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I've heard a couple of times this morning it's time to come together as a nation. (Original Post) Autumn Nov 22 OP
Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer dalton99a Nov 22 #1
We are not and I will not be and I will not be led by that man. Or his party. Autumn Nov 22 #4
Low vote totals explained YearofAction Nov 22 #116
Yeah may be factually true but ain't gonna happen that way jimlup Nov 22 #119
Whether it's Vance OR Trump Republicans being in charge is disastrous at this stage. live love laugh Nov 22 #125
The SCOTUS unanimously ruled that the individual States could not disqualify Trump under the 14th Amendment, that only Celerity Nov 22 #120
Congress must vote YearofAction Nov 22 #122
No, Congress has to vote to ban him in the first place. Celerity Nov 22 #123
The victims YearofAction Nov 23 #139
Yeah. Sure. Ok. DiamondShark Nov 23 #129
14th Amendment Issue DallasNE Nov 23 #141
Last line YearofAction Nov 25 #152
This is what the (r) expect of us and for the most part this how we (D) act. Day after day. Year after year....... usaf-vet Nov 23 #146
Yeah, that might have helped a month ago. Think. Again. Nov 22 #2
We took down our flag cilla4progress Nov 22 #3
Joes election is still going. I'd take it down January 20th. jimfields33 Nov 22 #34
The New Yorker has an article on this blueseas Nov 22 #73
So sad. It really makes me so mad. jimfields33 Nov 22 #98
Not just no, but hell no - TBF Nov 22 #5
Do they mean how the Republicans rallied around Biden? Fuck them. 33taw Nov 22 #6
Exactly Rebl2 Nov 22 #85
It's past time. It was time when Biden was President. mzmolly Nov 22 #7
Fuck the media with a dry cactus Charging Triceratops Nov 22 #8
I second that. I have no intention of playing nice with them. They are evil. Diamond_Dog Nov 22 #9
I assume Republicans and their MSM lapdogs are saying this? yardwork Nov 22 #10
...and NO f*king HONEYMOON!! lastlib Nov 22 #47
Come together wildflowergardener Nov 22 #11
Them first. Just to prove they can do it, cuz I don't think they can. CrispyQ Nov 22 #12
That my friend IS the trump administration. Autumn Nov 22 #16
Yeah, not doing that. Voltaire2 Nov 22 #13
We've been divided DeepWinter Nov 22 #14
Translation: It's time for you to capitulate to us. GoCubsGo Nov 22 #15
That's like saying the Donner Party ought to sit down together for a picnic. RockRaven Nov 22 #17
Ok, this... SkylineChili Nov 22 #90
Don't know of any republicans, including family members, republianmushroom Nov 22 #18
In 2 months its time for operation chaos to start, do all you can do to fight fascism. nt yaesu Nov 22 #19
They have been marginalizing people like me since forever. Baitball Blogger Nov 22 #20
I am in the fall/winter of my life. Prairie_Seagull Nov 22 #21
Same Prairie Seagull. Evolve Dammit Nov 22 #88
Just no. CanonRay Nov 22 #22
We will come together wryter2000 Nov 22 #23
. . . Dem2theMax Nov 22 #50
My rule of never dating a rapists still stands! Hope22 Nov 22 #24
That's kind of like the cops Otto_Harper Nov 22 #25
If that ForgedCrank Nov 22 #26
Last time I remember these people got us to "come together" we ended up in a war with Afghanistan and Iraq.. fuck them bsiebs Nov 22 #27
Exactly what I was thinking róisín_dubh Nov 23 #133
Republicans are not on board with democracy. Passages Nov 22 #28
FUCK NO! Rapist mother fuckers go die onecaliberal Nov 22 #29
Neither will we AverageOldGuy Nov 22 #30
Any explanation for the son? Obviously he was raised right! Callie1979 Nov 22 #35
I have a MAGAt daughter that turned that way when she married a talibangelical onecaliberal Nov 22 #57
That has to be painful. Passages Nov 22 #104
I would dearly love that. The other grand parents are the controllers. onecaliberal Nov 22 #105
I'm sorry. And I'll have to remember "talibangelical"!! Callie1979 Nov 22 #106
How awful. Hopefully your grandkids will eventually be in touch in a postive way. electric_blue68 Nov 22 #107
So very sorry. Joinfortmill Nov 22 #114
Sure nowforever Nov 22 #31
Nope Sundance1220 Nov 22 #32
They ask that but never say how. Eff them. NM Grins Nov 22 #33
I'm thinking I'll be saying "told you so" a lot over the next 4 yrs. Callie1979 Nov 22 #36
My mantra for the next four liberalhistorian Nov 23 #127
And his pick for Treasury used to work closely with GEORGE SOROS!!!!!! Callie1979 Nov 23 #142
NO hadEnuf Nov 22 #37
FAWKING NO. a kennedy Nov 22 #38
Absolutely not. Bobbie Jo Nov 22 #39
Something that happens every time Cosmocat Nov 22 #40
Paa-lezz ! Nigrum Cattus Nov 22 #41
I have 2 words for that: bull and shit. Vinca Nov 22 #42
Yes, of course, the 5 sheep and the 6 wolves should come together and decide what's for dinner. surfered Nov 22 #43
The only way that I would make nice with a fascist wnylib Nov 22 #44
Hell no! endless summer Nov 22 #45
Fuck them and their Nazi ways, I will not join, will resist with every bit of my soul and body. lark Nov 22 #46
