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edhopper

(35,114 posts)
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 03:13 PM Nov 21

Gaetz withdrawal is not a victory

Last edited Thu Nov 21, 2024, 07:40 PM - Edit history (1)

Trump doesn't care about who the AGbis, as long as they are loyal to him over the Constitution.
The next one the Federalists put up will get a pass and do as much damage.


Update: Now it's Pam Bondi, who is worse than Gaetz.

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Gaetz withdrawal is not a victory (Original Post) edhopper Nov 21 OP
As a women, mzmolly Nov 21 #1
I agree, mzmolly. Mahalo 💙🕯️🕊️ Cha Nov 21 #3
Mahalo Cha. mzmolly Nov 21 #15
Yes, I agree. mountain grammy Nov 21 #33
But you have a whole rapist as the lead Dem4life1234 Nov 21 #46
Right. mzmolly Nov 21 #47
Yeah.. ONE LESS RAPIST.. why is that so hard to Cha Nov 22 #72
I've no idea Cha. mzmolly Nov 22 #74
Yeah we don't have to be Reminded of Cha Nov 22 #75
LOL mzmolly Nov 22 #77
Here's the deal... the AG is meaningless. WarGamer Nov 21 #2
Then why so much Garland bashing around here? n/t Shrek Nov 21 #4
Good point edhopper Nov 21 #14
Post removed Post removed Nov 21 #23
They won't take direction from the AG? HereForTheParty Nov 21 #25
direction is not the same as expertise WarGamer Nov 21 #45
I'm glad he is out. But that doesn't mean anyone thinks the next one will be any better. Solly Mack Nov 21 #5
My lingering question is this: Gaetz resigned his House seat. He would have to run for allegorical oracle Nov 21 #40
Anything could happen with Trump. Solly Mack Nov 21 #41
I was wondering about that AZSkiffyGeek Nov 21 #52
Actually, it IS a minor victory. MineralMan Nov 21 #6
Sure it is PCIntern Nov 21 #7
I'm not celebrating. The next one will be a competent Fed Soc warrior. 617Blue Nov 21 #8
Of course it is. Happy Hoosier Nov 21 #9
THANK YOU! Cha Nov 22 #73
this one not only crashed hard, it defined the transition bigtree Nov 21 #10
Good one Beringia Nov 22 #70
Disagree. It is a victory for his victims. Passages Nov 21 #11
Any trump loss is good... lame54 Nov 21 #12
It absolutely is! A Trump Turd just got flushed! sunflowerseed Nov 21 #13
Agreed... Shit like this is just a distraction Blue_Tires Nov 21 #16
Im just enjoying Gaetz public humilation Demovictory9 Nov 21 #17
The Heritage Foundation is the real enemy from within that we need to worry about. Initech Nov 21 #18
Unfortunately edhopper Nov 21 #19
Yes, it is. The legislative branch stood up Persondem Nov 21 #20
Yes Meowmee Nov 21 #21
The long ForgedCrank Nov 21 #22
And we will be stuck with Gaetz too in some other capacity. totodeinhere Nov 21 #24
Or, as I mentioned above, could he be named Acting AG? No Senate approval necessary, and allegorical oracle Nov 21 #42
It shows the Senate won't rubber stamp his nominees HereForTheParty Nov 21 #26
Child rape edhopper Nov 21 #35
It's a small victory in that not ANYTHING goes. Shermann Nov 21 #27
Pyrrhic victory... JT45242 Nov 21 #28
Maybe if the pleading is loud enough the Unfrozen Caveman Pedophile TheKentuckian Nov 21 #29
but it feels good for now.... joanbarnes Nov 21 #30
I would call it a win for America. Emile Nov 21 #31
It is a win. Very low bar, but still... rubbersole Nov 21 #32
It's a victory in the same way that Trump dying would be a victory. progressoid Nov 21 #34
I never thought he was really going to be AG. LisaM Nov 21 #36
The Repugs Have a Wealth of Assholes to Choose From Uncle Smart Ass Nov 21 #37
Smokescreen Escape Nov 21 #38
I think Gaetz was trumpies pick because djt knew Gaetz's background,... magicarpet Nov 21 #58
Trump is a master of tricking you into thinking you won ThePartyThatListens Nov 21 #39
It's encouraging though. It shows the Senate isn't going to completely roll over for Trump. Nt Quixote1818 Nov 21 #43
News Alert: Convicted Felon's Alleged Child Sex Trafficker nominee withdraws from consideration as Attorney General Dem4life1970 Nov 21 #44
He has nominated Pam Bondi edhopper Nov 21 #48
Not worse. mzmolly Nov 21 #49
What she will do to the country edhopper Nov 21 #50
I'm no fan of anyone who assocates with Trump. But, mzmolly Nov 21 #51
And that is why she is more dangerous edhopper Nov 21 #56
So should Democrats vote for all of Trump's nominees onenote Nov 21 #62
Now watch Gov Ron pick Gaetz to replace Rubio. Callie1979 Nov 21 #53
How is Bondi 'worse' than Gaetz? mzmolly Nov 21 #54
What she will do edhopper Nov 21 #55
It's odd to see people here mzmolly Nov 21 #60
I am not defending Gaetz edhopper Nov 21 #61
Gaetz as mzmolly Nov 21 #64
Trump as President edhopper Nov 21 #67
Obviously. mzmolly Nov 22 #68
I think she'll likely be much more effective at all the shit you don't like than Gaetz In It to Win It Nov 21 #57
No. mzmolly Nov 21 #59
Yes, and wrecklessness usually doesn't translate to effectiveness. In It to Win It Nov 21 #63
It does in Trump world. mzmolly Nov 21 #65
Um. we'll agree to disagree on that In It to Win It Nov 21 #66
Condolences to those who will miss Gaetz mzmolly Nov 22 #69
I will miss the messy senate hearing that would have been In It to Win It Nov 22 #71
Is Pam related to Ted Bondi? Dave Bowman Nov 22 #76
Kinda sad really Blue Owl Nov 22 #78

