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jmowreader

(51,488 posts)
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:39 PM Thursday

It appears Matt Gaetz was a stalking horse

Trump probably wanted Florida AG Pam Bondi from the beginning - she's cute, she adores President-for-Life Elect Trump, and she's one of the worst fascists Trump has put forward to date. Because of how far out of whack her leanings are he knew she wouldn't get in without help...so, throw an utter sex fiend's name into the hat then when he gets chased out of consideration bring in Bondi, whose sole desirable attribute seems to be "as far as we know, she hasn't committed any heinous sex crimes yet."

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It appears Matt Gaetz was a stalking horse (Original Post) jmowreader Thursday OP
I'll bet she attends all the same sex parties as Gaetz peregrinus Thursday #1
So I am guessing Traildogbob Thursday #2
Maybe keeping her in line is why she's been named to a DOGE subcommittee. summer_in_TX Thursday #21
Could be, but I don't think the rapist is that smart. Joinfortmill Thursday #3
Someone is helping him. He is not capable of doing much work. Irish_Dem Thursday #11
traitortrump is a puppet with many masters. Hermit-The-Prog Thursday #30
I agree, but I think it goes beyond AG. Gaetz was so horrible, all the other "nominees" look better in comparison. rsdsharp Thursday #4
I agree, it is about all of them sliding in because they look better than Gaetz. Irish_Dem Thursday #12
I don't think it was necessary or worth it ThoughtCriminal Thursday #5
it's not as if she's inevitable bigtree Thursday #6
She will get edhopper Thursday #8
I read people saying that about Gaetz bigtree Thursday #17
I can't imagine anyone saying that about Gaetz FBaggins Friday #55
Another way to consider... jmowreader Thursday #9
He was inner circle. underpants Thursday #7
inner whore Skittles Thursday #14
Post removed Post removed Thursday #28
Skittles is not a male, little buddy. sheshe2 Thursday #31
WTF is wrong with you? ShazzieB Thursday #32
Skittles is going to whoop your ass. greatauntoftriplets Thursday #33
Bahahahaha sheshe2 Thursday #34
You know she would! greatauntoftriplets Thursday #35
I do!🤣 sheshe2 Thursday #37
That troll would have deserved it, too! ShazzieB Thursday #41
Indeed it was. greatauntoftriplets Friday #45
AW MAN WHAT DID I MISS Skittles Friday #42
Library girl. greatauntoftriplets Friday #43
drawing a blank Skittles Friday #44
That was one of their recent usernames. greatauntoftriplets Friday #47
AH OK YES I know now Skittles Friday #48
I figured that you would. greatauntoftriplets Friday #49
There is a reason H2O Man Friday #50
Can't blame him. greatauntoftriplets Friday #51
NOPE Skittles Thursday #10
Sorry, but that makes no sense. onenote Thursday #13
Not so sure jmowreader Thursday #15
Which repubs would give a rat's ass about those things? onenote Thursday #16
She took a $25K campaign donation from a Trump entity while she was investigating Trump university. pnwmom Thursday #18
Do you honestly think the repub senate gives a rat's ass? onenote Thursday #22
Where did I say anything now is normal? pnwmom Thursday #23
Was also a lobbyist for Saudi Arabia at the exact same time she was his lawyer. Karasu Thursday #29
She has her own scandal to overcome. sheshe2 Thursday #38
Do you think the Senate repubs are going to care? onenote Thursday #39
Whatever. sheshe2 Thursday #40
Whittling his way to Paxton n/t Cheezoholic Thursday #19
He's mocking the functionality of our government. rubbersole Thursday #20
Yes Akakoji Thursday #24
She's yet another foreign asset. Karasu Thursday #25
I Have to Wonder DET Thursday #26
No. He would have been fine with Gaetz. He had dirt on him and he was also chosen because of incompetence, loyalty. Freethinker65 Thursday #27
Good grief Prairie Gates Thursday #36
Recommended. H2O Man Friday #46
You're giving the mentally declining and weaving criminal too much credit. brush Friday #52
That's what I thought, too DFW Friday #53
I think there was a dual purpose here. Mike Niendorff Friday #54
Besides being dumb as a box of hammers, what else is in Bondi's closet? Emile Friday #56
This reminds me boonecreek Friday #57
I think a lot of us thought that, yes. yardwork Friday #58
Bondi is actually more dangerous then Gaetz dalton99a Friday #59