Come together TheFarseer Nov 22 #48
Well said. I agree with La Coliniere Nov 22 #95
I think that the first time that markodochartaigh Nov 22 #49
I don't "come together" with enemies of America. CaptainTruth Nov 22 #51
Come together to accept criminal behavior? nuxvomica Nov 22 #52
Come together, just like the Republicans did with President Biden. Emile Nov 22 #53
Fuck 'em. Heard the same thing when Bush stole the presidency in 2000 bif Nov 22 #54
I'm with you..not even going to go over for Thanksgiving..not in the mood n I'm sure I'll be busy. Deuxcents Nov 22 #79
I'm skipping my work X-Mas party this year. bif Nov 23 #143
Me either...fuck the right wing and Trump and those who helped elect him... Demsrule86 Nov 22 #55
Never. These MFs were nowhere to be found, when we were in power, and they didn't join our ranks then. So why in hell SWBTATTReg Nov 22 #56
Oh fuck no ismnotwasm Nov 22 #58
It is absolutely time to come together ibegurpard Nov 22 #59
Agree hannah Nov 22 #60
Yeah, fck that shit mcar Nov 22 #61
Yeah. We should get together and move on. Their way? Fuck them. Autumn Nov 22 #94
They had 4 years to do so and were buttholes about it. GreenWave Nov 22 #62
Who said this and in what context? displacedvermoter Nov 22 #63
It depends on what we should come together to do Tweedy Nov 22 #64
what they're saying barbtries Nov 22 #65
Coming together vishnura Nov 22 #66
It's time to come together as a resistance. Magoo48 Nov 22 #67
Fuck you Trump Klarkashton Nov 22 #68
that is only said when repukes take over Skittles Nov 22 #69
Sorry i will not surrender to a fascist dictator dumpt kimbutgar Nov 22 #70
No, thanks. Solly Mack Nov 22 #71
They wish. Just like they wish they had all the guns. Demobrat Nov 22 #72
Blood .. Sweat.. Tears... GETTINGTIRED Nov 22 #74
Never happening with this cult. NEVER. n/t Greybnk48 Nov 22 #75
4 years of fuck joe Biden chants, tshirts. Mugs, and bumper stickers JT45242 Nov 22 #76
A so-called "leader" who can't lead by example is not much of a leader. Kashkakat v.2.0 Nov 22 #77
I'll come together with those who want to save the nation Hassler Nov 22 #78
Who said that Joe and Meeka. nt doc03 Nov 22 #80
Like Rebl2 Nov 22 #86
I prefer Squinty and the Meat Puppet . . . hatrack Nov 23 #128
I ain't moving one inch towards MAGA Blue Owl Nov 22 #81
We weren't the ones who split the nation FullySupportDems Nov 22 #82
By who exactly Rebl2 Nov 22 #83
I don't know who it was. My husband was scrolling through the ROKU Autumn Nov 22 #97
I'm not coming together with traitors and cultists EnergizedLib Nov 22 #84
Same. Evolve Dammit Nov 22 #87
Fuuuuuck That! MrWowWow Nov 22 #89
My problem is I keep remembering a Maya Angelou quote -- Grammy23 Nov 22 #91
A nation of lazy idiots Dem4life1234 Nov 22 #92
Aw!, They always spout that crap when an R gets in. aka-chmeee Nov 22 #93
Nope. City Lights Nov 22 #96
Hear, hear! KPN Nov 22 #99
I will never go to the dark side and support the orange Hitler Mussolini! kimbutgar Nov 22 #100
Indeed!!! colorado_ufo Nov 22 #101
there is no nation stillcool Nov 22 #102
never. rampartd Nov 22 #103
Republicans are not asking for bipartisanship, they're asking for total submission. And they can kiss my ass. nt SunSeeker Nov 22 #108
That line has never been more comical than it is now. Karasu Nov 22 #109
The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion. Thomas Paine Ping Tung Nov 22 #110
Nope. Time to stand up to tyranny. Joinfortmill Nov 22 #111
I'll come together for the common good of all our fellow residents Blaukraut Nov 22 #112
Hard to be friendly and neighborly with people that want to harm or kill you. Hotler Nov 22 #113
Nope, content to remain The Enemy Within . . . hatrack Nov 22 #115
Absolutely agree FUCK truMP! jimlup Nov 22 #117
If this country capitulates to that man JR11 Nov 22 #118
I will not go quietly drmeow Nov 22 #121
You don't have to give up your values oldmanlynn Nov 22 #124
No Keepthesoulalive Nov 23 #130
Yeah, meanwhile musk is setting his followers on low ranking government workers for taunting and threats. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 23 #132
Fuck that John Shaft Nov 23 #149
No... Hell no... No fucking way. yourout Nov 22 #126
Nope, no can do. Fuck each and every one of them. NoMoreRepugs Nov 23 #131
In another universe, but here in the US... IzzaNuDay Nov 23 #134
They whined and denied having lost B.See Nov 23 #135
"Come Together" Roy Rolling Nov 23 #136
Hell NO! ScubaSteve Nov 23 #137
It would take a 9-11-level catastrophe. Buns_of_Fire Nov 23 #138
What Does That Even Mean? DallasNE Nov 23 #140
You gotta be kidding... La Coliniere Nov 23 #144
I'm too busy being "the enemy within" for that. nt Gore1FL Nov 23 #145
Fu*k Republicans mnhtnbb Nov 23 #147
Fuck that!!! NEOBuckeye Nov 23 #148
Too soon. egduj Nov 23 #150
I'm already TOGETHER with good, honest people Bread and Circuses Nov 23 #151

