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niyad

(123,173 posts)
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 09:36 PM Nov 2024

President Carter: I was thinking about him, about how he managed to

hang in there long enough to vote for Kamala, and how we had hoped he would live long enough to see her inaugurated. Of course, now January 20th will usher in the reign of terror, part deux, and it occurs to me to wonder about what happens if President Carter dies after that date. Would there be a state funeral? Any kind of recognition, anything?

The things one wonders about on a cold and windy afternoon.

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President Carter: I was thinking about him, about how he managed to (Original Post) niyad Nov 2024 OP
I'm sure the Carter family has this figured out IzzaNuDay Nov 2024 #1
Yeah keepthemhonestO Nov 2024 #2
You are sort of missing the point. The sitting president basically approves niyad Nov 2024 #5
So you think he's going to disapprove a state funeral ? arthritisR_US Nov 2024 #27
I spit my coffee out John Shaft Nov 2024 #31
It doesn't make me laugh, I know he's a decrepit piece of arthritisR_US Nov 2024 #34
he's a disgusting filthy shit ass rapist pig. John Shaft Nov 2024 #36
I don't think he would disapprove-- there is protocol IzzaNuDay Nov 2024 #33
Good point, thank you 👍🏼 arthritisR_US Nov 2024 #35
Not to be cold but it's very possible Carter doesn't have many lucid moments to even understand what's happened. Self Esteem Nov 2024 #3
You know, I rather hope you are correct. niyad Nov 2024 #6
The Carter Family will follow President Carter's wishes and that is what is important to me Deuxcents Nov 2024 #4
I am only talking about whether there would be a state funeral. niyad Nov 2024 #7
Seems like it would be automatic or standard protocol for a former president soandso Nov 2024 #8
One would think so. But the sitting president apparently has the final say, niyad Nov 2024 #9
During his first term he allowed a state funeral for John McCain soandso Nov 2024 #10
Who was also an "r". And he is far uglier, far more hateful, now. niyad Nov 2024 #11
John McCain's final message for the President William769 Nov 2024 #16
I think that he will have a State Funeral Polybius Nov 2024 #12
One does hope. But, again, he is much nastier, more vindictive now. niyad Nov 2024 #25
Wikipedia states Carter has plans filed for a State funeral. Joinfortmill Nov 2024 #13
Did wiki also indicate it needs the sitting president's approval? niyad Nov 2024 #24
Wow! kentuck Nov 2024 #14
I do not know, but would not put anything past that monster in human form. niyad Nov 2024 #23
He could still see President Harris. usonian Nov 2024 #15
Maybe President Carter will live longer Tribetime Nov 2024 #17
I hope so Polybius Nov 2024 #19
Don't authoritarian Strong Leaders markodochartaigh Nov 2024 #18
Could well be! niyad Nov 2024 #22
I'm sure he will but that republicans won't attend on orders of trump dsharp88 Nov 2024 #20
I think you just wrote the script! niyad Nov 2024 #21
A side note VGNonly Nov 2024 #26
Why bring her into this? niyad Nov 2024 #28
Of course IF.... CTyankee Nov 2024 #29
Will Donald reffuse to fly the American flag at half mast, again? keithbvadu2 Nov 2024 #30
I thought about him after the election JI7 Nov 2024 #32

IzzaNuDay

(933 posts)
1. I'm sure the Carter family has this figured out
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 09:59 PM
Nov 2024

But I would not count on the dotard being invited to give a eulogy. The Bush family certainly didn’t invite the dotard when GHWB died in 2018.

keepthemhonestO

(626 posts)
2. Yeah
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 10:08 PM
Nov 2024

I'm pretty confident I remember him saying he does not want trump at his funeral. Anyone remember that?

niyad

(123,173 posts)
5. You are sort of missing the point. The sitting president basically approves
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 10:10 PM
Nov 2024

a state funeral. And who will that be on January 20?

arthritisR_US

(7,766 posts)
34. It doesn't make me laugh, I know he's a decrepit piece of
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 07:43 AM
Nov 2024

shit but I would hope the humanity of the office would lead him to behave otherwise, watch me be wrong, I hope not but I’m not holding my breath.

