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edhopper

(35,759 posts)
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 04:13 PM Nov 2024

Gaetz withdrawal is not a victory

Last edited Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:40 PM - Edit history (1)

Trump doesn't care about who the AGbis, as long as they are loyal to him over the Constitution.
The next one the Federalists put up will get a pass and do as much damage.


Update: Now it's Pam Bondi, who is worse than Gaetz.

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Gaetz withdrawal is not a victory (Original Post) edhopper Nov 2024 OP
As a women, mzmolly Nov 2024 #1
I agree, mzmolly. Mahalo 💙🕯️🕊️ Cha Nov 2024 #3
Mahalo Cha. mzmolly Nov 2024 #15
Yes, I agree. mountain grammy Nov 2024 #33
But you have a whole rapist as the lead Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #46
Right. mzmolly Nov 2024 #47
Yeah.. ONE LESS RAPIST.. why is that so hard to Cha Nov 2024 #72
I've no idea Cha. mzmolly Nov 2024 #74
Yeah we don't have to be Reminded of Cha Nov 2024 #75
LOL mzmolly Nov 2024 #77
Here's the deal... the AG is meaningless. WarGamer Nov 2024 #2
Then why so much Garland bashing around here? n/t Shrek Nov 2024 #4
Good point edhopper Nov 2024 #14
Post removed Post removed Nov 2024 #23
They won't take direction from the AG? HereForTheParty Nov 2024 #25
direction is not the same as expertise WarGamer Nov 2024 #45
I'm glad he is out. But that doesn't mean anyone thinks the next one will be any better. Solly Mack Nov 2024 #5
My lingering question is this: Gaetz resigned his House seat. He would have to run for allegorical oracle Nov 2024 #40
Anything could happen with Trump. Solly Mack Nov 2024 #41
I was wondering about that AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2024 #52
Actually, it IS a minor victory. MineralMan Nov 2024 #6
Sure it is PCIntern Nov 2024 #7
I'm not celebrating. The next one will be a competent Fed Soc warrior. 617Blue Nov 2024 #8
Of course it is. Happy Hoosier Nov 2024 #9
THANK YOU! Cha Nov 2024 #73
this one not only crashed hard, it defined the transition bigtree Nov 2024 #10
Good one Beringia Nov 2024 #70
Disagree. It is a victory for his victims. Passages Nov 2024 #11
Any trump loss is good... lame54 Nov 2024 #12
It absolutely is! A Trump Turd just got flushed! sunflowerseed Nov 2024 #13
Agreed... Shit like this is just a distraction Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #16
Im just enjoying Gaetz public humilation Demovictory9 Nov 2024 #17
The Heritage Foundation is the real enemy from within that we need to worry about. Initech Nov 2024 #18
Unfortunately edhopper Nov 2024 #19
Yes, it is. The legislative branch stood up Persondem Nov 2024 #20
Yes Meowmee Nov 2024 #21
The long ForgedCrank Nov 2024 #22
And we will be stuck with Gaetz too in some other capacity. totodeinhere Nov 2024 #24
Or, as I mentioned above, could he be named Acting AG? No Senate approval necessary, and allegorical oracle Nov 2024 #42
It shows the Senate won't rubber stamp his nominees HereForTheParty Nov 2024 #26
Child rape edhopper Nov 2024 #35
It's a small victory in that not ANYTHING goes. Shermann Nov 2024 #27
Pyrrhic victory... JT45242 Nov 2024 #28
Maybe if the pleading is loud enough the Unfrozen Caveman Pedophile TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #29
but it feels good for now.... joanbarnes Nov 2024 #30
I would call it a win for America. Emile Nov 2024 #31
It is a win. Very low bar, but still... rubbersole Nov 2024 #32
It's a victory in the same way that Trump dying would be a victory. progressoid Nov 2024 #34
I never thought he was really going to be AG. LisaM Nov 2024 #36
The Repugs Have a Wealth of Assholes to Choose From Uncle Smart Ass Nov 2024 #37
Smokescreen Escape Nov 2024 #38
I think Gaetz was trumpies pick because djt knew Gaetz's background,... magicarpet Nov 2024 #58
Trump is a master of tricking you into thinking you won ThePartyThatListens Nov 2024 #39
It's encouraging though. It shows the Senate isn't going to completely roll over for Trump. Nt Quixote1818 Nov 2024 #43
News Alert: Convicted Felon's Alleged Child Sex Trafficker nominee withdraws from consideration as Attorney General Dem4life1970 Nov 2024 #44
He has nominated Pam Bondi edhopper Nov 2024 #48
Not worse. mzmolly Nov 2024 #49
What she will do to the country edhopper Nov 2024 #50
I'm no fan of anyone who assocates with Trump. But, mzmolly Nov 2024 #51
And that is why she is more dangerous edhopper Nov 2024 #56
So should Democrats vote for all of Trump's nominees onenote Nov 2024 #62
Now watch Gov Ron pick Gaetz to replace Rubio. Callie1979 Nov 2024 #53
How is Bondi 'worse' than Gaetz? mzmolly Nov 2024 #54
What she will do edhopper Nov 2024 #55
It's odd to see people here mzmolly Nov 2024 #60
I am not defending Gaetz edhopper Nov 2024 #61
Gaetz as mzmolly Nov 2024 #64
Trump as President edhopper Nov 2024 #67
Obviously. mzmolly Nov 2024 #68
I think she'll likely be much more effective at all the shit you don't like than Gaetz In It to Win It Nov 2024 #57
No. mzmolly Nov 2024 #59
Yes, and wrecklessness usually doesn't translate to effectiveness. In It to Win It Nov 2024 #63
It does in Trump world. mzmolly Nov 2024 #65
Um. we'll agree to disagree on that In It to Win It Nov 2024 #66
Condolences to those who will miss Gaetz mzmolly Nov 2024 #69
I will miss the messy senate hearing that would have been In It to Win It Nov 2024 #71
Is Pam related to Ted Bondi? Dave Bowman Nov 2024 #76
Kinda sad really Blue Owl Nov 2024 #78