YearofAction

(6 posts)
116. Low vote totals explained
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 09:39 PM
Nov 22

Democrats didn't vote because Trump is already disqualified from becoming President under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, due to his orchestrating the Jan 6, 2021 insurrection into the Capitol when Congress was counting the electoral votes.

It is now up to Congress to vote, by a 2/3 majority, to allow him to become President, otherwise he cannot become President, and Vance becomes Acting President according to Section 3 of the 20th Amendment.

It is preordained.

jimlup

(8,008 posts)
119. Yeah may be factually true but ain't gonna happen that way
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 10:04 PM
Nov 22

dRump will be 47...

we are fucked

Celerity

(47,872 posts)
120. The SCOTUS unanimously ruled that the individual States could not disqualify Trump under the 14th Amendment, that only
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 10:10 PM
Nov 22
Congress could do so.

It did not, therefore your statement:

Trump is already disqualified from becoming President under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment


is false in terms of legal/political reality.


US: Supreme Court rules that disqualifying individual under 14th Amendment is for Congress in Trump ‘insurrection’ case

https://www.ibanet.org/US-Supreme-Court-rules-that-disqualifying-individual-under-14th-Amendment-is-for-Congress-in-Trump-insurrection-case

Friday 8 March 2024

The US Supreme Court has ruled that individual states don’t have authority to keep former President Donald Trump off the ballot in the 2024 presidential election. The Court said that the role of giving effect to Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution – under which Trump had been disqualified from standing in Colorado – continues to lie with Congress.

The decision paves the way for the former President to stand for election in November despite four ongoing criminal cases pending against him and lingering concern over his role in the 6 January 2021 attack by his supporters on the US Capitol. The only other challenger left in the Republican presidential nomination field, former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley, resigned from the contest on 6 March.

In a rare unanimous decision, the nine Supreme Court justices ruled on 4 March that the state of Colorado didn’t have authority to prohibit Trump from standing for national office. A group of voters in Colorado had sought to disqualify Trump under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution because, they alleged, he had committed insurrection against the government he was sworn to serve.

‘This is one of those rare, unanimous opinions. And that’s in part because of the concern for there being a patchwork of disenfranchisement if they were to rule in favour of Colorado. There was probably also a little undercurrent of the need to show some unity and not divide on political lines,’ says Laura Prather, Scholarship Officer for the IBA North American Regional Forum and a partner at law firm Haynes Boone in Austin, Texas.

snip

YearofAction

(6 posts)
122. Congress must vote
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 10:54 PM
Nov 22

"Congress could do so." Still, they must, in order to uphold the Constitution.

