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ColinC

(10,952 posts) Sat Nov 23, 2024, 10:09 AM Nov 23

My latest delusion: Class action lawsuit against Musk/ Trump

Most class action lawsuits don't do shit to the people they are targeting. But if the people in question are representative of the entire country, happen to be the richest people in the world, and whose class is representative of a large portion of the country, how far could one go in the end? 🤔

Can you successfully bring a class action lawsuit against the president of the United States?

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My latest delusion: Class action lawsuit against Musk/ Trump (Original Post) ColinC Nov 23 OP

No, and the Supreme Court would also ensure that won't happen. JohnSJ Nov 23 #1

If it gets to the supreme court, it would mean it already likely happened ColinC Nov 23 #2

It will be ruled down in the lower courts before it gets there because of the SC immunity decision this year. JohnSJ Nov 23 #3

The immunity decision protects him from criminal prosecution ColinC Nov 23 #4

Not going to happen Colin. it will be argued it is part of his "official duties". People may not comprehend the JohnSJ Nov 23 #7

Yeah probably. ColinC Nov 23 #8

What legal cause of action would this class action be based upon? onenote Nov 23 #5

I imagine if things are as bad as folks think they might be, we can find a couple. ColinC Nov 23 #6

JohnSJ

(96,812 posts)

1. No, and the Supreme Court would also ensure that won't happen.

Reply to ColinC (Original post)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 10:18 AM

Nov 23

ColinC

(10,952 posts)

2. If it gets to the supreme court, it would mean it already likely happened

Reply to JohnSJ (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 10:22 AM

Nov 23

Also scotus hasn't done anything to reverse the huge rewards in any other Trump lawsuit. Why would they even care about this one? Especially considering this process wouldn't run it's course for half a decade or more?

JohnSJ

(96,812 posts)

3. It will be ruled down in the lower courts before it gets there because of the SC immunity decision this year.

Reply to ColinC (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 10:25 AM

Nov 23

ColinC

(10,952 posts)

4. The immunity decision protects him from criminal prosecution

Reply to JohnSJ (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 10:29 AM

Nov 23

Not civil suits.

JohnSJ

(96,812 posts)

7. Not going to happen Colin. it will be argued it is part of his "official duties". People may not comprehend the

Reply to ColinC (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 10:38 AM

Nov 23

gravity of what happened on November 5, but our Democracy is pretty much over. Unless something unforeseen happens, the country as a democracy is essentially gone.

Due process will be thrown out the door. I wonder how many people will wrongly be thrown out the door with his mass deportation policy.

I think there is a real possibility we will become a police state.

ColinC

(10,952 posts)

8. Yeah probably.

Reply to JohnSJ (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 10:41 AM

Nov 23

Hope springs eternal for me though. I guess...

onenote

(44,805 posts)

5. What legal cause of action would this class action be based upon?

Reply to ColinC (Original post)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 10:32 AM

Nov 23

Seems like a salient point missing from the OP.

ColinC

(10,952 posts)

6. I imagine if things are as bad as folks think they might be, we can find a couple.

Reply to onenote (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 10:37 AM

Nov 23

Point is that it is a possible tool utilizing the courts that isn't dominated by the same partisan influences as the more common constitutional devices provided to challenge government wrongdoing.

One I have in mind is potential federal worker purges.

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