Cha

(306,135 posts)
3. I agree, mzmolly. Mahalo 💙🕯️🕊️
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 03:32 PM
Nov 21

I Don’t give a shit about TSF.

It’s a victory for Women everywhere.

Dem4life1234

(2,040 posts)
46. But you have a whole rapist as the lead
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 07:19 PM
Nov 21

Doesn't make me feel any better when the head is a raping POS.

mzmolly

(51,740 posts)
74. I've no idea Cha.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:41 PM
Nov 22

It should not be difficult for anyone to understand why that's a good thing.

Cha

(306,135 posts)
75. Yeah we don't have to be Reminded of
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:56 PM
Nov 22

Sexual Predators and Rapists every time Gaetz' Ugly face is up there Revenge Prosecuting. And It Shows him What Karma is All About.

WarGamer

(15,917 posts)
2. Here's the deal... the AG is meaningless.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 03:28 PM
Nov 21

The DoJ will be run by the Assistant AG and the Solicitor General... both Trump loyalists.

The AG is a figurehead.

Trump WANTS someone that will just do press conferences and "own the libs"

Response to WarGamer (Reply #2)

WarGamer

(15,917 posts)
45. direction is not the same as expertise
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 07:17 PM
Nov 21

The AG is like a CEO...

They instill a culture and reassure the stockholders. They opine on day to day activities.

Solly Mack

(93,317 posts)
5. I'm glad he is out. But that doesn't mean anyone thinks the next one will be any better.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 03:35 PM
Nov 21

Trump and the GOP are determined to reshape (damage) the country. None of his choices will change that goal. He wants an attack dog as AG. He'll get one.

allegorical oracle

(3,585 posts)
40. My lingering question is this: Gaetz resigned his House seat. He would have to run for
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 06:27 PM
Nov 21

in a special election at a date decided by DeSantis. Meanwhile, once TSF takes office next year, what's to stop him from naming Gaetz to be Acting AG? No Senate approval is necessary for that post. It's limited, as I understand, to a two-year service, but Gaetz could do a ton of damage in two years.

If Gaetz opts not to run for his House seat again, it could signal that he's been promised another admin position OR will be named Acting AG.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,672 posts)
52. I was wondering about that
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:13 PM
Nov 21

Did he win reelection? If so, does he just get his seat back in January?

MineralMan

(148,150 posts)
6. Actually, it IS a minor victory.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 03:35 PM
Nov 21

It indicates that Trump cannot ride completely roughshod over things.

So, it is good that he will not be AG. Someone else will be, of course, but not Gaetz.

PCIntern

(27,086 posts)
7. Sure it is
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 03:35 PM
Nov 21

That whoring, rapey, slimy prick ain’t gonna see the Cabinet meeting room so he can grind up his ED pills into his Red Bull somewhere else.

Happy Hoosier

(8,604 posts)
9. Of course it is.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 03:55 PM
Nov 21

1) It humiliates Gaetz
2) It embarrasses Trump
3) He's a fucking rapist.

SO.... the next one will be bad too. Maybe even worse in some ways (more competent, for example). But that doesn;t mean this isn't a win. It is.

bigtree

(90,341 posts)
10. this one not only crashed hard, it defined the transition
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 03:57 PM
Nov 21

...as a criminal's farce.

That's how it's done. Fight the next battle the same way.

Tired of portrayals of Trump's manipulations as inevitable. He's obviously an ignorant fool, being led by other ignorant fools.

Passages

(1,530 posts)
11. Disagree. It is a victory for his victims.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 03:59 PM
Nov 21

He no longer has the right to insult their dignity with this spectacle.

Initech

(102,801 posts)
18. The Heritage Foundation is the real enemy from within that we need to worry about.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 05:06 PM
Nov 21

Federalist Society too. The sooner those two wretched organizations rid the world of their vileness, the better.