"The Court said that the role of giving effect to Section 3 of the 14th Amendment ... continues to lie with Congress." They must give it effect in order to uphold the Constitution. If they don't vote, why should anyone vote, ever again.

"...and there lies the Constitution, tattered and unwanted, the relic of a noble experiment."

"A republic, if you [and Congress] can keep it."

It is now up to Congress to vote, by a 2/3 majority, to allow him to become President, otherwise he cannot become President, and Vance becomes Acting President according to Section 3 of the 20th Amendment.

While it would help if Congress voted by less than 2/3 (i.e. failed) to allow Trump to become President, Trump cannot become president until his disability is removed.

Colorado didn't stop Trump from running for election, but they made a judgement. When the Chief Justice shows Trump the judgement of Congress and the judgement of Colorado, then refuses to administer the oath of office to Trump, we will know whether he will uphold the Constitution, or uphold Trump the autocrat.

Celerity

(47,872 posts)
123. No, Congress has to vote to ban him in the first place.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 11:30 PM
Nov 22

your repeated statement here:

It is now up to Congress to vote, by a 2/3 majority, to allow him to become President, otherwise he cannot become President, and Vance becomes Acting President according to Section 3 of the 20th Amendment.


is not legally or politically correct, and will be incorrect, no matter how many times you repeat it, as Congress did not bar him first.

According to the unanimous SCOTUS ruling, only Congress can disqualify him (or remove that sanction) under the 14th Amendment.

Even IF we posit that a conviction for insurrection (obviously such a conviction would have to be upheld by the SCOTUS) was enough to bar him from office (unless Congress, by a 2/3rds majority, removes that sanction) is enough to bar him, the simple fact remains that he never was legally convicted of insurrection.

YearofAction

(6 posts)
139. The victims
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 07:12 AM
Nov 23

Do you think the victims of the insurrection will worry about a conviction for insurrection? They will hold the vote.

DallasNE

(7,682 posts)
141. 14th Amendment Issue
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 09:19 AM
Nov 23

The Supreme Court has ruled on this and said that Section 3 does not apply until after Section 5 requirements have been met. Here is a link that explains it all. Not mentioned are the laws Congress passed in the late 19th century that attempted to address Section 5 requirements, perhaps because they were too specific and thus did not specifically address the Office of the President of the United States.

https://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment14/annotation15.html



YearofAction

(6 posts)
152. Last line
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 02:12 AM
Nov 25

The last line of the FindLaw document says:
"The Court did not address whether engaging in insurrectionist conduct bars a former president from holding public office."

Will the members of Congress, who were victims of the Jan. 6, 2021 insurrection at the Capitol, be concerned by the absence of Trump's conviction for the insurrection, when they vote in conformance with Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, to allow Trump to overcome his disability of engaging in the insurrection, to then become President again?

I say yes, which means Trump must also be arrested for inciting the insurrection, by the US Attorney General, simultaneously with the Chief Justice notifying Trump, in a pro forma manner, that he is disqualified from being President, otherwise Vance will let Trump, as a non-presidential free man in Mar-a-Lago, gleefully run everything into the ground. Don't tell Vance.

Otherwise, if Congress fails to have a "vote to allow", then they and us, will have to struggle against Trump, his dingbat unqualified cabinet members, his scheming regulators, his allied billionaires, and daily news-media alerts, as they purposefully tear the government down, according to one vengeful autocrat's whims over the next few years, with resistance based on whatever remains of our Constitution.

Trump doesn't like the rules setup by Congress under the Constitution, so he violates both of them with impunity, and they let him, due to fear/loyalty of half of Congress.

usaf-vet

(7,252 posts)
146. This is what the (r) expect of us and for the most part this how we (D) act. Day after day. Year after year.......
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 12:33 PM
Nov 23

.....election after election.



ENOUGH ALREADY!
 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
34. Joes election is still going. I'd take it down January 20th.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:29 PM
Nov 22

It’s like people are forgetting that we still have our very honorable president.

blueseas

(11,675 posts)
73. The New Yorker has an article on this
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 04:10 PM
Nov 22

Snip:


That was fast. Barely two weeks after winning reëlection, Donald Trump has already so thoroughly owned the news cycle that I’m not sure anyone even recalls that Joe Biden is still President. (It was his eighty-second birthday on Wednesday, by the way.) One of the themes of this year’s campaign was the apparent mass amnesia among many Americans of just what the Trump Presidency was like.



