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Dennis Donovan

(28,451 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 01:20 PM Nov 19

The Nation: Donald Trump Has Not Won a Majority of the Votes Cast for President

The Nation - (archived: https://archive.ph/rXpF5 ) Donald Trump Has Not Won a Majority of the Votes Cast for President

Donald Trump’s popular vote total has fallen below 50 percent, and his margin over Kamala Harris has narrowed considerably as all the votes are counted.

John Nichols
Politics / November 19, 2024

America has given us an unprecedented and powerful mandate,” Donald Trump declared in the early morning hours of November 6, 2024, after all the polls had closed. Indeed, he claimed that he had won “a political victory that our country has never seen before, nothing like this.” Trump was excited by the numbers showing him with well over 50 percent of the popular vote and establishing a wide lead over his Democratic rival, Vice President Kamala Harris.

Unfortunately, for the president-elect, the United States takes time to count 155 million votes—give or take a million—and the actual result will rob Trump of his bragging points.

Trump can no longer claim that powerful mandate. By most reasonable measures, the beginning point for such a claim in a system with two major parties is an overwhelming majority vote in favor of your candidacy. Trump no longer has that.

Over the weekend, as California, Oregon, Washington, and other Western states moved closer to completing their counts, Trump’s percentage of the popular vote fell below 50 percent. And his margin of victory looks to be much smaller than initially anticipated. In fact, of all the 59 presidential elections since the nation’s founding, it appears that—after all of the 2024 votes are counted—only five popular vote winners in history will have prevailed by smaller percentage margins than Trump.

Trump’s popular-vote advantage has declined steadily since election night. As of Monday afternoon, Trump was at 49.94 percent, while Harris was at 48.26, according to the authoritative Cook Political Report’s tracking of results from official sources in states across the country. And we can expect that the Republican’s total will only continue to tick downward as heavily Democratic states on the West Coast finalize their vote tallies.

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The Nation: Donald Trump Has Not Won a Majority of the Votes Cast for President (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Nov 19 OP
Yippee! That's gonna bruise his snowflake ego. surfered Nov 19 #1
Part of our National History. Omnipresent Nov 19 #3
Should that go at the beginning or end of the elegy for the USA? Or just put it on the tombstone? jaxexpat Nov 19 #8
He'll just ignore that BonnieJW Nov 19 #16
Oh, he'll just lie about it.... lastlib Nov 19 #20
Well, that's absolutely meaningless. Think. Again. Nov 19 #2
I don't know why some people keep going on and on about this. Mariana Nov 19 #4
I agree... Think. Again. Nov 19 #5
He will just lie about it and fools will believe him. TNNurse Nov 19 #6
And there was much rejoicing Ray Bruns Nov 19 #7
it doesn't matter. barbtries Nov 19 #9
Post removed Post removed Nov 19 #10
Fascinating, TimmyTwoToes. Welcome to DU... Hekate Nov 19 #13
Down below 50% as of Monday afternoon? calimary Nov 19 #11
Twaddle. The author talks like Trump is a normal person, & he is no such thing... Hekate Nov 19 #12
Nearly 170 million eligible voters pfitz59 Nov 19 #14
Love that we Dems won this battle. Yay! Every small victory counts. n/t iluvtennis Nov 19 #15
Hard to believe he could win the popular vote at all. He is very unpopular, hated as matter of fact. OverBurn Nov 19 #17
"I want all counting to stop!" dchill Nov 19 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author dchill Nov 19 #19
Nixon in 1968 was less than 50 pct. roamer65 Nov 19 #21
The "Orange Scam Artist in Chief" has only managed to succeed at Failing BadGimp Nov 19 #22
Even Fox knows that trump did not win a majority LetMyPeopleVote Nov 20 #23

Omnipresent

(6,605 posts)
3. Part of our National History.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 01:58 PM
Nov 19

The numbers will be there, well beyond the orange anus’s last breath.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
8. Should that go at the beginning or end of the elegy for the USA? Or just put it on the tombstone?
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 03:02 PM
Nov 19

BonnieJW

(2,699 posts)
16. He'll just ignore that
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 03:58 PM
Nov 19

He'll keep saying he has a mandate and that he won by a landslide.

lastlib

(25,148 posts)
20. Oh, he'll just lie about it....
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 04:01 PM
Nov 19

...and make shit up to suit his narcissism. If he had edged Harris out by two votes out of 155+million, he would STILL claim a massive win, crow about it like he'd won by the 150million. Assholes gotta asshole, yunno.

Mariana

(15,271 posts)
4. I don't know why some people keep going on and on about this.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 02:27 PM
Nov 19

It's not going to make a bit of difference.

Think. Again.

(20,762 posts)
5. I agree...
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 02:37 PM
Nov 19

We're facing very dark days, people can't seem to wrap their heads around that.

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calimary

(85,035 posts)
11. Down below 50% as of Monday afternoon?
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 03:23 PM
Nov 19

Indeed. And probably still dropping.

You’ll NEVER hear the GOP admitting that, though.

Hekate

(95,872 posts)
12. Twaddle. The author talks like Trump is a normal person, & he is no such thing...
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 03:27 PM
Nov 19

Quote:
“….and the actual result will rob Trump of his bragging points.
Trump can no longer claim that powerful mandate most reasonable measures, the beginning point for such a claim in a system with two major parties is an overwhelming majority vote in favor of your candidacy. Trump no longer has that.”

#1 Trump is NEVER “robbed of his bragging points.” He lives to boast, he boasts to live, and he’ll punch down hard at anyone who dares question him.
#2 See #1



OverBurn

(1,121 posts)
17. Hard to believe he could win the popular vote at all. He is very unpopular, hated as matter of fact.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 03:59 PM
Nov 19

I still don't trust the results. They spent 4 year crying about being cheated, maybe they found a way to cheat themselves.

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BadGimp

(4,078 posts)
22. The "Orange Scam Artist in Chief" has only managed to succeed at Failing
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:09 PM
Nov 19

3 Elections, and he lost the popular Vote in all of them.

That is quite a record.

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