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Javaman

(63,119 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 07:22 PM Nov 19

At first I was fearful that trump would have some truly diabolical assholes

In his cabinet, but now with all this morons he’s putting in his cabinet, I’m fearful of the sheer unmitigated stupidity.

How do they dress themselves without tripping over their laces, how do they eat without stabbing themselves in the face?

The only saving grace by him having the truly mind bendingly stupid in his cabinet is: they will be doing all they can individually not to be the most stupid of them all. This results in entropy and egos running high with little accomplishments to show for ham
handed efforts

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At first I was fearful that trump would have some truly diabolical assholes (Original Post) Javaman Nov 19 OP
That's probably the best thing. The Madcap Nov 19 #1
It defines kakistocracy Dennis Donovan Nov 19 #2
They will inflict much damage liberal N proud Nov 19 #3
The Putin/Trump goal is to make the damage permanent, never to be repaired. Irish_Dem Nov 19 #7
Well... czarjak Nov 19 #23
Many times he said we are a nation in decline. He seemed to like that phrase. Walleye Nov 19 #27
maybe it wasn't just a phrase, but a warning of what he was going to cause... a nation in decline William Gustafson Nov 20 #38
Yep, it was a decline caused by him Walleye Nov 20 #40
He's forming a kakistocracy for ultimate chaos. Lars39 Nov 19 #4
With bdamomma Nov 19 #17
Oh, yes! Lars39 Nov 19 #18
In his last administration, he couldn't get everything done because he appointed people with some understanding ... Jim__ Nov 19 #5
they know how to take the money and run stillcool Nov 19 #6
Bingo. Irish_Dem Nov 19 #8
Most crime goes unpunished. czarjak Nov 19 #24
Yes. Wage theft is the largest category markodochartaigh Nov 19 #34
he's trying to destroy American government Skittles Nov 19 #9
He doesn't want anyone who might have even a smattering of B.See Nov 19 #10
I'm thinking tenures will be measured in Scaramuccis Demobrat Nov 19 #11
If you heart Codifer Nov 19 #12
No. It isn't. Demobrat Nov 19 #16
Sorry. Codifer Nov 19 #35
Otto Dietrich, Hitler's press chief, in markodochartaigh Nov 19 #13
Until now. nt eppur_se_muova Nov 19 #29
Unfortunately ... krkaufman Nov 19 #14
Very likely true - the Stephen Millers are still getting appointed, just not to cabinet level positions. muriel_volestrangler Nov 20 #41
Never adapt. Don't let all the chat and coverage inure you to the eventual sane-washing of his dictatorship. ancianita Nov 19 #15
Stupidity is ForgedCrank Nov 19 #19
They are being chosen to destroy the agencies, destroy functioning government. niyad Nov 19 #20
And then "only Trump" will be able to fix it. hadEnuf Nov 19 #21
No, that line was for the rubes. The destruction IS the immediate goal, niyad Nov 19 #31
A week or so back Donnie the Lesser Retrograde Nov 19 #22
You're probably right. Turbineguy Nov 19 #25
Maybe they can be bought newdeal2 Nov 19 #26
They're probably putin's picks. Doesn't want any second guessers. C Moon Nov 19 #28
Trump has made life difficult for himself. Aussie105 Nov 19 #30
Not when his goal is the complete destruction of our government. niyad Nov 19 #32
Trump has never learned to delegate Metaphorical Nov 19 #33
Shredders of all sorts will be working overtime. Aussie105 Nov 19 #36
I know what you mean, Javaman! calimary Nov 20 #37
Don't be fooled Meowmee Nov 20 #39

The Madcap

(470 posts)
1. That's probably the best thing.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 07:24 PM
Nov 19

They won't read the "manuals," and everyone in their departments will know they are idiots. It will be just like Russia: just go through the motions and pretend to obey "fearless leader."

liberal N proud

(60,957 posts)
3. They will inflict much damage
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 07:26 PM
Nov 19

We still have not recovered from Reagan, can’t imagine how long it will take for the country to get the trump stink out.

Jim__

(14,464 posts)
5. In his last administration, he couldn't get everything done because he appointed people with some understanding ...
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 07:27 PM
Nov 19

... and they refused to follow his orders.

I'm hoping his time they won't get everything done because the people he's appointing have no clue how to do anything.

B.See

(3,695 posts)
10. He doesn't want anyone who might have even a smattering of
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 08:38 PM
Nov 19

know how, expertise, self determination, or integrity.

They're just figureheads, because he wants final say and DIRECT CONTROL of it ALL.

Demobrat

(9,845 posts)
11. I'm thinking tenures will be measured in Scaramuccis
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 08:58 PM
Nov 19

and there will be so much churn nothing will ever get done. Hopefully.

Codifer

(770 posts)
12. If you heart
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 09:03 PM
Nov 19

and mind is strong enough .... you could re-watch or binge "Chernobyl". You will see how this does NOT work.