]https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/the-explosion-of-matt-gaetz-and-other-early-lessons-in-trump-20?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email


TBF

(35,007 posts)
5. Not just no, but hell no -
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 01:16 PM
Nov 22

because their terms are that it must be a Christian Nationalist nation. I won't agree to those terms. They can fuck off.

Rebl2

(15,557 posts)
85. Exactly
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 04:57 PM
Nov 22

They didn’t try to get along with Biden. Why should we get along with this new administration 🤬

 
8. Fuck the media with a dry cactus
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 01:20 PM
Nov 22

and fuck this shithole country and the stupid crooks, traitors, racists and hayseeds that run it now.

yardwork

(65,438 posts)
10. I assume Republicans and their MSM lapdogs are saying this?
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 01:21 PM
Nov 22

Yeah, they really demonstrated that in 2020.

No sale.

lastlib

(25,296 posts)
47. ...and NO f*king HONEYMOON!!
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:10 PM
Nov 22

I'm not holding hands with people who are willing to kill women, poor, elderly, immigrant, children in schools, dictate what books I can read, demand my prayers to their god, steal my vote, etc. HELL the f*ck NO!!

CrispyQ

(39,029 posts)
12. Them first. Just to prove they can do it, cuz I don't think they can.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 01:23 PM
Nov 22

I think so many of them have been jacked up on hate & anger for so long it's the drug that gets them through life.

Also...

DeepWinter

(833 posts)
14. We've been divided
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 01:25 PM
Nov 22

since the Civil war. It's been a cold/warm/hot cultural war ever since then.

I've never bought into "Diversity is our strength." We have diversity by the boatload, but that comes will all kinds of diversity you were never looking for.

GoCubsGo

(33,444 posts)
15. Translation: It's time for you to capitulate to us.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 01:26 PM
Nov 22

Fuck that shit. As others have already said, they will get from me the same that they gave to Joe and the Dems. They can kiss my fat ass.

republianmushroom

(18,709 posts)
18. Don't know of any republicans, including family members,
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 01:33 PM
Nov 22

willing to change heir position and cross over. If they don't, to hell with them.

'Come together" stick it.

yaesu

(8,557 posts)
19. In 2 months its time for operation chaos to start, do all you can do to fight fascism. nt
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 01:35 PM
Nov 22

Baitball Blogger

(49,155 posts)
20. They have been marginalizing people like me since forever.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 01:39 PM
Nov 22

Last edited Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:30 PM - Edit history (1)

That's their concept of "coming together." As long as I don't stand out in a crowd, as long as I answer their questions in a submissive manner, as long as I yield to their view of the world. That's their concept of coming together.

Just like they took four years to campaign and prepare for the next election, that's the only thing that will work for me.

Prairie_Seagull

(3,968 posts)
21. I am in the fall/winter of my life.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 01:44 PM
Nov 22

No way in hell will I see a time when the parties come together. TSF owns this and the future in the (I hope) short term.

I worry about my kids, our country and to borrow a phrase, winter is coming.

Hope22

(3,511 posts)
24. My rule of never dating a rapists still stands!
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:14 PM
Nov 22

We could never bend far enough for the wild MAGA that roam out here!

Otto_Harper

(776 posts)
25. That's kind of like the cops
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:15 PM
Nov 22

beating and stomping on the handcuffed and unconscious body on the ground yelling "Stop resisting".

ForgedCrank

(2,529 posts)
26. If that
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:16 PM
Nov 22

is how we intend to operate going forward, then we need to expect things to not only never get any better, but continue to get worse instead. Not a very logical plan if we want to make the world a better place.

bsiebs

(784 posts)
27. Last time I remember these people got us to "come together" we ended up in a war with Afghanistan and Iraq.. fuck them
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:18 PM
Nov 22

róisín_dubh

(11,956 posts)
133. Exactly what I was thinking
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 02:02 AM
Nov 23

I’m tired of watching Democrats get cowed into this fake, pseudo-patriotic bullshit (which is really nationalistic taken to the nth degree).
I’ve already made my escape a few years ago and will fight from abroad, but I’m tired of being told we need to come together with war and hate-mongers.
Fuck that noise

Passages

(1,835 posts)
28. Republicans are not on board with democracy.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:18 PM
Nov 22

I want them marginalized to low levels in congress and the Senate...I want them politically pulverized for a generation.

Let them get back to normal, I have always been so.