Traildogbob

(10,021 posts)
2. So I am guessing
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:47 PM
Thursday

Now, what was it MTG said, let’s bring the dance into the light, and expose all the sex freaks if Gaetz goes down? Gonna be like the Soul Train dance line as the scum get exposed in retribution for Mattress Matt being taken out?

summer_in_TX

(3,225 posts)
21. Maybe keeping her in line is why she's been named to a DOGE subcommittee.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 10:50 PM
Thursday

Musk, Ramaswamy, and Greene. A toxic stew.

rsdsharp

(10,157 posts)
4. I agree, but I think it goes beyond AG. Gaetz was so horrible, all the other "nominees" look better in comparison.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:52 PM
Thursday

The worst one didn’t make it through (and wasn’t intended to), so the rest will likely pass. Which means if Gabbard is DNI, Putin will be on the PDB distribution list.

Irish_Dem

(57,920 posts)
12. I agree, it is about all of them sliding in because they look better than Gaetz.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 09:25 PM
Thursday

Even some of them are more dangerous than Gaetz.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,300 posts)
5. I don't think it was necessary or worth it
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:54 PM
Thursday

He could have gotten pretty much ANYONE through a GOP controlled Senate except Gaetz.

He spent a bucket load of political capital on nominating Gaetz. All of his appointments are horrible, but this one just pissed off even his allies there who were forced to go on record pretending that this was acceptable and normal. I think it also may have killed his plan to get them to go along with the recess appointment scheme.

bigtree

(90,215 posts)
6. it's not as if she's inevitable
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 08:54 PM
Thursday

...I don't understand this thinking that one corrupt nominee is supposed to be covering for the next one he appoints.

We can all see them. Bondi is mixed up with the Trump Foundation, and it's entirely probable she won't stand up to scrutiny, either.

bigtree

(90,215 posts)
17. I read people saying that about Gaetz
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 10:01 PM
Thursday

...jfc, most of us aren't just bystanders waiting for the end of the world.

Never will be.

Any Democrat claiming the inevitability of this needs to be doing something to try and prevent it, instead of just making as if republican senators and their criming cohorts are invincible.

FBaggins

(27,739 posts)
55. I can't imagine anyone saying that about Gaetz
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 05:11 AM
Friday

Other than just the blanket assumption that republicans will reflexively support Trump - but there were two instant “no” vote republicans as soon as he was named and a dozen or more Republican “huh???!” responses.

Bondi is far more acceptable to these potential crossover votes that we absolutely need in order to defeat a nominee. Also - we have limited ammunition in this battle and much easier targets.


Yes - I think we’re being played and she was the pick all along.

jmowreader

(51,488 posts)
9. Another way to consider...
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 09:03 PM
Thursday

Gaetz is Corrupt x 1.
Bondi is Corrupt x 2. If they kick her back, he'll be advancing more and more corrupt people until Trump advances Bob Odenkirk, who has no actual legal experience to speak of but played a corrupt lawyer on TV. And then if THAT doesn't work most of Fred Phelps' children are licensed attorneys, and he'll just get one of them.

If the Senate signs off on Bondi, though, it saves him the trouble of combing Bureau of Prisons records for incarcerated lawyers.

Response to Skittles (Reply #14)

ShazzieB

(18,715 posts)
41. That troll would have deserved it, too!
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 11:58 PM
Thursday

I'm SO glad that post is gone. (I actually came back here just to check, lol!)

I can't help wondering if that was one of our "regulars" who repeatedly sign up, just to post something obnoxious and immediately get banned. If so, I'm sure MIRT will deal with them appropriately. 😁

greatauntoftriplets

(176,875 posts)
47. That was one of their recent usernames.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 12:14 AM
Friday

Joins regularly, insults members and posts conspiracy theories, anti-vax, anti-Dem. Uses lots of smileys.

onenote

(44,689 posts)
13. Sorry, but that makes no sense.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 09:36 PM
Thursday

First, having your first big nomination blow up isn't a good look for Trump.
Second, Bondi wouldn't have had any problem being confirmed if she had been put forward from the start.

jmowreader

(51,488 posts)
15. Not so sure
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 09:46 PM
Thursday

Bondi has a Trump Foundation-related scandal in her past, where TSF's fake charity donated money to her campaigns. She also has at least vestigial ties to Scientology; still-wealthy Scientologists have made large donations to her campaigns and she's spoken at their events. Dig a little and you'll find enough dirt on her to plant wheat in.

pnwmom

(109,572 posts)
18. She took a $25K campaign donation from a Trump entity while she was investigating Trump university.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 10:45 PM
Thursday

In a normal confirmation process that would be investigated as a likely bribe.

onenote

(44,689 posts)
22. Do you honestly think the repub senate gives a rat's ass?
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 10:51 PM
Thursday

What do you think is "normal" about what is going on?

