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There is something definitely wrong when (Original Post) samplegirl Nov 2024 OP
No. Fucking. Shit. Blue Owl Nov 2024 #1
The magic 'R' Mr.Bee Nov 2024 #31
Ah ya think??? a kennedy Nov 2024 #2
I get so pissed every time samplegirl Nov 2024 #8
He said, Rebl2 Nov 2024 #3
just the fact that repukes are still covering up for that pervert Gaetz Skittles Nov 2024 #4
He needs to leave! samplegirl Nov 2024 #7
HE NEEDS TO BE IN JAIL Skittles Nov 2024 #14
A whole bunch of em B.See Nov 2024 #18
💯 pandr32 Nov 2024 #5
Understatement Linda ladeewolf Nov 2024 #6
What happened to the #Me Too movement..wasn't there legislation on that matter? Deuxcents Nov 2024 #9
Good question samplegirl Nov 2024 #38
So why is this acceptable now? LilElf70 Nov 2024 #10
The repukes have BigMin28 Nov 2024 #25
Add in Trump appointing adulterous Callista Gingrich as... 3catwoman3 Nov 2024 #36
I feel he should run again samplegirl Nov 2024 #39
Agreed samplegirl Nov 2024 #50
Never forget that as far as Franken goes, we did it to ourselves. Really, really dumb of us Dems. Hekate Nov 2024 #11
We fell for their "perfect as the enemy of the good." ancianita Nov 2024 #16
As we too often -- all by ourselves Hekate Nov 2024 #19
Fact is, we actually convict our criminals. They elect them president. ancianita Nov 2024 #23
That's for sure!! samplegirl Nov 2024 #40
the quest against Franken in the "holier than thou moment" peacebuzzard Nov 2024 #46
Yes Meowmee Nov 2024 #12
We keepthemhonestO Nov 2024 #13
The politically spread double standard. The lawless criticize the flawless. Tan suits, laughter, prices, censorship. ancianita Nov 2024 #15
I still have open nerve endings about railroading Franken. LakeArenal Nov 2024 #17
IOKIYAR - it's ok if you're a republican... Wounded Bear Nov 2024 #20
Al Franken didn't have to step down. barbtries Nov 2024 #21
He said later he regretted it Meowmee Nov 2024 #32
Schumer, with the support of other Dems, told Al he had to resign spooky3 Nov 2024 #33
Yes I read that elsewhere at the time. Meowmee Nov 2024 #34
Boy he should come out samplegirl Nov 2024 #41
he did barbtries Nov 2024 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Nov 2024 #22
That is the Six117 Nov 2024 #24
over a self-acknowledged stupid photo. Thanks Gilibrand Evolve Dammit Nov 2024 #26
Better yet, does anybody even REMEMBER what Van Jones or Valerie Jarrett ... TrollBuster9090 Nov 2024 #27
A real travesty! I agree 100%! Diamond_Dog Nov 2024 #28
Double standard The Wizard Nov 2024 #29
I realized that a few days ago Sucha NastyWoman Nov 2024 #30
For people saying it is a double standard. markodochartaigh Nov 2024 #35
Gillibrand should of kept her samplegirl Nov 2024 #42
They should have given him due process as he asked. spooky3 Nov 2024 #43
Gaetz didn't keep his job. iemanja Nov 2024 #44
So I saw samplegirl Nov 2024 #49
OMG YES maybe because Al Franken was NOT part of the group of deplorables TommieMommy Nov 2024 #45
Looks like.. Escape Nov 2024 #47
Oh the Horror!! Mr.Bee Nov 2024 #48
I'd said it was a trap even back then Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #51
And Gillibrand wants to run the DNC now nt doc03 Nov 2024 #52
Has she spoken out as strongly and as often about Gaetz? keithbvadu2 Nov 2024 #53
We always take a butter knife to a fight and that is how we are where we are. Doodley Nov 2024 #54

Rebl2

(15,801 posts)
3. He said,
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 07:29 PM
Nov 2024

I believe, even though he won his seat in congress, he won’t go back as a congressman. At least that’s what I read earlier today.

Skittles

(162,406 posts)
4. just the fact that repukes are still covering up for that pervert Gaetz
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 07:44 PM
Nov 2024

while actively trashing trans gals in bathrooms - repukes are serious fucking hypocrites

Skittles

(162,406 posts)
14. HE NEEDS TO BE IN JAIL
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 08:48 PM
Nov 2024

WTF, Hunter Biden was a such big threat but they are A-OK with this fucking pervert? WTF

B.See

(4,815 posts)
18. A whole bunch of em
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 08:56 PM
Nov 2024

need to be in jail... starting with their antichrist. Like I wrote the other day, they'd need build a facility to house all of them.

samplegirl

(12,664 posts)
38. Good question
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 02:46 AM
Nov 2024

I don't know sometimes I think Democrats are just too complacent. I can't understand why we weren't fighting this Matt Gaetz thing tooth and nail!

LilElf70

(758 posts)
10. So why is this acceptable now?
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 08:39 PM
Nov 2024

Note: I totally agree with your statement. So what is the difference? Answer: Trump.

Think about it.

Then: We had a respectable democracy, where standards were very common and people were looked up to because of those standards. Back then, if you step outside those standards, you're out.

Now: It's expected to be disrespectful with no standards. Powerful people say fuck you, I'll do what I want. I wonder who brought this change to the landscape.

Now think about this. Gaetz can't hold a candle to Trump. And this loser went out of his way to lie to the American people (again) to get his job back, which he lost 4 years ago. Are we all living a nightmare? This type of shit should have never happened in this country.