AverageOldGuy

(2,459 posts)
30. Neither will we
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:22 PM
Nov 22

We’re in our 80’s. Twins in early 50’s.

Single daughter is moving to Scotland.

MAGAt son’s wife left him in July, took two grandsons with her, we agreed with her. We r moving close to her and the boys. Have cut son off, did not look back when we did.

Callie1979

(541 posts)
35. Any explanation for the son? Obviously he was raised right!
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:34 PM
Nov 22

If thats too personal I understand.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
57. I have a MAGAt daughter that turned that way when she married a talibangelical
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:31 PM
Nov 22

She texted us and said she was good to never see us again. My grand kids are 9 and 7.
She was very much liberal until she became involved with them.
Said we didn’t raise her right because we didn’t indoctrinate her religiously and take her to church. Called us baby killers.

Passages

(1,835 posts)
104. That has to be painful.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 06:52 PM
Nov 22

One day your grandkids may come to see you. Life can hold some good surprises.

nowforever

(439 posts)
31. Sure
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:22 PM
Nov 22

Let's follow the orange imbecile down the road of destruction and celebrate how greed won and humanity lost

liberalhistorian

(20,864 posts)
127. My mantra for the next four
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 12:06 AM
Nov 23

years is "you fuckers voted for this!" I've already had to use it several times when MAGATheads have complained about his actions post-election, and took great pleasure in doing so!

Callie1979

(541 posts)
142. And his pick for Treasury used to work closely with GEORGE SOROS!!!!!!
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 09:50 AM
Nov 23

This may make their heads explode!!!!

Cosmocat

(15,091 posts)
40. Something that happens every time
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:41 PM
Nov 22

An R wins potus and literally never when a D wins potus.

My entire life.

Nigrum Cattus

(383 posts)
41. Paa-lezz !
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:50 PM
Nov 22

That would make it so much easier on them -
I don't remember the R's coming together behind Obama or Pres Biden

surfered

(4,921 posts)
43. Yes, of course, the 5 sheep and the 6 wolves should come together and decide what's for dinner.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:55 PM
Nov 22

wnylib

(25,183 posts)
44. The only way that I would make nice with a fascist
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:58 PM
Nov 22

Last edited Sat Nov 23, 2024, 03:12 AM - Edit history (1)

would be to gain their trust in order to work behind the scenes against them.

Example: If local cops and MAGA vigilantes want to round up immigrants, I will be looking for ways to hide them or smuggle them to safe places while smiling at the MAGAs when face to face with them.

endless summer

(55 posts)
45. Hell no!
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:00 PM
Nov 22

And I’ll say it again, HELL NO, I’m not going to find common ground with fascists and their supporters.

lark

(24,533 posts)
46. Fuck them and their Nazi ways, I will not join, will resist with every bit of my soul and body.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:03 PM
Nov 22

TheFarseer

(9,548 posts)
48. Come together
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:13 PM
Nov 22

To ignore climate change and unleash unprecedented pollution, to give tax breaks to Billionaires and get rid of regulation that protects everyone else, to get rid of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid that people depend on and many other programs that people depend on, to degrade public schools and indoctrinate children with religion and white washed history, to widen the gap between rich and poor and strip away rights for workers? NO THANKS!!

La Coliniere

(1,232 posts)
95. Well said. I agree with
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 05:41 PM
Nov 22

everything you listed. They’re the same reason I’m not making nice with MAGA. Never

markodochartaigh

(2,247 posts)
49. I think that the first time that
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:14 PM
Nov 22

I heard that we must come together, must put the past behind us and move forward together, was when Ford pardoned Nixon.

I was a teenager at the time and I didn't really understand why my older relatives were so upset. I think that I have a better appreciation now.

nuxvomica

(13,136 posts)
52. Come together to accept criminal behavior?
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:21 PM
Nov 22

That's actually what we are being asked to do.

Deuxcents

(20,907 posts)
79. I'm with you..not even going to go over for Thanksgiving..not in the mood n I'm sure I'll be busy.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 04:50 PM
Nov 22

Congrats on your 24,000 posts..standing tall all the way

bif

(24,618 posts)
143. I'm skipping my work X-Mas party this year.
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 11:36 AM
Nov 23

I do movie reviews for the local paper. It's actually a right wing rag. Won't miss spending time with those folks.

And thanks on the congrats.

Demsrule86

(71,038 posts)
55. Me either...fuck the right wing and Trump and those who helped elect him...
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:29 PM
Nov 22

I hope the suffer more than we do...