Karasu

(133 posts)
29. Was also a lobbyist for Saudi Arabia at the exact same time she was his lawyer.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 11:15 PM
Thursday

Nothing weird about that.

sheshe2

(87,601 posts)
38. She has her own scandal to overcome.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 11:42 PM
Thursday

He wrote her a check for 25K to make his troubles go away.

She nixed the Trump University fraud case
In 2016, news emerged that Trump paid a $2,500 fine because his foundation improperly donated $25,000 to Bondi’s political election committee in 2013 before her office opted not to pursue a fraud investigation into Trump University. Trump eventually paid $25 million to settle fraud complaints against the now-defunct university.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/21/5-things-pam-bondi-00191199

onenote

(44,689 posts)
39. Do you think the Senate repubs are going to care?
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 11:51 PM
Thursday

I don't think a single Repub senator opposes her confirmation.

Karasu

(133 posts)
25. She's yet another foreign asset.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 10:58 PM
Thursday

Because apparently this kakistocracy still doesn't have enough of those.

DET

(1,698 posts)
26. I Have to Wonder
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 11:03 PM
Thursday

If Gaetz actually thought he could get in. When will these people learn that everything Trump touches dies.

Freethinker65

(11,147 posts)
27. No. He would have been fine with Gaetz. He had dirt on him and he was also chosen because of incompetence, loyalty.
Thu Nov 21, 2024, 11:08 PM
Thursday

Bondi is loyal and qualified, compromised but less so. More importantly, she will always know she came in second to an unqualified white male sex offender.

H2O Man

(75,529 posts)
46. Recommended.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 12:14 AM
Friday

Possibly, but there are reports that the felon was angry when republicans told him that they wouldn't support Gaetz.

I will note that Bondi is far more intelligent and disciplined than Gaetz, hence more dangerous.

brush

(57,649 posts)
52. You're giving the mentally declining and weaving criminal too much credit.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:03 AM
Friday

Those in his cabal like Stevem Miller may have recommended Bondi after Gaetz withdrew. But I think crazy trump on his best day never had any second-level thinking like that.

He really wanted fellow pedophile Gaetz as AG.

DFW

(56,606 posts)
53. That's what I thought, too
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:25 AM
Friday

Even Trump has all but admitted that he didn’t think he could get away with it.

Not that I think any of these nominees are Trump’s sole personal doing. Bannon, Miller, the usual Trump manipulators who put all the ideas and names in his mouth, these are the ones who are the origins of the nominees. Trump probably barely knew the difference between Matt Gaetz and Bill Gates, and would have been happy naming either one.

Mike Niendorff

(3,551 posts)
54. I think there was a dual purpose here.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:39 AM
Friday

First, they're still gunning for a "recess appointment" binge -- the Gaetz nomination gave them someone to sacrifice in pursuit of that. A little "give" to justify the "take". He was never intended to make it through, he was just a tool to be used in the broader project.

Second, he had become a liability, and they wanted him gone -- they needed him out of the House and they needed the House investigation buried. By convincing him to resign for a "promotion" (that he'd never get), they had a tool to both kill the ethics report and to eliminate him as a potential problem-child going forward.


MDN

boonecreek

(28 posts)
57. This reminds me
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 12:04 PM
Friday

Of Dumbya nominating Harriet Miers to the SC. When she proved to be hopelessly incompetent he withdrew her stuck us with IIRC Alito. And if TSF thought Gaetz could be confirmed, he's even dumber than I thought.

dalton99a

(84,370 posts)
59. Bondi is actually more dangerous then Gaetz
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 12:09 PM
Friday

Gaetz is basically a sex fiend and an attention whore

Bondi is smart, focused, and insidious

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