Persondem

(2,097 posts)
20. Yes, it is. The legislative branch stood up
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 05:41 PM
Nov 21

To the wanna be king. Multiple moderate Republican senators were lining up to vote against Gaetz.

totodeinhere

(13,414 posts)
24. And we will be stuck with Gaetz too in some other capacity.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 05:48 PM
Nov 21

He might reclaim his House seat or he might get a Senate appointment to fill Rubio's seat. Or if that doesn't work out he could get appointed to some other job in the Trump Administration that doesn't require Senate confirmation.

allegorical oracle

(3,585 posts)
42. Or, as I mentioned above, could he be named Acting AG? No Senate approval necessary, and
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 06:29 PM
Nov 21

TSF named at least a couple of Acting AGs after Sessions was fired.

JT45242

(3,018 posts)
28. Pyrrhic victory...
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 05:55 PM
Nov 21

We wasted a lot of time and effort on this moron...the next goon will still take an oath of loyalty to mango Mussolini privately even if he publicly takes an oath to support and defend the constitution.

Democracy and sane governance are already lost.

rubbersole

(8,794 posts)
32. It is a win. Very low bar, but still...
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 06:02 PM
Nov 21

...the next AG won't be the bumbling clickbait idiot that Gaetz was sure to be. It also might reduce the scrutiny Gaetz would have had. Someone more competent is likely to be more destructive. But hey, tsf might nominate ultra-loyal Tommy Tuberville.🤯

progressoid

(50,855 posts)
34. It's a victory in the same way that Trump dying would be a victory.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 06:08 PM
Nov 21

Yes, Trump would be gone, but then there's his replacement.

Sort of a lose/lose kind of victory.

LisaM

(28,825 posts)
36. I never thought he was really going to be AG.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 06:10 PM
Nov 21

IMHO, he was a decoy. He was so incredibly offensive as a pick that the nomination was clearly going nowhere.

I don't know if the idea was to set up for someone more normal seeming but who will actually be far more dangerous, or if it was just to make heads spin. Either way, it's a making a mockery of the executive branch.

Uncle Smart Ass

(3 posts)
37. The Repugs Have a Wealth of Assholes to Choose From
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 06:12 PM
Nov 21

Ken Paxton will be the next appointment for AG. 🤮

Escape

(82 posts)
38. Smokescreen
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 06:17 PM
Nov 21

I thought he was a smokescreen nomination. So hideously bad that he would steal all the attention while Trump slipped his other snakes and monsters in the back door.

Now, when he picks Gym Jordan, or some other moral free weasel, we are all supposed to say "Well, at least it's not Gaetz."

magicarpet

(17,224 posts)
58. I think Gaetz was trumpies pick because djt knew Gaetz's background,...
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:52 PM
Nov 21

... of being a mini Jeffrey Epstein.
Gaetz is also a walking bomb about ready to detonate if you do something, or say something against his best interests. An irrational tiger always at the ready to launch an attack against his prey. Trump just loves that irrational attack mode aspect of Gaetz. Djt would just love an attack dog blindly loyal to him like Gaetz at DOJ to be his lapdog goon.

Now back to the dirt in Gaetz's background. If djt asked Gaetz to complete an assignment at DOJ and Gaetz refused - djt just flexes the mob boss arm twisting weapon at his disposal. If Gaetz failed to follow through on a DOJ assignment - djt would leak the gory details of Gaetz's illegal sex capades and destroy him.

Putin taught djt the motivational value of juicy kompromat and how to weaponize it to your advantages.

So Gaetz was the perfect stooge to be Atty. Gen. because djt had him by the balls and under his total control.

Gaetz blindly worships the ground djt walks on. If you take even a superficial peek into their personalities it is uncanny how they are much a carbon copy of the other in so many ways.

39. Trump is a master of tricking you into thinking you won
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 06:23 PM
Nov 21

It's easy, just put up the most reprehensible piece of crap you can think of and support them to the hilt.

If they get through, it's a clear win.

If not, he puts in a slightly less scumbag and it's still a win.

Snap out out of it people.

We need to fight, fight, fight!

Quixote1818

(30,447 posts)
43. It's encouraging though. It shows the Senate isn't going to completely roll over for Trump. Nt
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 06:30 PM
Nov 21

Dem4life1970

(615 posts)
44. News Alert: Convicted Felon's Alleged Child Sex Trafficker nominee withdraws from consideration as Attorney General
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 07:04 PM
Nov 21

mzmolly

(51,740 posts)
51. I'm no fan of anyone who assocates with Trump. But,
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:13 PM
Nov 21

whatever she does to the country, it will not be done with the baggage of having drug fueled orgies with highschool students.

onenote

(44,862 posts)
62. So should Democrats vote for all of Trump's nominees
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 09:31 PM
Nov 21

On the theory that any replacements will be worse?

edhopper

(35,114 posts)
55. What she will do
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:40 PM
Nov 21

And the connections she has. She will be much more effective than Gaetz

mzmolly

(51,740 posts)
60. It's odd to see people here
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 09:15 PM
Nov 21

defending Gaetz.

Effective, while having some regard for the law, isn't as bad as a child sex trafficker, with no moral compass, no matter how you spin it.

edhopper

(35,114 posts)
61. I am not defending Gaetz
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 09:26 PM
Nov 21

He is reprehensible.I am saying she will damage the country more.

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