SWBTATTReg

(24,780 posts)
56. Never. These MFs were nowhere to be found, when we were in power, and they didn't join our ranks then. So why in hell
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:30 PM
Nov 22

should we join them now? They're finding out that they don't have all of the winning hands at the table.

NOTE to self/DU: don't let them roll over us, we need to be tough, and not give these thugs an inch.

hannah

(209 posts)
60. Agree
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:42 PM
Nov 22

I did watch MSNBC today, all they are saying is “ What should Democrats do” Then they have Republicans telling what we should do. It is so F’ing disgusting. Then show Bill Clinton interview. To old. Let’s get younger even if the media wants to go back.
Then a story about Bible in the classroom.I swear I am not going back and neither should any one of us.

mcar

(43,893 posts)
61. Yeah, fck that shit
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:42 PM
Nov 22

I'm also hearing Rs say we need to get over it and move on.



This from the people who still haven't conceded 2020.

Tweedy

(1,277 posts)
64. It depends on what we should come together to do
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:45 PM
Nov 22

I will come together to support the honest services doctrine, for example.

Public education support is another wonderful gift of our ancestors I will unite with my neighbors to support against all of those who would pillage our public education treasury.

Magoo48

(5,870 posts)
67. It's time to come together as a resistance.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:51 PM
Nov 22

Organized resistance, direct, indirect, passive resistance. Our answers are to be found in grassroots resistance which is imaginative and takes a multitude of forms. We must be consistent and willing to sacrifice a little time, a few creature comforts, and as much negativity as possible.

Skittles

(161,791 posts)
69. that is only said when repukes take over
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:55 PM
Nov 22

they want OBEDIENCE and COMPLIANCE!!!

FUCK THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kimbutgar

(24,168 posts)
70. Sorry i will not surrender to a fascist dictator dumpt
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:59 PM
Nov 22

I never thought in my life that the USA would become like Nazi Germany.

I will resist!

GETTINGTIRED

(340 posts)
74. Blood .. Sweat.. Tears...
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 04:13 PM
Nov 22

all were given from the ancestors, to never unite with a racist hateful oppressor or the likes there of



hard pass.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,908 posts)
77. A so-called "leader" who can't lead by example is not much of a leader.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 04:48 PM
Nov 22

The whole strategy of one side is. and has been for some time, to sow chaos, confusion, conflict. Divide and conquer, turn people against each other. So WTF are they talkinga bout when they say "come together." Seriously - it just does not compute. I really do not understand what I am being asked to say, do, believe.

Hassler

(4,014 posts)
78. I'll come together with those who want to save the nation
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 04:48 PM
Nov 22

And the constitution from the rapist fraudster.

Rebl2

(15,557 posts)
86. Like
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 04:59 PM
Nov 22

how you spelled Meekas name. Now she has become a meek little mouse and will obey her idiot of a husband.

Blue Owl

(55,246 posts)
81. I ain't moving one inch towards MAGA
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 04:51 PM
Nov 22

If those fuckers come to their senses and want to start uniting against tRump and the billionaire 1% that is fucking us all over, then maybe we’ll talk…..

FullySupportDems

(274 posts)
82. We weren't the ones who split the nation
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 04:53 PM
Nov 22

They're the "You don't belong here" party and the "get rid of people" party. They want to split the people. We can't come together on that.

Autumn

(47,251 posts)
97. I don't know who it was. My husband was scrolling through the ROKU
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 06:00 PM
Nov 22

channel looking for a movie to watch . Some idiot on a news or talking head show said it. I heard it, got pissed and he went to another channel.

EnergizedLib

(2,341 posts)
84. I'm not coming together with traitors and cultists
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 04:57 PM
Nov 22

And uniting behind a wannabe dictator.

That is all.

Grammy23

(5,934 posts)
91. My problem is I keep remembering a Maya Angelou quote --
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 05:21 PM
Nov 22

When someone shows you who they are —

Believe them.

So it is kind of hard to imagine holding hands and singing Kumbaya with any of them. I wonder why? 🙄

aka-chmeee

(1,192 posts)
93. Aw!, They always spout that crap when an R gets in.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 05:27 PM
Nov 22

When a Democrat wins, it's "Our job is to make sure this is a one term aberration."

kimbutgar

(24,168 posts)
100. I will never go to the dark side and support the orange Hitler Mussolini!
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 06:44 PM
Nov 22

He may be president in name only in my opinion.

