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angrychair

(10,142 posts)
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 09:55 PM Nov 2024

Texas bill would require genetic testing

New Texas bill, HB1123, would require all high school athletes do genetic testing to prove their sexuality before being allowed to participate in sports.

So you're telling me the same state of people that wouldn't wear a "government mandated mask" on their face, is going to let their children under go government mandated genetic testing?!?!

(b) A student may not compete in an interscholastic athletic
competition designated for a particular biological sex if the
student's chromosomal sex does not match the biological sex
assigned at birth as described in subsection (a). This
determination shall be made based on clinical evidence, including
genetic testing results provided by a licensed medical professional
under Section 33.098.


https://legiscan.com/TX/text/HB1123/2025
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Texas bill would require genetic testing (Original Post) angrychair Nov 2024 OP
I suppose that will keep Ted Cruz from having to look in everyone's underwear surfered Nov 2024 #1
Ew MustLoveBeagles Nov 2024 #2
Is THAT what he did in Cancun? I had no idea........ AZ8theist Nov 2024 #7
Gov Abbott will appoint him Bathroom Czar surfered Nov 2024 #17
Does that involve a panel of ordained Fundamentalist pastors peeking in the kiddies' undies? Montauk6 Nov 2024 #3
(they might have some priests volunteer........) lastlib Nov 2024 #10
Them too! Montauk6 Nov 2024 #21
From the so-called "Party of Individual Freedom" Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #4
What a bunch of idiots. Maraya1969 Nov 2024 #5
I guess they can repurpose all the obgyn offices into UpInArms Nov 2024 #6
And then they'll sell the test results to some data collection firm. PeaceWave Nov 2024 #8
Parents might want to think about their child's DNA being in a database available to law enforcement. Lonestarblue Nov 2024 #28
Genetics is not my forte. Help me out. Does every manifestation of gender dysphoria show up in genetic tests? Nt albacore Nov 2024 #9
Genetic testing can identify, via the X and Y chromosomes, wnylib Nov 2024 #16
This is reality-based, so will be rejected by Republicans and other ninnies. yardwork Nov 2024 #19
An argument can be made angrychair Nov 2024 #22
No. None do. And genes do are not the be-all determination of gender. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2024 #23
There's a bumper sticker opportunity here. LudwigPastorius Nov 2024 #11
Why the fuck are they so hung up on the whole trans thing? MAGA is such a shitty collection of fuckstains. SoFlaBro Nov 2024 #12
Because less than 1% of the population is easy to villanize. haele Nov 2024 #13
Maybe they will put those kids in their spanking new concentration camps travelingthrulife Nov 2024 #18
I'm suspecting that the % is actually lower than 1%. In any event, these people are obsessed w/ prying into other SWBTATTReg Nov 2024 #26
They are obsessed with the genitals of children. MAGA is a perverted pack of pissy pedophiles. SoFlaBro Nov 2024 #29
because they know giving their base people to hate WORKS Skittles Nov 2024 #30
The Texas trans issue is because a gop politician's child is transgendered MagickMuffin Nov 2024 #31
I read an article . . . AverageOldGuy Nov 2024 #14
I'm assuming it's 2 boys too many Tickle Nov 2024 #15
Just another fake problem hyped to get people upset yardwork Nov 2024 #20
Unfortunately angrychair Nov 2024 #24
Then the genetic material can be shared bronxiteforever Nov 2024 #25
"Small government" at its finest. City Lights Nov 2024 #27
Not only is this hateful transphobic bigotry LostOne4Ever Nov 2024 #32

Montauk6

(8,850 posts)
3. Does that involve a panel of ordained Fundamentalist pastors peeking in the kiddies' undies?
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 10:25 PM
Nov 2024

Lonestarblue

(12,235 posts)
28. Parents might want to think about their child's DNA being in a database available to law enforcement.
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 03:55 PM
Nov 2024

DNA of a relative can be used to track down criminals. Or if a son rapes a girl, his DNA is already on file.

albacore

(2,659 posts)
9. Genetics is not my forte. Help me out. Does every manifestation of gender dysphoria show up in genetic tests? Nt
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 12:05 AM
Nov 2024

wnylib

(25,183 posts)
16. Genetic testing can identify, via the X and Y chromosomes,
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 05:25 AM
Nov 2024

what a person's assigned identity at birth was. Therefore, a trans woman would be identified in DNA testing as a man.

Males usually have XY chromosomes and females have XX chromosomes.

But, DNA is not always so clear cut. Sometimes, a baby that appears to be a male at birth has an extra X chromosome that would show up as XXY. Sometimes a baby that appears to be a female at birth has undescended testes instead of ovaries and no penis. Development of a male in the mother's uterus was incomplete. They do not discover this until puberty and adolescence when their body does not develop a female form and they do not start having menstrual periods.

Even among people who have the XX or XY chromosomes to identify them as male or female, the levels of male or female hormones can vary.

