There was difficulty linking to an important Daily Kos article this morning...

[Think. Again.]

...and I even had difficulty sourcing the original article from Archive, but I have finally been successful getting that non-paywall link.

Here it is:

Rigged? Computer Security Experts In Dual "Duty To Warn Letters" Urge Harris To Demand Hand Recount
by Kevin McKinney

Saturday, Nov. 16, 2024 12:09:45am PST

https://archive.is/YXLVg

[Ford_Prefect]

1. Shades of 2000! The Senate, House, and state legislature results don't agree with the presidential

In a number of states.
Things that make you go hmmm?

[Think. Again.]

4. The LAST thing I want to see is we Dems just throwing up our hands and walking away like we did in 2000.

[ShazzieB]

26. +1000!

[bdamomma]

30. Yea,

let's not do that. We will be like Argentina, if we continue to let things slide. Just my opinion.

[Sogo]

2. How do we communicate to Kamala to follow through on this?

I donated until it hurt for this election....I want her to pursue this!!!!

How do we communicate this desire to her?

[Think. Again.]

3. I think very loud, very public discussion (like this here on DU and other social media)...

...and we can always write tons of emails directly to her campaign, and even the Biden/Harris Whitehouse account.

But this is urgent, so I think lots of social media attention would probably be most effective.

[Sogo]

5. Do you know those email addresses? Will you post them, please?

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7. Here's two...

VP Harris at the Whitehouse:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/vicepresident/

Contact the Harris/Walz campaign:
https://kamalaharris.com/contact-us/

[David Boyle]

10. I hear there's a great post with some of those addresses!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219730328

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18. Thanks!

[japple]

16. If you have good reps in the house and Senate, send them an email. They are

very easy to do.

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20. Good thought!

[Silent Type]

6. Think 600K bullet votes is a fabrication. And Snopes says Starlink wasn't news.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/musk-starlink-2024-election/

[Think. Again.]

11. I'm not sure the starlink connection being news is the issue...

...I believe that the connection of musk's company to official election processes is the issue whether some people knew about it or not.

I also think the 600,000 number HAS to be an estimate, becuase we wouldn't know that final number until recount verifications were done, which is what is only now being called for.

[Linda ladeewolf]

12. If I remember correctly

Snopes is at least partly owned by right wingers. They mostly tell the truth, but I wouldn’t bet my life on it. Might want to check out who owns it.

[nmmi]

8. Bradblog.com / Bradcast (Brad Friedman) has picked this up too

https://bradblog.com/?p=15232

[Silent Type]

9. DailyKos and Brad somebody? Not my gotos for truth. When Harris, Biden, Democratic governors, etc., join

I’m all then. Until then, I’m skeptical.

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13. Let's hope the letter to Harris works then!

[nmmi]

23. Fine, I'm skeptical too. I have listened to a lot of Brad - he was on when I did my jogging a couple of years ago

Last edited Sat Nov 16, 2024, 08:06 PM - Edit history (1)

and he seemed to stick to factual stories (they also appeared in mainstream media too) and not chase conspiracy theories, or speculating.

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35. Thanks, if any of this is true, we need to be sure it's being covered by legitimate people.

[questionseverything]

44. Al franken called him , "this guy named brad"

[markodochartaigh]

22. Brad Friedman is great.

He has been covering the Coffee County Georgia scandal since the beginning. His Bradcast is on Progressive Voices and many radio stations.

[questionseverything]

28. Brad says coffee county never applied the patch needed after those repubs broke in and copied everything

[Silent Type]

33. The Coffee county "breach" was in 2020. Those rubes had no idea what they were doing and

the software was changed for 2022 and 2024. Obfuscation is what I expect from the other side, not ours.

[markodochartaigh]

39. I would hardy call the exposure

of a plot that successfully compromised the integrity of voting machines obfuscation.
And Raffensperger refused "to make changes and fix a documented issue with the voting machines."

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/23/brad-raffensperger-georgia-dominion-voting-00103298

[Silent Type]

40. 4 years ago, misinformation would be charitable.

[markodochartaigh]

41. 4 years ago was the last presidential election.

Hardly ancient history.

[Silent Type]

42. And software has been changed since. So, it is ancient history.

[markodochartaigh]

43. No. If one reads the Politico article

it says that the software has not been changed. And whether or not the software has been changed, there is still the issue that local Republican party officials (no both sides here) illegally accessed, stole, and compromised voting software.

[Silent Type]

46. Elon Musk was promoting same conspiracy theory right up to Nov 5th.

[markodochartaigh]

47. I suppose that Musk would also

say that 1+1=2. Even a stopped clock is correct twice a day. Are you saying that everything that Musk has ever said is incorrect?

[Silent Type]

49. No, I'm saying some of you have changed your tune on his allegations and so did Musk when trump won.

[markodochartaigh]

50. "You"? I haven't changed my opinion

about the Coffee County theft since I first heard about it more than a year ago on Brad Friedman's excellent show.

As for what Musk says, I haven't heard him say anything about the theft, and I really don't care what he thinks about it.

[questionseverything]

45. Brad's 5-10-23 article says, fixes won't be installed until after 2024 election

[nmmi]

31. And Tina Peters, Colorado election official who got 9 years for allowing unauthorized access and tampering

Last edited Sat Nov 16, 2024, 08:03 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr75mpkm7nro

Edit to add Yes, this is a 2020 election story just so I don't get accused of "obfuscating",

[Emrys]

14. Are there any clues as to why this article "disappeared" from Kos and search engines etc.?

When folks were having problems finding it, I did my own search on Kos and found only an article from yesterday from Bradblog with a similar title that covered a fair bit of the same ground, but no sign of the article linked in the OP.