And I don’t believe he won fair and square. Too many suspicious things, like purging voters and counting of votes. And all those ballots that were marked for dumpt and no down ticket votes.

stillcool

(33,144 posts)
102. there is no nation
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 06:46 PM
Nov 22

and those states that have a permanent republican majority will make sure of it.

SunSeeker

(54,589 posts)
108. Republicans are not asking for bipartisanship, they're asking for total submission. And they can kiss my ass. nt
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 08:37 PM
Nov 22

Ping Tung

(1,636 posts)
110. The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion. Thomas Paine
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 09:02 PM
Nov 22

Blaukraut

(5,944 posts)
112. I'll come together for the common good of all our fellow residents
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 09:16 PM
Nov 22

So if Trump and the MAGAts all of a sudden developed brains and a conscience, I'd listen. Short of that, they can kiss my ass.

Hotler

(12,662 posts)
113. Hard to be friendly and neighborly with people that want to harm or kill you.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 09:18 PM
Nov 22

My phone isn't ringing off the desk and my email is not filling up with my maga friends wanting to unite.

oldmanlynn

(573 posts)
124. You don't have to give up your values
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 11:31 PM
Nov 22

By trying to tamp down on hostility toward any other American

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,878 posts)
132. Yeah, meanwhile musk is setting his followers on low ranking government workers for taunting and threats.
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 01:16 AM
Nov 23
 

John Shaft

(808 posts)
149. Fuck that
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 12:46 PM
Nov 23

I don't condone child rape. Sick Fuck support is child rapist support.

His followers should be treated the same way child molesters are. If they condone, they agree with rape at the very least.

And I don't.

Fuck chump, to hell with his followers. I hope the GARBAGE that voted for him suffer from their red state fast food, liquor, and cigarette health problems without any insurance.

I wish nothing but the worst for all of them.

IzzaNuDay

(856 posts)
134. In another universe, but here in the US...
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 03:30 AM
Nov 23

no effing way!

and to show how I feel, come January 20,
I’m going to burn one of those flags with the dotard’s name on it. There’s a fire sale on Amazon (pardon the pun)

https://a.co/d/eASYdlE

B.See

(4,423 posts)
135. They whined and denied having lost
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 03:43 AM
Nov 23

for four fkng years and now they want to come together.

Fuck them.

Roy Rolling

(7,255 posts)
136. "Come Together"
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 04:36 AM
Nov 23

It’s the title of a Beatles song praising the glories of each individual band mate.

It marked the end of the Beatles in 1969-ish.

The point? No individual Beatle after that created world-dominating music. The individual albums were great to their fans, but not widely popular like the group. So a cohesive group makes better music.

But in context before stardom, John, Paul, and George hired a manager to fire a mediocre drummer—Pete Best—and replace him with Ringo Starr. The group rejected an element hindering group success. America must dump MAGAt preachers and proselytizers first, or there is no “come together”.

It’s just business.😂

Buns_of_Fire

(18,088 posts)
138. It would take a 9-11-level catastrophe.
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 06:06 AM
Nov 23

Like, say, a giant sinkhole opening up right beneath Mar-el-Lardo during a gala event with "President" Fatfuk and every Nazipublican politician in attendance.

Wait, did I say "catastrophe"?

Okay, then, I guess my answer would be "not in this lifetime, fuzznuts".

DallasNE

(7,682 posts)
140. What Does That Even Mean?
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 08:33 AM
Nov 23

It sounds like a demand, which is the opposite of coming together.

La Coliniere

(1,232 posts)
144. You gotta be kidding...
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 11:58 AM
Nov 23

it’s fight the MAGA or we go down as a nation. No other response seems rational or responsible.

mnhtnbb

(32,273 posts)
147. Fu*k Republicans
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 12:33 PM
Nov 23

and anyone else who voted for that treasonous orange sack of $hit. Fu*k them all, every day, and twice on Sunday.

NEOBuckeye

(2,858 posts)
148. Fuck that!!!
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 12:45 PM
Nov 23

No way in hell. Not as long as Pumpkin-Spice Palpatine sits in the White House.

Bread and Circuses

(480 posts)
151. I'm already TOGETHER with good, honest people
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 03:35 PM
Nov 23

I know who I can trust, I know who supports me and I know who loves our country.

I’m staying in my 💙circle! We’ve always been together and supporting our constitution.

Never, Never, Never do I need to be together with racist , violent, misogynistic, fascists traitors.

Get it, Media. We are done with you . Don’t tell us to make nice with pedophiles, rapists, and felons.

Just say NO.

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