I overheard an interview on NPR at the time of the Olympics in which people discussed options for future Olympic athletes. One person suggested eliminating the male/female categories completely and using hormone ranges to establish competition categories. Another person suggested keeping the male/female categories but using hormone levels and body development (muscle strength, height, weight, etc.) to establish competition categories.

yardwork

(65,449 posts)
19. This is reality-based, so will be rejected by Republicans and other ninnies.
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 09:33 AM
Nov 2024

One would think there was an army of trans people taking over athletics - which, after all, is as close to religion as most Americans get.

The fact that not everybody fits into the Republicans' "beautiful" binary male/female world just doesn't compute. Jesus made Adam and Eve - it says so in the children's bible stories my dentist had in his waiting room.

Trump's appeal is that he gives people permission to reject the complexities of real life and retreat into a permanent toddler stage.

angrychair

(10,142 posts)
22. An argument can be made
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 02:15 PM
Nov 2024

That this is a precursor to eugenics where the government gets to decide if your child are fit to participate in society.

For some reason that didn't occur to me until I saw your breakdown to all the exceptions to the supposed "rules".

This is actually much scarier now.

SoFlaBro

(3,416 posts)
12. Why the fuck are they so hung up on the whole trans thing? MAGA is such a shitty collection of fuckstains.
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 12:21 AM
Nov 2024

haele

(13,876 posts)
13. Because less than 1% of the population is easy to villanize.
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 12:35 AM
Nov 2024

Especially if it's made out to be a perversion.

I'm wondering what Texas is going to do about XXY and XYY kids. Especially if their genitalia doesn't present in line with the extra chromosome. Or heck, what to do with "normal" XX/XY kids if their genitalia doesn't present the same as their chromosomes.

I wouldn't put it past the state to sterilize them along with forbidding them to get into sports.

Haele

travelingthrulife

(1,530 posts)
18. Maybe they will put those kids in their spanking new concentration camps
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 09:27 AM
Nov 2024

at the border.

This will be fabulously expensive. Hope it is just Texas paying for this monstrous idea.

SWBTATTReg

(24,780 posts)
26. I'm suspecting that the % is actually lower than 1%. In any event, these people are obsessed w/ prying into other
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 03:33 PM
Nov 2024

people's lives. Makes me kind of wonder why...do they have some sort of weird (and sick) sexual obsession? Pathetic.

As of 2022, estimates for the total percentage of U.S. adults that are transgender or nonbinary range from 0.5% to 1.6%. Additionally, a Pew Research survey from 2022 found that approximately 5% of young adults in the U.S. say their gender is different from their sex assigned at birth.

SoFlaBro

(3,416 posts)
29. They are obsessed with the genitals of children. MAGA is a perverted pack of pissy pedophiles.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:42 AM
Nov 2024

Skittles

(161,795 posts)
30. because they know giving their base people to hate WORKS
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:52 AM
Nov 2024

you know, climate change and the war on women, that's OK BUT OMFG TRANS PEOPLE ON THE WRONG SPORTS TEAMS!

MagickMuffin

(17,374 posts)
31. The Texas trans issue is because a gop politician's child is transgendered
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:57 AM
Nov 2024


https://www.texastribune.org/2022/03/14/jeff-younger-transgender-care-house/


This is the same reason Muskrat is against transgendered people, one of his children transgendered.


So, apparently attack everyone and anyone.

AverageOldGuy

(2,460 posts)
14. I read an article . . .
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 12:57 AM
Nov 2024

. . . a week ago about a reporter in Michigan who contacted the state high school sports association and asked about "boys playing girls' sports."

Turns out that in the entire state of Michigan, there are TWO boys playing on girls' teams.

There are over 400 girls playing on boys' teams, including 198 playing football.

I'm confused.

Tickle

(3,504 posts)
15. I'm assuming it's 2 boys too many
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 04:52 AM
Nov 2024

Not confusing but interesting. tRump ran on getting trans out of female sports so I'm not surprised

yardwork

(65,449 posts)
20. Just another fake problem hyped to get people upset
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 09:35 AM
Nov 2024

The Republican Party's only real strategy for getting out the vote. Apparently it works very well.

angrychair

(10,142 posts)
24. Unfortunately
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 02:22 PM
Nov 2024

Not a fake problem but a very real one.
Once I was reminded of all the possibilities for variations from the "rules" it became clear that this is little different than eugenics. They want to use human genetics to determine someone's fitness to participate in society. This is a very scary development.

bronxiteforever

(9,932 posts)
25. Then the genetic material can be shared
Sun Nov 17, 2024, 03:16 PM
Nov 2024

with health insurance companies(for a fee) to deny coverage to those who have preexisting conditions when the healthcare laws are repealed. The Texas GOP can then grift with kickbacks. It is a win-win.

LostOne4Ever

(9,618 posts)
32. Not only is this hateful transphobic bigotry
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 01:41 AM
Nov 2024

But it is going to hurt intersex cis children too!

I FUCKING HATE REPUBLICANS!!!

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