Cha

(309,550 posts)
3. I agree, mzmolly. Mahalo 💙🕯️🕊️
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 04:32 PM
Nov 2024

I Don’t give a shit about TSF.

It’s a victory for Women everywhere.

Dem4life1234

(2,530 posts)
46. But you have a whole rapist as the lead
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:19 PM
Nov 2024

Doesn't make me feel any better when the head is a raping POS.

mzmolly

(52,073 posts)
74. I've no idea Cha.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 04:41 PM
Nov 2024

It should not be difficult for anyone to understand why that's a good thing.

Cha

(309,550 posts)
75. Yeah we don't have to be Reminded of
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 04:56 PM
Nov 2024

Sexual Predators and Rapists every time Gaetz' Ugly face is up there Revenge Prosecuting. And It Shows him What Karma is All About.

WarGamer

(16,870 posts)
2. Here's the deal... the AG is meaningless.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 04:28 PM
Nov 2024

The DoJ will be run by the Assistant AG and the Solicitor General... both Trump loyalists.

The AG is a figurehead.

Trump WANTS someone that will just do press conferences and "own the libs"

Response to WarGamer (Reply #2)

WarGamer

(16,870 posts)
45. direction is not the same as expertise
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:17 PM
Nov 2024

The AG is like a CEO...

They instill a culture and reassure the stockholders. They opine on day to day activities.

Solly Mack

(94,697 posts)
5. I'm glad he is out. But that doesn't mean anyone thinks the next one will be any better.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 04:35 PM
Nov 2024

Trump and the GOP are determined to reshape (damage) the country. None of his choices will change that goal. He wants an attack dog as AG. He'll get one.

allegorical oracle

(4,571 posts)
40. My lingering question is this: Gaetz resigned his House seat. He would have to run for
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 07:27 PM
Nov 2024

in a special election at a date decided by DeSantis. Meanwhile, once TSF takes office next year, what's to stop him from naming Gaetz to be Acting AG? No Senate approval is necessary for that post. It's limited, as I understand, to a two-year service, but Gaetz could do a ton of damage in two years.

If Gaetz opts not to run for his House seat again, it could signal that he's been promised another admin position OR will be named Acting AG.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,743 posts)
52. I was wondering about that
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 09:13 PM
Nov 2024

Did he win reelection? If so, does he just get his seat back in January?

MineralMan

(148,839 posts)
6. Actually, it IS a minor victory.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 04:35 PM
Nov 2024

It indicates that Trump cannot ride completely roughshod over things.

So, it is good that he will not be AG. Someone else will be, of course, but not Gaetz.

PCIntern

(27,251 posts)
7. Sure it is
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 04:35 PM
Nov 2024

That whoring, rapey, slimy prick ain’t gonna see the Cabinet meeting room so he can grind up his ED pills into his Red Bull somewhere else.

Happy Hoosier

(8,871 posts)
9. Of course it is.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 04:55 PM
Nov 2024

1) It humiliates Gaetz
2) It embarrasses Trump
3) He's a fucking rapist.

SO.... the next one will be bad too. Maybe even worse in some ways (more competent, for example). But that doesn;t mean this isn't a win. It is.

bigtree

(91,743 posts)
10. this one not only crashed hard, it defined the transition
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 04:57 PM
Nov 2024

...as a criminal's farce.

That's how it's done. Fight the next battle the same way.

Tired of portrayals of Trump's manipulations as inevitable. He's obviously an ignorant fool, being led by other ignorant fools.

Passages

(2,552 posts)
11. Disagree. It is a victory for his victims.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 04:59 PM
Nov 2024

He no longer has the right to insult their dignity with this spectacle.

Initech

(104,473 posts)
18. The Heritage Foundation is the real enemy from within that we need to worry about.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 06:06 PM
Nov 2024

Federalist Society too. The sooner those two wretched organizations rid the world of their vileness, the better.

