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AdamGG

(1,598 posts)
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 01:45 PM Nov 2024

The margin for the Pennsylvania Senate seat is now under 22,000 votes (0.31%)

Does anyone know what the greatest number of votes that has been made up in a recount is? 22,000 isn't that many out of a total of over 6.8 million that were cast, but it still seems like a lot of ballots to change.

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The margin for the Pennsylvania Senate seat is now under 22,000 votes (0.31%) (Original Post) AdamGG Nov 2024 OP
Anything more than 1,000 is pretty much impossible Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #1
Steve Kornaki would say gab13by13 Nov 2024 #2
My qualifier is "If all the votes are in" and we're talking purely about recount Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #3
The count continues Tweedy Nov 2024 #4

Prairie Gates

(4,071 posts)
1. Anything more than 1,000 is pretty much impossible
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 01:51 PM
Nov 2024

If all the votes are in and he's down 22,000 votes then he has lost.

gab13by13

(26,393 posts)
2. Steve Kornaki would say
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 02:15 PM
Nov 2024

where are the remaining ballots from? If they are mostly from Philly which is over 70% for Democrats, it can be close.

Prairie Gates

(4,071 posts)
3. My qualifier is "If all the votes are in" and we're talking purely about recount
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 02:35 PM
Nov 2024

Which was the premise of the OP. If there's some large numbers of vote uncounted yet, that's another matter. But if we're talking pure recount, a 1,000 vote shift is really the upper limit, and I'd say anything over 500 is unlikely.

No recount in history has reversed a 22,000 vote deficit, and it's unlikely that any has undone even 10% of that.

Tweedy

(1,277 posts)
4. The count continues
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 02:36 PM
Nov 2024

Senator Casey is not alleging fraud. He is seeking a full count.

The republicans are arguing against counting votes that are missing a date on the envelope even though it is obvious to everyone with a brain that the votes were mailed on time. The republicans also want to exclude votes cast by voters in the wrong precinct. The PA GOP claims those votes cannot be proven, which argument is silly on its face.

So what a voter voted in the wrong precinct? This is a statewide race.

Basically, the AP called the race too soon (& has now backtracked) and the GOP wants all counting to stop yesterday while throwing out obviously legitimate votes.

There is nothing new here that the GOP did not pull against Al Franken. The only difference is a ton of our press and some democrats seem intent on accepting bad faith arguments from the GOP.

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