Good luck.

markodochartaigh

(2,160 posts)
13. Otto Dietrich, Hitler's press chief, in
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 09:05 PM
Nov 19

"The Hitler I Knew."

"In the twelve years of his rule in Germany Hitler produced the biggest confusion in government that has ever existed in a civilized state."

krkaufman

(13,743 posts)
14. Unfortunately ...
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 09:11 PM
Nov 19

… the idiots are being put in place at the top of the departments to allow the “truly diabolical a**holes” to pillage with less visibility or scrutiny.

muriel_volestrangler

(102,558 posts)
41. Very likely true - the Stephen Millers are still getting appointed, just not to cabinet level positions.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 05:49 AM
Nov 20

I've seen it suggested that Trump likes having stupid arseholes in the Cabinet since they wouldn't dare launch a coup with Vance to invoke the 25th Amendment.

ancianita

(38,688 posts)
15. Never adapt. Don't let all the chat and coverage inure you to the eventual sane-washing of his dictatorship.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 09:17 PM
Nov 19

There should be no moving goalposts toward "stupidity," or "incompetence" or "saving grace."

They are not trump's foils. They are all totally unfit and a collective danger to U.S. national security.

We MUST stop trying to make sense of the Heritage Henchmen's Project 2025 COUP .

By Jan 20, trump's tools + the Insurrection Act + the Heritage Henchmen will become domestic terrorism.

niyad

(120,272 posts)
31. No, that line was for the rubes. The destruction IS the immediate goal,
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:15 PM
Nov 19

with his ugly dystopia as the end result.

Retrograde

(10,679 posts)
22. A week or so back Donnie the Lesser
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 09:52 PM
Nov 19

said that Dear Leader was not going to appoint anyone smarter than himself because he already knows everything, and what can experts in their fields tell him?

It's going to be a rough ride - the only lifelines are the career bureaucrats who actually make things run and know how to ignore the suits in the top seats - assuming they escape the Elon/Vivek axes.

Turbineguy

(38,413 posts)
25. You're probably right.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:00 PM
Nov 19

in order to do what he promised he needs competent people. Anyway, he doesn't give a shit, he stays out of jail and golfs.

newdeal2

(1,010 posts)
26. Maybe they can be bought
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:02 PM
Nov 19

I think each will use their positions to curry favor with big business for their own benefit later on. Maybe that won't leave as much time to dismantle their departments.

Aussie105

(6,317 posts)
30. Trump has made life difficult for himself.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:11 PM
Nov 19

Last edited Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:52 PM - Edit history (1)

He has a small and select inner circle of people he really trusts.

Unfortunately few of them have the skills needed for their appointed place at the Trump government table.

So . . . .Fealty to the King = yes.
Competence to run the country = NO.

Expect some insane levels of chaos over the next 4 years.

Trump isn't a clear thinker and knows little about how to run the business of the USA, and delegating decisions to more capable and intelligent others isn't going to happen.

Metaphorical

(2,329 posts)
33. Trump has never learned to delegate
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:23 PM
Nov 19

He's never learned to compromise, never learned to trust his underlings. He cannot stand competition, especially when people are smarter than he is. He has a pathological allergy to telling the truth, except as a taunt.

A smart leader, when wanting to end one thing and begin another, plans, prepares, and ensures as minimal a disruption as possible. He places people that are competent as transitional leaders on the organization being built, makes sure that is up and running, then he brings in experts to bring the old building down.

Trump is not a smart leader - he's driven by revenge, hubris, greed, and stupidity. I suspect, when all this is over and Trump is in the grave, then the story will come out about how he stole this election like he has stolen almost everything else in his life.

I suspect that, when January 20th comes, he will discover that the passwords no longer work for anything, that intelligence data has mysteriously become corrupted, that sensitive personnel information will have seemingly disappeared. The CIA still remembers Valerie Plame.

Aussie105

(6,317 posts)
36. Shredders of all sorts will be working overtime.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 11:00 PM
Nov 19

Past tweets will be deleted or modified.

Various government entities will strengthen their communications with the Deep State - you know, Obama and soon Biden in an underground bunker somewhere sending out coded messages just to make Trump's life miserable.

calimary

(84,409 posts)
37. I know what you mean, Javaman!
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:10 AM
Nov 20

His self-styled set-up is already in trouble and the election was only two weeks ago! The guy’s still leaving piles of rubbish wherever he goes, even at this late date. And boy is he making lousy choices. Wouldn’t surprise me if most of his misbegotten “cabinet” falls apart before he even finishes his first year back in the White House.

Wonder who the first escapee will be, and how soon after he’s sworn in.

Meowmee

(5,699 posts)
39. Don't be fooled
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 05:41 AM
Nov 20

I believe they are going to do maximum harm and they’re not quite as inept in that respect as you seem to think in my opinion.

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