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15. I have no idea why it was so difficult to find earlier today...

It was only later this afternoon that I was even able to archive it on archive.is (even archiving it didn't work for hours) and then link to it here: https://archive.is/YXLVg

That just adds to the suspicions of foul-play as far as I'm concerned.

[Emrys]

17. I wasn't necessarily looking to fuel conspiracy theories (who knows? they may be well founded)

I haven't visited Kos much at all over the years (never got on with their interface, it's always seemed very cliquey, and anything important posted there tends to find its way onto DU anyway), so I just wondered whether posts there just going *POOF* was a normal occurrence.

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19. At first I thought it was just blocked to non-subscribers of Kos (I don't subscribe)...

But the difficulty I had earlier today trying to archive it on archive.is (I've never had any dificulty like that before) started to set off alarms bells for me.

[questionseverything]

29. Brad blog actually has much more in depth info than the kos article

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36. Here's a link to the BradBlog coverage...

https://bradblog.com/?p=15232

[Ford_Prefect]

21. The Article is posted here on Daily KOS. A PDF of the Letter which was sent on the 13th is below as well.

Article: https://www.dailykos.com/story/2024/11/14/2286362/-Computer-Sec-Experts-Ask-Harris-to-Seek-Hand-Counts-After-Vote-System-Breaches-BradCast-11-14-24

Letter PDF: https://bradblog.com/Docs/letter-to-vp-harris-111324.pdf

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25. Thanks !

Looks like they fixed whatever the problem was!

[Emrys]

53. That's the different article I said upthread that I'd found searching on Kos

That link's to the Bradblog article, the one in your OP's by Kevin McKinney.

[AllyCat]

24. Thank you.

Important. Something is wrong. How was there “record turnout!” “record new registrations!” and then FEWER votes overall?

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27. I agree, there's to much craziness in what should be a very straightforward voting and counting process...

....hopefully these calls to do some serious deep-checking of everything will be heard, and acted on.

[usonian]

32. There is another thread about this.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219692792

I posted link updates there.


To wit:

Beyond Highbrow reports (from an archived post that bypasses the substack paywall)
https://archive.ph/jQb34#selection-629.0-629.181

Preliminary Results Indicates Suspicion of Yet Another Republican Stolen Election Via Voting Machines Via 6.6 Point Anomaly; Evidence of Republican Election Theft in Prior Elections

Introduction: My conclusion as of 1:40 AM November 10, 2024 is that the “12 million Democrats stayed home” theory is demonstrably false.

If that’s true then the only possible conclusion is that there was massive Republican election fraud via voting machines in this election. I conclude that Kamala Harris won the popular vote.

more at the link.

A link in the OP to Steven Spoonamore's spoutible account is not working, but his thread is here:
https://spoutible.com/Spoonamore

Also, he is still up on twitler, and the threads are visible.

https://x.com/Spoonamore

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37. Thank you! The more info and coverage this gets, the better!

[proud patriot]

34. I sure hope the pa recount will trigger more

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38. Yes, I really don't want to see this swept under the rug...

...if there WAS anything illicit going on, we need to know about in time to correct it before December 11!

[Jack Valentino]

48. Daily Kos staff obviously killed the post as "violating rules against conspiracy theories"....

but I read your internet archive link, and it is disturbing.


I have been pushing back against the position that this election was stolen--
but now I'm not so sure about that....

I always did think that the 2004 election was stolen, and that Kerry actually won Ohio,
but there was a lot of vote-switching done by the machines...

Ironically, it was Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s article in Rolling Stone which proved the case to me--
outlining the fact that a far-left Ohio Supreme Court candidate actually out-polled John Kerry
in 10 southern Ohio counties in the "official" results-- an unheard-of anomily
which supposes that many voters chose Bush,
and then voted for a far-left Supreme Court candidate...

Thanks for posting this. I now support a recount.
I'm not saying that I believe that this election was stolen--

I would just like to be satisfied that the "results" are the actual TRUTH.

[Think. Again.]

51. I believe Daily Kos has it up live now though, so it probably wasn't "killed" by them.

You can now find the article on the Daily Kos website here:

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2024/11/14/2286362/-Computer-Sec-Experts-Ask-Harris-to-Seek-Hand-Counts-After-Vote-System-Breaches-BradCast-11-14-24

[Jack Valentino]

54. That's a different diary on the same topic. They DID kill

the original diary.

Thanks.

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55. I wonder why? Copyright issues maybe?

[Jack Valentino]

58. NOOOOOO--- because DK has strict rules against "conspiracy theories", and

'election denial' is considered to be one of those....

even if Democrats do it--- they don't want their site to be comparable to all the right-wing sites who denied the results of the 2020 election....


That is why that first story was removed--- I am a longtime member there, I know their mindset.

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59. So by re-writing the post, they were able to bypass that somehow?

Whatever, at least we were able to get the letters out to the public.

[Sogo]

52. This also needs to be communicated to Marc Elias....

According to this video, he doesn't believe there was any fraud in the election.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/132249283

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56. Yes, the video shows that Elias is very concerned that we don't do what rightwingers did in 2020.

Which I agree with, but that still leaves all the questions that are raised in the two separate 'Duty to Warn' letters unanswered.

[babsbunny]

57. We have everything to loose

So, we have to fight like hell!!!! We are fighting the enemy of the United States of America!