Consider this: Joe & Mika have self-destructed *

[no_hypocrisy]

by aligning themselves with TSF. You can't be in the middle and claim you're being journalists. I say that because there's no way they can continue to have guests like Eugene Robinson and Al Sharpton tearing the Felon a new one every morning. TSF will send a message to cut it out.

They're now FOX Lite.

* I don't care whether Joe or Mika had an "epiphany" or the corporates at MSNBC told them to do it. If the latter, they should have resigned.

[Bluetus]

1. "They're now FOX Lite." They always were

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Nothing new or surprising here. Watch any evening in the past 8 years, if you have time and brain cells to burn. It will be little more than a steady stream of Trump speeches and citations and commentary. MSNBC may be Trump's biggest enabler because they normalized him with the audience that would have been the most inclined to oppose him.

Of course, they positioned themselves as the ones wagging the finger at Trump. Nonetheless, they gave Trump 10X more coverage than Biden or anybody else. Maybe 100X more coverage -- I don't know, I stopped watching that Comcast garbage a long time ago.

[ancianita]

5. Yep, they always played to where they thought the political power was. Good riddance to profit seeking equivocators.

[synni]

72. I argued with Keith Olbermann about Comcast

Years ago, he was posting on Daily Kos. When Comcast took over, I predicted MSNBC would take a turn to the right, and his job would be in peril.

I was excited when he personally replied to my post; I watched his show religiously. He replied to me that (because Countdown was MSNBC's #1 show at the time) his job wasn't in jeopardy, because Comcast was in it for the money.

I told him that, no, these RW companies were out to control the narrative, even if they had to lose money in the process.

I was right. I, a high-school educated small-town woman, predicted something big that this Cornell-educated newsman didn't.

But I take no pleasure in my triumph in that argument. God, how I wish I had been wrong.

[surfered]

2. They gave him airtime in 2016 for ratings. Now, maybe they just don't want to be sent off to a re-education camp.

[PortTack]

4. Don't f..ing care!

[CTyankee]

3. BIG mistake and your point is well taken! Eugene in particular must be shaking his head. He's a great guy.

I think Joe and Mika have made a huge blunder in their careers.

You know the old saying: "Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas."

[travelingthrulife]

73. Rather than risk being fired by Dictator Trump, they fired themselves.

Unregulated capitalism seems to rot some people's brains.

[haele]

6. They're saving their butts.

What would matter most to them and most of the mainstream punditry class? Name recognition and access to the national camera and best parties, or Journalistic Integrity?
Neither are really experianced journalists to begin with. She was closest, being an English Major (nothing wrong with that, just means she should know better).

Haele

[Deuxcents]

51. Saving their butts but not their reputation. Flip flopping again 😤

[snowybirdie]

78. Mika was

A reporter for CBS news 20 years ago. She should have known better

[hadEnuf]

7. They are now officially just another part of the right-wing Trump Wurlitzer.

They have made themselves irrelevant.

[BattleRow]

16. Worthlesstzer

[Maru Kitteh]

66. Nicely done there.

[Paul-EM]

8. hmm

The term "appeasement tour" comes to mind. Edit: To supplicate or not to supplicate....

[NewHendoLib]

9. I've never watched them and no idea why anyone does

Then again that's my view in TV in general

[ancianita]

11. Me, neither.

Once a Republican sellout, always a Republican sellout. "You will know them by their fruits. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit." Matthew 7:16-18

[gordianot]

10. I suspect they are hoping for a Tweetie moment.

Ole Tweety was hot to get a viral quote such as “women need to go to prison for abortion”. You get that orange dyed infant in front of a microphone anything is possible HREF’s also likes to insult people. Mika and Joe may be naive enough to think they are setting a trap.

[AZ8theist]

12. Morning Jerk Off can go fuck himself...

Not the least bit surprising he flip-flopped on the Treasonous pig.

Let's never forget, Jerk Off was PART OF THE PROBLEM in 2015. He had Dotard on his show practically every day. He kissed his ass relentlessly. He got married at Merde Lardo. He was a Dotard fan-boy until he wasn't. He realized what a disaster the treasonous liar is and always will be. Until now. Now he wants to kiss his ass again.

He is the ULTIMATE HYPOCRITE.

I never watch or listen to that asshole. NEVER.

[GoCubsGo]

75. Yup. Did people forget this rat-bastard's role in the Clinton impeachment?

That self-righteous motherfucker was one of the biggest finger-waggers in the lot of those witch hunters. He's nothing but an right-leaning, opportunist asshole.

[City Lights]

13. I dumped those two years ago and never looked back.

Joe has always been too sanctimonious for my taste.

Was Mika bleeding when she went to see Don this time around?

[bucolic_frolic]

14. They had a long run, but the game is up.

[alarimer]

15. Obeying in advance

They are trying to save their own skin. Currying favor with the potentate.

