Ursus Arctos]

20. Yes. This and also,

in a sense, these women are voting for their "best interest" in terms of avoiding the perceived threat and punishment incurred by pushing back against the patriarchy.

[lostnfound]

19. Does anyone have access to UNADJUSTED exit polls? I sure don't. Only ADJUSTED polls are published

When i was a kid, the TV showed the actual exit polls as they came in. They basically never varied from the election outcomes.

Funny thing is that starting around 2000, that changed. The exit polls became farther off from election results with every election. For one election you could click a button and see the unadjusted results or the adjusted results. Now, you have to pay money to see the unadjusted numbers.

Instead they pretend that the most important function of exit polls is…wait for it — to understand what motivated the voting choices of different identity groups.

[Ocelot II]

5. That's one of the saddest things I've read in a long time.

That last glass ceiling is just as intact as ever, and that girl and all women were just reminded that no, actually, you can't do everything. When I was 16 my future was supposed to be a few years working as a nurse or a secretary or an elementary school teacher, followed by marriage and children. But the women's movement was just getting going and I saw a different future; I went to college and ended up working in two different male-dominated professions. I'm retired now, old enough that I'll never see a woman president, as this election showed me. The young author of this excellent, heartbreaking piece might not, either. Those kids just got set back 50 years.

[Walleye]

6. I heard one of these Incel Podcasters bragging about how the men had won

He didn’t say what they had won. He was so obnoxious I’m sure he never gets laid and it wasn’t the men that won. It was the boys. I hope they will enjoy each other because we won’t have anything to do with them.

[Irish_Dem]

8. The US has become Lord of the Flies.

All the boys acting out in mean and violent ways.

Then wonder why women don't like them.

[Walleye]

13. The sick thing is, I don't think they want women to like them. They want to force themselves on women.

Rapists don’t really want consensual sex. They crave power to force people to do things against their will. That’s who’s in charge now.

[Irish_Dem]

21. Good point.

They just want some things from women.
Liking or loving doesn't isn't on the list.

Yes rape is about power, control, domination, humiliation, terror.

[Stargleamer]

32. . . .and also about objectification n/t

[Irish_Dem]

33. Women are property. Not people.

Like slaves.

[hatrack]

30. "President Beelzebub" - I really like the sound of that!

.

[JanMichael]

15. Nude, greco roman, wrestling in their future.

Have fun boys!

[Walleye]

16. Well, I would watch that

[travelingthrulife]

7. I remember very clearly when young white males declared they 'didn't need no

stinking education'. They walked away from it and the better jobs that usually came from advanced education. Others who wanted to be educated stepped up to the plate.

Either way, NOTHING was taken away from these crybabies.

[Lonestarblue]

9. There is one way that I agree that education has failed young men, and women.

That is a path and organized education for those who want to pursue a trade instead of college. Many high schools abandoned shop classes years ago and some trades schools no longer exist. We need a system similar to those in many European nations that offer both a college and a trades path.

[travelingthrulife]

18. I agree, but those things have failed us equally. It didn't just happen to them.

[Ursus Arctos]

24. I agree with the benefits of trades education.

What enrages me is that the right has vilified and demonized higher education with increasing fervor over the last 10+ years. The result is fewer white males attending college--even community colleges where trades education is still available and affordable. Then, they turn around and, with a lift from the media, blame Democrats for "leaving young men behind."

[Easterncedar]

26. In Maine the trade schools have been boosted by our Dem governor

Programs including fully free tuition at what used to be called vo-tech, then community, colleges have been implemented and rules have been changed to allow shop teachers to come from the licensed trades, too.

Democrats here still hold both houses of the legislature and the governor’s office, so good things are still possible!

[zorbasd]

28. Yeah, what was taken away from men

was taken away from the very same party they voted for last week. The Republican effert to gut Americam manufacturing might, which was enthusiastically transfered to Asia, starting in the 80's, was the greatest betrayal of the millionaire class, now the billionaire class. That devastated men who where going into vocational careers.

[BComplex]

10. I'm sorry, but I just DO NOT BELIEVE the bullshit about trump winning the election. I myself saw a white red neck dude

bring in one of the Latinos who work on a local farm to the polling place. He spoke spanish, at first, to the worker and told him who to vote for, but then the latino dude started asking him questions in english. The red neck told him how to mark every race, and it was all for republicans. Then he came to the county commissioner. The red neck said to vote for the democrat (who I know), and the latino dude says "but I thought you said to vote for all republicans"! The red neck dude said, "yeah, we did, but I know this guy: he's a friend of mine, so we'll vote for just this one".

I reported that to the poll worker in charge (a republican woman), and she smiled really big and said "well, he filled out the proper paperwork, so it's legal, but thanks for reporting it!".

There were all manner of republican TRICKS that were pulled off for this election, but the bottom line is, Harris/Walz WON, and everyone is falling for the news that is more toxic and widespread than covid.

[peregrinus]

27. I think in the 4 years that Trump was running

He got his army of flying monkeys to find right wing judges to appoint Trump supporters to county election boards. Of course I can’t prove it but I also ran into an issue and reported to the chairperson of the county board and that person got hostile with me for reporting the issue. She claimed to be a Democrat.

[niyad]

11. Heartbreaking piece, and I thank you for sharing it.

One minor quibble, nyt.. The day after the election was Nov. 6.

[iluvtennis]

12. Great perspective from this 16-year old young woman. n/t

[masmdu]

14. Um, woman.

[iluvtennis]

17. oopsie, my bad. (corrected it). n/t

[intheflow]

22. Not sure what the original post said,

but referring to 16-year-old girls as women kinda legitimizes Matt Gaetz sleeping with a 17 year old. **A minor is not a woman.** Young adult would be a more apt term.

[NNadir]

23. The sanewashing New York Times sent many messages, that contempt for Democracy would be just fine.

They pooh-poohed the destruction of the US Constitution.

[maxrandb]

25. It's been the Retrumplican way for a century

Convince a group of people that the only way they can get ahead is to tear another group down.

In my nearly 30 years in the Navy, we used to say those people were they one's that "could only make themselves look good, by making someone else look bad".

We were taught that was the absolute worse way to conduct yourself.

One of the great lessons I learned was about pronouns.

When my Department did something well, you used the pronouns "we, us, and our". When we screwed something up, you used the pronouns "I, me and my".

Everything I have learned my entire life has been invalidated.

[synni]

29. Women have triumphed before

And we will triumph again.

People need to stop being whiny losers, and start to push back like our mothers, grandmothers, and great-grandmothers did.

A handful of politicians and the incels from 4chan can't stop progress...they can only delay it temporarily.

My reply to anyone who posts here to argue with me: Quit whining and start working. 2026 will be here before you know it.

[republianmushroom]

31. Well ?

45% of women voted for Trump.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19727435

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0lp48ldgyeo

[Number9Dream]

34. In 2016, 53% of white women voted for trump - guessing similar for 2024

Plenty of blame enough for both genders.