If Franken ever runs for anything in the future, he should and will win. He's an angel

BigMin28

(1,619 posts)
25. The repukes have
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 09:50 PM
Nov 2024

been this way as my whole adult life. While they were trying to impeach Clinton, Newt Gingrich was doing worse with his third wife, while still married to his second wife. They excuse anything repubs do. It's blatant hypocrisy. But they don't care.

Another example. Remember when President Obama wanted to address the nation students. Repub politicians and citizen lost their mind. They said President Obama was seeking to indoctrinate. Some school districts allowed parents to opt out. So their children would not have to hear the president's speech. Yet we have a religious extremist in Oklahoma forcing all school children listen to his prayers for and remarks about tsf. Actual indoctrination. Plain and simple. But it's okay. As long as you are a repuke.

3catwoman3

(26,329 posts)
36. Add in Trump appointing adulterous Callista Gingrich as...
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 11:57 PM
Nov 2024

...ambassador to The Vatican.

I'm not Catholic, or any other flavor of Christianity, or any conventional religion, but found that extremely offensive.

samplegirl

(12,664 posts)
39. I feel he should run again
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 02:48 AM
Nov 2024

But he probably is glad he's not in office and don't want to ever again!

samplegirl

(12,664 posts)
50. Agreed
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 06:09 PM
Nov 2024

but I don't think he will. What a bunch of despicable
people that trumps circle is!

Hekate

(96,604 posts)
11. Never forget that as far as Franken goes, we did it to ourselves. Really, really dumb of us Dems.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 08:45 PM
Nov 2024

ancianita

(39,939 posts)
23. Fact is, we actually convict our criminals. They elect them president.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 09:05 PM
Nov 2024

Now they're about to do it to themselves.

We tried our best, now there's nothing we can do.
We could alleviate suffering, as always, but what's the point with those who bite the hand.

peacebuzzard

(5,369 posts)
46. the quest against Franken in the "holier than thou moment"
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 06:47 AM
Nov 2024

exposed all of the weak links. It disgusted and depressed me for quite some time.
I wish we still had his loud and sane voice among us.
Franken was and still is a hero; I miss him.

ancianita

(39,939 posts)
15. The politically spread double standard. The lawless criticize the flawless. Tan suits, laughter, prices, censorship.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 08:48 PM
Nov 2024

The list is endless.
Both-sides corporate media and their owners make sure to treat the double standard as a feature of party politics, as if both parties are equally flawed.

LakeArenal

(29,941 posts)
17. I still have open nerve endings about railroading Franken.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 08:55 PM
Nov 2024

And I feel some of the same characters of that debacle are responsible for this November debacle.

barbtries

(30,236 posts)
21. Al Franken didn't have to step down.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 09:04 PM
Nov 2024

He made what he believed to be an ethical decision. I begged him not to.

Also, I have a question: I thought Gaetz resigned? Did he un-resign?

spooky3

(37,137 posts)
33. Schumer, with the support of other Dems, told Al he had to resign
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 10:43 PM
Nov 2024

Or they would force him out. Not much of a choice, especially if you care about Dem goals.

Lots of sources, including Jane Mayer’s New Yorker article and https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49074194.amp

barbtries

(30,236 posts)
37. he did
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 12:20 AM
Nov 2024

i watch his podcast occasionally and he mentioned that on one episode.

if only. he is great.

Response to samplegirl (Original post)

TrollBuster9090

(6,049 posts)
27. Better yet, does anybody even REMEMBER what Van Jones or Valerie Jarrett ...
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 10:00 PM
Nov 2024

were chased out of the Obama Administration for? It was chicken feed, as I recall. (Van Jones signed a petition without reading who had sponsored it first, and I think Valerie Jarrett said something nasty about Republicans while that little shit, O'Keiffe had a hidden camera on her.)

I'm glad that, at the end of the Obama Administration, Democrats finally stopped being so nervous about what Republicans MIGHT SAY if they actually try to do something to help the people who elected them. I'm thinking particularly of Obama's refusal to fire Susan Rice, just because Trey Gowdy-Doody was making noises about her.

I'll tell you this, though. If there is ever another Democratic Party President, they are not firing ONE DAMNED PERSON over a f--king CONTRIVED 'scandal.' If Republicans are defending a SecDef nominee who drugged and date raped women, they have ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIBILITY as critics.

markodochartaigh

(2,426 posts)
35. For people saying it is a double standard.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 11:23 PM
Nov 2024

Actually Al Franken was railroaded over an indelicate photo on a USO tour and allegations from several women (at least one of which was assoxiated with Roger Stone) which quickly fell apart.

The allegations against Gaetz are far more substantial.

This isn't a both sides issue.



https://www.npr.org/2019/07/25/745232345/journalist-jane-mayer-on-the-many-mysteries-in-the-accusations-against-al-franke

spooky3

(37,137 posts)
43. They should have given him due process as he asked.
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 03:08 AM
Nov 2024

But they just wanted the matter to go away. I wrote to my senators at the time to urge this but it made no difference.

samplegirl

(12,664 posts)
49. So I saw
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 05:34 PM
Nov 2024

The rapist should be in jail and I hope bad fate follows him wherever he goes!!!!!

Escape

(129 posts)
47. Looks like..
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 11:17 AM
Nov 2024

Trump's entire cabinet will be comprised of people who would be in prison if there had been a real Attorney General in office for the last four years.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
51. I'd said it was a trap even back then
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 06:12 PM
Nov 2024

And there's no way in HELL Franken should have quit unless multiple Republicans (Donnie included) followed him right out the door...

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