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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(115,351 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 04:46 PM Tuesday

Pooty Poot threatens to go nuclear again

Putin lowers the bar for using nuclear weapons in new warning over Ukraine

Russian President Vladimir Putin formally lowered the threshold for his country's use of nuclear weapons Tuesday, days after the United States allowed Ukraine to strike inside Russia using American missiles.

The Kremlin announced that Putin had approved an updated nuclear doctrine — a document that governs how Russia uses its nuclear arsenal — including the declaration that Moscow could unleash a nuclear strike if subject to an attack by a nonnuclear country that has the support of a nuclear state.

The Russian Defense Ministry said later Tuesday that Ukraine had carried out its first strike on Russian territory using U.S.-supplied long-range weapons, hitting a military facility in the Bryansk region with an ATACMS missile.

Russian air defenses shot down five ATACMS missiles but fragments of another “fell on the technical territory of a military facility in the Bryansk region, causing a fire that was quickly extinguished. There were no casualties or damage,” it said in a statement.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-lowers-bar-using-nuclear-114404027.html
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Baitball Blogger

(48,062 posts)
2. He can't do a thing if Zelensky aims those missles to fall on his border, or just over it, to stop the advancing Russian
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 04:50 PM
Tuesday

and North Korean troops.

radius777

(3,814 posts)
3. We should've allowed Ukraine to fully fight this
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 04:59 PM
Tuesday

war from the beginning, as many experts like Gen. Ben Hodges and Wesley Clark have stated.

Russia only respects power, and you need to show them force, and ignore any of their nuclear saber rattling.

Crunchy Frog

(26,980 posts)
6. Yes. It's been extremely frustrating to watch.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 05:26 PM
Tuesday

I feel this war could have been over a long time ago if Ukraine had gotten the right kind of support in a timely fashion.

LetMyPeopleVote

(154,549 posts)
5. Putin has issue a good number of "red lines" in the past and nothing has happened when these lines were crossed
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 05:07 PM
Tuesday


Putin is now issuing his famed "red lines" at such a furious pace that by the time he issued his latest, Ukraine had already wildly violated it.

Likely drafted in last night's late hours before being released to the press this morning, Putin's "updated nuclear doctrine" wasn't in time to impede Ukraine's early morning deep strikes on a Russian ammunition depot deep in Russia's Bryansk region with American ATACMS.

Increasingly we find that Putin's "red lines" exist only in the minds of western politicians.

For reference, some of Russia's other recent red lines.

- IF Sweden joins NATO

- If Ukraine receives Western 155mm (shells)

- If Ukraine receives HIMARS

- If Ukraine gets ATACM

- If Ukraine receives Western tanks

- If Ukraine attacks Crimea

- If Ukraine uses Western cluster munitions

- If Ukraine uses Western targeting and satellite information

- If Ukraine strikes Russian oil refineries in Russia

- If Ukraine shoots down a Russian military plane over Russia

- If Ukraine gets F-16

- If long range western weapons strike Russian territory

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