[LSparkle]

17. MSNBC is dead to me

Sorry Rachel that includes you. I also love Lawrence but I hope they both leave that cesspool behind and go do good work elsewhere.

[bdamomma]

41. Joy Reid

and Al Sharpton should leave too.

[AngryOldDem]

44. They all should leave.

I hope that Joy, Nicolle, Chris, Ali, Lawrence, and most everybody else has more integrity than Joe and Mika. They should be shunned, quite frankly. I cannot abide hypocrites and anybody else who would suck up to Trump. Cowards.

No wonder MSNBC’s ratings have dropped. I used to watch MJ for awhile before I left for work. Not anymore.

We need the TV equivalent of Air America right now. A no bullshit network.

[bdamomma]

48. Independent

media is filling the void now. Dr. Mary Trump and the Nerd Avengers, Robert Reich, Meidas Touch, Glenn Kirschner (Justice Matters), Randi Rhodes on Free Speech Tv. Keith Olbermann and so on. They must be "subscribed" and info shared.

[onecaliberal]

50. Same. The Rev and Joy too.

[calimary]

18. I don't watch 'em, and never trusted them.

[pamdb]

19. No more

Been a Morning Joe watching since maybe 2016? No more. I just got back two hours in the morning.
Maybe they should rewatch Game of Thrones and see what happens when you bend the knee. I always figured if the repubs got a candidate that was more like Saint Ronnie he'd jump back in the fold, but this...

I just hope Nicolle Wallace doesn't follow suit.

[claudette]

31. Right

or Rachel

[Demsrule86]

20. Yes Joe and Mika are dead to me.

[TNNurse]

21. Have not watched in quite awhile.

Hoping those great liberal guests they have had in the past shun them.

[AngryOldDem]

45. Mass exodus is definitely called for.

Especially those former intelligence and military experts.

MSNBC, Joe, and Mika have stepped in a huge, steaming pile of bull excrement here.

[La Coliniere]

22. Haven't watched those opportunists since Monday November 4th

and don’t plan on watching anytime soon, maybe never again. My wife, who has always detested both of them said last week, “They’ll be kissing the felon’s ass pretty soon”, after she read that MSNBC lost half its viewership since the election. She was correct, as usual.

[robleb]

23. Frauds

Mika is just a news reader pretending to be a journalist.
Joe is just a republican playing games, but with no real convictions.
They are not FOX-lite.
They are dumbass-heavy.

[3catwoman3]

52. Any claim to serious journlism Mika may have hoped for...

...was blown to smithereens by that stupid pose.

[live love laugh]

24. LOL

They're now FOX Lite.

I don’t understand how people believed that they were anything other than that.

They are who they always were.

[claudette]

30. Mika

seemed to fight hard for women’s reproductive rights. Now she kisses the butt of the man responsible for the calamity

[AngryOldDem]

46. "Know your worth!"

[SharonClark]

49. Mika and Joe have always been the most

Self promoting and self-serving people on TV. Neither is a journalist and recently they have really gotten into interviewing celebrities from Broadway and Hollywood.

Mika is an elitist and Joe is a blithering grifter. Their marriage was a match made in heaven.

[CTyankee]

59. I wonder how much they paid to her ex husband whom she cheated on when she started her affair with Joe?

He was separated, she was not. I think she said something like "The heart has its reasons" for her rather disgusting behavior.

[amuse bouche]

25. I tuned them in this am. After 5 minutes

I was completely disgusted. Buh bye capitulators

[Dock_Yard]

70. I gave them 8. Then OFF. For a very long time to come.

[Figarosmom]

26. I stopped watching them long ago. Nt

[flashman13]

27. If you were a regular listener of Olbermann you would know Scarborough is a fake

and always has been. His show is a fake. His whole persona is just an act. It is time to change sides again. He has done so many times in the past. There will be more.

[ColinC]

28. Most of us have

Just in different ways.

[claudette]

29. I will

NEVER watch them again. The lowest of hypocrites. I could barely stand Joe anyway. He rambles and rambles. But to kiss Dumpy’s orange butt is too much for me. Makes me want to 🤮

[Botany]

80. So much for Mika's, women's empowerment and know your worth blather.

If you can’t stand for your publicly endorsed principles then you stand for nothing.

[claudette]

81. Exactly!

[paleotn]

32. And now they have no audience.

The reich already hates them. Why not piss off the other side too!

[carpetbagger]

33. Brezinski's dad must be rolling over in his grave

Scarborough was a Gingrich protege, so no surprise.

Maybe not fully right wing, but certainly they're the couple from the morning show on Don't Look Up.

[KatyaR]

34. Yeah, what very little regard I had for them

is gone now. How could they do that, especially with the way TFG spoke about Mika?