 

John Shaft

(808 posts)
36. he's a disgusting filthy shit ass rapist pig.
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 10:39 AM
Nov 2024

He literally pisses on the dignity of the office.

IzzaNuDay

(933 posts)
33. I don't think he would disapprove-- there is protocol
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 07:32 AM
Nov 2024
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/analyses/presidential-orders-upon-the-death-president

It would behoove the dotard to at least follow protocol. After all, he has fewer days ahead of him than behind him; he might want to take notes. His gal MTG is from Georgia too….

Self Esteem

(2,048 posts)
3. Not to be cold but it's very possible Carter doesn't have many lucid moments to even understand what's happened.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 10:08 PM
Nov 2024

Deuxcents

(21,728 posts)
4. The Carter Family will follow President Carter's wishes and that is what is important to me
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 10:10 PM
Nov 2024

And if I was a betting woman, TSF will have nothing to do, say or travel for any of it. President Carter professed to be a Christian and he walked the walk n talked the talk but I doubt seriously he’d have an invitation set aside for TSF who is morally bankrupt. I’d also bet he’s made his peace with his Creator about his life’s decisions here on Earth but whatever happens, my deepest respect for him remains.

niyad

(123,173 posts)
9. One would think so. But the sitting president apparently has the final say,
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 10:21 PM
Nov 2024

although a family can actually decline the honour.

William769

(58,503 posts)
16. John McCain's final message for the President
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 11:48 PM
Nov 2024
In Washington, even death is political – a fact McCain well understood as a sought-after eulogizer himself, and by planning his funeral rites to exclude the President, he will be making an unmistakable posthumous statement directed at the White House.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/27/politics/mccain-message-trump/index.html

John McCain may have been a "r" but I liked him. He could not have had a better message than the one televised to the nation.

EDIT: P.S. I absolutley love Jimmy Carter.

Polybius

(19,719 posts)
12. I think that he will have a State Funeral
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 11:38 PM
Nov 2024

Trump was no fan at all of George Bush Sr., and he had one when he passed away in 2018.

Joinfortmill

(17,777 posts)
13. Wikipedia states Carter has plans filed for a State funeral.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 11:43 PM
Nov 2024

I'm on my phone and can't copy the link.

kentuck

(113,470 posts)
14. Wow!
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 11:44 PM
Nov 2024

Would he order such a dastardly deed? Not knowing that someday his time will come, and how does he want to be remembered? As the Godfather? As a jokester and stand-up comedian? As a member of an elite club of billionaires that rule over their countries? Or as a patriot that loved his country? Which do you think?

usonian

(17,034 posts)
15. He could still see President Harris.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 11:46 PM
Nov 2024

Do it, Joe, unless there's a monster compelling reason not to.

markodochartaigh

(2,611 posts)
18. Don't authoritarian Strong Leaders
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 12:10 AM
Nov 2024

often allow their foes an ostentatious display as a way of appropriating some of the public good will for the deceased? Certainly Republicans have no shame in trying to steal the good will from leaders that they fought intensely like JFK and Dr King.

dsharp88

(517 posts)
20. I'm sure he will but that republicans won't attend on orders of trump
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 12:15 AM
Nov 2024

Fox will show only highlights of mourners when they catch them in a yawn or looking to the side and then falsely claim this was how they and the rest of the crowd acted when the procession passed. Then they’ll show a clip of trump reading a prepared statement in which he ad libs about how unfair the media is treating him by giving some dead guy all this attention.

CTyankee

(65,989 posts)
29. Of course IF....
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 03:20 AM
Nov 2024

she gets paid a hefty sum. She already gets paid to appear by his side and that's cute. I never recall hearing about Pat Nixon getting paid to be seen with Tricky Dick.

JI7

(91,745 posts)
32. I thought about him after the election
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 06:44 AM
Nov 2024

and wanted to post something but it just felt too depressing.

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