Persondem

(2,101 posts)
20. Yes, it is. The legislative branch stood up
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 06:41 PM
Nov 2024

To the wanna be king. Multiple moderate Republican senators were lining up to vote against Gaetz.

totodeinhere

(13,593 posts)
24. And we will be stuck with Gaetz too in some other capacity.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 06:48 PM
Nov 2024

He might reclaim his House seat or he might get a Senate appointment to fill Rubio's seat. Or if that doesn't work out he could get appointed to some other job in the Trump Administration that doesn't require Senate confirmation.

allegorical oracle

(4,571 posts)
42. Or, as I mentioned above, could he be named Acting AG? No Senate approval necessary, and
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 07:29 PM
Nov 2024

TSF named at least a couple of Acting AGs after Sessions was fired.

JT45242

(3,238 posts)
28. Pyrrhic victory...
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 06:55 PM
Nov 2024

We wasted a lot of time and effort on this moron...the next goon will still take an oath of loyalty to mango Mussolini privately even if he publicly takes an oath to support and defend the constitution.

Democracy and sane governance are already lost.

rubbersole

(9,660 posts)
32. It is a win. Very low bar, but still...
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 07:02 PM
Nov 2024

...the next AG won't be the bumbling clickbait idiot that Gaetz was sure to be. It also might reduce the scrutiny Gaetz would have had. Someone more competent is likely to be more destructive. But hey, tsf might nominate ultra-loyal Tommy Tuberville.🤯

progressoid

(51,232 posts)
34. It's a victory in the same way that Trump dying would be a victory.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 07:08 PM
Nov 2024

Yes, Trump would be gone, but then there's his replacement.

Sort of a lose/lose kind of victory.

LisaM

(29,105 posts)
36. I never thought he was really going to be AG.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 07:10 PM
Nov 2024

IMHO, he was a decoy. He was so incredibly offensive as a pick that the nomination was clearly going nowhere.

I don't know if the idea was to set up for someone more normal seeming but who will actually be far more dangerous, or if it was just to make heads spin. Either way, it's a making a mockery of the executive branch.

Uncle Smart Ass

(3 posts)
37. The Repugs Have a Wealth of Assholes to Choose From
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 07:12 PM
Nov 2024

Ken Paxton will be the next appointment for AG. 🤮

Escape

(166 posts)
38. Smokescreen
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 07:17 PM
Nov 2024

I thought he was a smokescreen nomination. So hideously bad that he would steal all the attention while Trump slipped his other snakes and monsters in the back door.

Now, when he picks Gym Jordan, or some other moral free weasel, we are all supposed to say "Well, at least it's not Gaetz."

magicarpet

(17,973 posts)
58. I think Gaetz was trumpies pick because djt knew Gaetz's background,...
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 09:52 PM
Nov 2024

... of being a mini Jeffrey Epstein.
Gaetz is also a walking bomb about ready to detonate if you do something, or say something against his best interests. An irrational tiger always at the ready to launch an attack against his prey. Trump just loves that irrational attack mode aspect of Gaetz. Djt would just love an attack dog blindly loyal to him like Gaetz at DOJ to be his lapdog goon.

Now back to the dirt in Gaetz's background. If djt asked Gaetz to complete an assignment at DOJ and Gaetz refused - djt just flexes the mob boss arm twisting weapon at his disposal. If Gaetz failed to follow through on a DOJ assignment - djt would leak the gory details of Gaetz's illegal sex capades and destroy him.

Putin taught djt the motivational value of juicy kompromat and how to weaponize it to your advantages.

So Gaetz was the perfect stooge to be Atty. Gen. because djt had him by the balls and under his total control.

Gaetz blindly worships the ground djt walks on. If you take even a superficial peek into their personalities it is uncanny how they are much a carbon copy of the other in so many ways.

 
39. Trump is a master of tricking you into thinking you won
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 07:23 PM
Nov 2024

It's easy, just put up the most reprehensible piece of crap you can think of and support them to the hilt.

If they get through, it's a clear win.

If not, he puts in a slightly less scumbag and it's still a win.

Snap out out of it people.

We need to fight, fight, fight!

Quixote1818

(30,900 posts)
43. It's encouraging though. It shows the Senate isn't going to completely roll over for Trump. Nt
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 07:30 PM
Nov 2024

Dem4life1970

(779 posts)
44. News Alert: Convicted Felon's Alleged Child Sex Trafficker nominee withdraws from consideration as Attorney General
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:04 PM
Nov 2024

mzmolly

(52,073 posts)
51. I'm no fan of anyone who assocates with Trump. But,
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 09:13 PM
Nov 2024

whatever she does to the country, it will not be done with the baggage of having drug fueled orgies with highschool students.

onenote

(45,095 posts)
62. So should Democrats vote for all of Trump's nominees
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 10:31 PM
Nov 2024

On the theory that any replacements will be worse?

edhopper

(35,759 posts)
55. What she will do
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 09:40 PM
Nov 2024

And the connections she has. She will be much more effective than Gaetz

mzmolly

(52,073 posts)
60. It's odd to see people here
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 10:15 PM
Nov 2024

defending Gaetz.

Effective, while having some regard for the law, isn't as bad as a child sex trafficker, with no moral compass, no matter how you spin it.

edhopper

(35,759 posts)
61. I am not defending Gaetz
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 10:26 PM
Nov 2024

He is reprehensible.I am saying she will damage the country more.

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