It's disgusting, all around.

[Jarqui]

35. Cable is stagnating. Little to no growth since 2008

With the election over: "Boost your ratings/advertising by sucking up to Trump or you're done here"

Trump won't give them the time of day unless they meet his 'conditions'

Like nearly all of Trump's relationships, it isn't going to end well.

Stick a fork in them. They're done but just don't realize it yet.

[iluvtennis]

36. I was really pissed off when they announce they went to kiss the ring of TSF over the weekend. And I think it is

all in the name of RATINGS. Morning Joe has now lost me - I stopped watching today around 615am EST.

Will only be DVR'ing Nicole Wallace, Lawrence O'Donnell, and Rachel Maddow.

[Hassler]

37. Opportunism is as opportunism does

[Intractable]

38. One has to bear in mind how it all started.

They were never to be taken seriously.

[Emile]

39. Watch CSPAN Washington Journal in that time slot.

[FSogol]

40. Did everyone forget they did the same thing when he ran for president the first time? They started

out normalizing him. So sad it took so long for everyone to figure it out.

[Roc2020]

42. They are done

Stick a fork in them. Unless MSNBC wants to keep them on to save face.

[IcyPeas]

43. Are they "journalists" though? Or tv news presenters whose bosses give the orders.

Also being on the west coast their show comes on at 3 a.m. so I've never really watched them.

[returnee]

47. I find them incredibly annoying. nt

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

53. Such hypocrisy

[brush]

54. Agreed. Their pilgrimage to MAL reveals who they really are.

It sure puts most of their regular guests like WAPO's Eugene Robinson, Rev. Al Sharton, Donny Deutsch and other left-of-center regulars in an awkward position as they know the pair went to kiss trump's ass.

We have to see what they will do.

[Passages]

55. Comcast News, don't watch it.

[Deuxcents]

56. Was not happy when they let Medhi Hassan and Tiffany Cross go. Will see who stands tall after this

[Hotler]

57. They're going to call us mean and nasty in the morning for the things we said here today.

[MustLoveBeagles]

58. They're sell outs who have lost a viewer

[ForgedCrank]

60. So now

we are burning down journalists who interview public figures that we don't like?
If someone doesn't do it, how the hell are we supposed to know what he's up to?
I absolutely do not understand what the problem is here.

[newdeal2]

61. We will hear about every fart from that guy for the next 4 years

With or without Morning Joe interviewing him.

[Yavin4]

63. They didn't interview him.

They kissed his ass at his dinner party.

[ForgedCrank]

64. I still

don't understand this though. they are supposed to be journalists, not emotional support talking heads. I don't want them telling me what I want to hear, I want them telling me the truth. They are a utility, a tool, not a friend or political ally. At least, that is what they are supposed to be.,

[Yavin4]

62. Bullshit.

One, neither Joe or Mika are journalists. They are editorialists at best. Two, Trump is not some pol that we don't like. He's a fascist authoritarian that threatens all of us. Three, they didn't meet with him to interview him. They met with him to cozy up to him.They flattered him. They didn't challenge him.

If you don't see the problem, maybe this site isn't for you.

[ForgedCrank]

65. Speak for

yourself. If you can't tolerate other opinions, maybe this site isn't for you.

[DET]

67. Another One Bites the Dust

Haven’t watched in a while. I really liked their regular guests (especially Eugene Robinson and Donny Deutsch) and their round table discussions. I have no idea why they thought kissing up to Trump was a good idea, but like others, I’m done.

[TheKentuckian]

68. If folks are feeling betrayed by Joe and Mika

then they may have some concerning blind spots in the category of ally selection.

All they exist for is to red shift their audience.

[Skittles]

69. I have always found them insufferable

and I have been proven correct

[SocialDemocrat61]

74. Don't feel betrayed at all

Never trusted them. Have always seen as two self serving opportunists.

[Faux pas]

71. I don't

care do you? He's always been a pompous ASSHOLE and she has lost all credibility as an empowerer of women way before she became Joe's permanent lapdog. Disgusting

[snowybirdie]

76. Apropos of nothing, anyone remember

when the show started? Joe was married to the first wife with kids, then he married the second wife and had another couple of kids and now to Mika who left her husband for Joe. Anyone think they'll remain married for long after this? Any bets?

[getagrip_already]

77. Their recent anti-tsf attitude was personal, not political...

They NEVER disagreed with him on political grounds. He attacked them personally, so they went negative on him.

Sure, mika got all high and mighty on womens issues, but they were superficial. She didnt really rally anyone to the cause. Snark is not a position.

He always played to a base. He is still vying for future office. He wants that job. He sees his shot in a failed tsf regime. When the country will want sanity but the media wont let it want a dem.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

79. Dead to me.

As is the rest of corporate media.

Pathetic and weak capitulation.