It's official: Trump got away with J6

[Dennis Donovan]

...and in weeks, those who committed the J6 crimes will be getting a pass.

I'm sickened by this...

[Irish_Dem]

1. Treason and insurrection against the US are now legal.

[brush]

3. Yep, the sick, megalomaniacal fuck got away with staging a coup against the US government.

And is now president-elect with total immunity. FUCK.

Fascism 'R Us.

Thanks, Garland.

[Irish_Dem]

6. And thanks to half the US population.

Who think electing a dangerous psychopath
with a known criminal record to the WH is a good idea.

[allegorical oracle]

12. Related to your point, I've been wondering whether any polls have asked voters if they

voted for TSF to prevent him from going to prison. Has anybody heard if that was a consideration among Repugs?

[Irish_Dem]

16. Interesting question. We know the answer.

Yes of course some magas voted for Trump for precisely that reason.
The cult adores him and loves all of his crimes.

[allegorical oracle]

27. Just wondered if that could partially explain why young men voted for *him* in

higher numbers than in the past.

[Irish_Dem]

28. Could be.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

77. "He's a fighter and he thinks like I do!"

I hope the face-eating leopard is very busy with this bunch.

[peregrinus]

38. Anybody who voted for him to "own the libs"

I’d say voted for him to stay out of jail.

[brush]

61. My point is they never woud've had a chance to vote for trump if Garland had move to prosecuted trump as soon...

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as he, Garland, had taken office. trump should've been prosecuted and jailed a couple of years ago. We all saw him incite the insurrection on the Capitol Building, he watch it on TV, probably hoping it would succeed, which in fact is another crime. Dereliction of duty and his oath to defend the Constitution and nation.

He just watched the violence for three and a half hours before a woman, Cassidy Hutchinson somehow got him off his ass to get before a mic and tell the rioters to go home.

Again,he watch for three and a half hours. All the evidence Garland needed to convict was on TV.

[LearnedHand]

86. "Be there. Will be wild."

I don't know how much more damning this could have been as evidence. The fucking bastard planned it on national television.

[Irish_Dem]

88. We saw his crimes in real time on TV.

Didn't matter to the MAGAs.
The more crimes the better.

[DarcieD]

114. Garland is a weed or a bush or tree

or some other kind of plant

DId Biden know? How could he not know, while 2 years went by, all the evidence in the open. Garland - and Biden - let Trump off, knowing what he was planning to do. Project 2025 was out there for 2 years, and those on the inside knew what was in it long before that.

[GreenWave]

13. Agreed except where they "think".

[bdamomma]

43. Hey Irish_Dem

I will say this with some snark, but we will be #1 for the biggest corrupt country,

[Irish_Dem]

46. We can at least tie with Russia, China, NK, Iran,

[bdamomma]

49. so sad

we have gotten to this point.

[Irish_Dem]

50. Yes.

We just keep facing one loss after another.
The loss of what was America.

[Magoo48]

74. We are no longer what we use to think we were. That's a good place to begin.

Resist everything.

[Bluethroughu]

80. None of those country's populations attacked their own government,

And got away with it, so we're #1 in the world of corruption, ask Elon.

Faking a lottery for election interference, he sits next to an insurrectionist president that created an agency to tear down all the others.

Garland is really working hard.

[DFW]

92. 3 out of 4 of them did it and got away with it

Russia in 1917, China in 1949, Iran in 1979.

The difference is that Russia and China replaced bad with bad, and Iran replaced not-so-good with awful. North Korea has been awful since its inception, and Biden’s USA managed to replace pretty good with a known evil.

We got the prize for worst voluntary downgrade ever.

[TBF]

72. "Half the US population" is stretching it a bit don't you think -

63% of eligible voters turned up to vote. That is hardly "half the US population". A little better than 20% of the US population voted for Trump. That's hardly a majority.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

78. I imagine Irish Dem was describing half the population that voted.

of which Trump received just about 50%. Even a little more than 20% as you described is 20% too much. Trump is a lying criminal who has the black heart of a psychopath.

[TBF]

90. I agree of course re psychopath -

just pointing out that he does not have an overwhelming amount of people on his side. Sometimes it feels that way living here in Texas, but then I watch as they gerrymander, drop folks off the voting rolls, etc. I don't like to give him any more credit than he deserves.

I guess I still think it's worth fighting back.

[Irish_Dem]

94. A significant percentage of the population simply does not care.

They didn't bother to vote because they are lazy or are fine with a psychopath
mob boss destroying the country.

[Irish_Dem]

93. Not voting was a vote for Trump by default.

They knew what was at stake and didn't care, didn't bother to stop a psychopath from
taking over the US.

[Irish_Dem]

91. The voters who didn't vote, don't care if a psychopath runs the country.

Their non vote was a vote by default.

No, I am not stretching things at all.

It is fact.

[TBF]

96. lol - ok if you say so.

You're determined to win so there, you win. I will just be depressed because what's the use ...

So, there, you have what you want. Now why you want that is the real question ...

[Irish_Dem]

97. Personal attacks are a sign of a very weak argument.

Your argument cannot stand on the merits, so lying and insulting is all you have.

[TBF]

106. I already did the math -

and you clearly did not. Why give Trump more credit than he deserves? You can insult me all you want, but it's not going to change the math.

[ReRe]

111. The ones who didn't vote

showed that they have absolutely no judgement.

They were incapable of weighing out the consequences of their vote.

They were one issue voters.

They proved it was their way or the highway.

In less than 2 months, every citizen will reap what they have sewn.

Multitudes of people are going to die. Shame on them.

[bdamomma]

54. Garland

He's a federalist, isn't he??? I'm sure there's skeletons in his closet.

[Irish_Dem]

65. Looks that way, doesn't it.

He is more complicit than incompetent.

Protecting Trump and the J6 members of congress was his top priority.

[0rganism]

7. legal *for some*

We'll find out the details soon enough, but the saying about how the law protects some while binding others will be visibly proven yet again.

[Irish_Dem]

10. For rich white magas.

[0rganism]

20. and the "poorly educated" white magats who love them

[allegorical oracle]

18. If I understood it correctly, MSNBC just reported that a dismissal of the documents case has

been submitted in Florida -- for jerkwad only, not his two employees. But he can always pardon them later.

(Feels like the mob has taken over my country.)

[Irish_Dem]

22. A crime syndicate HAS taken over the US.

Ruled by two mob bosses.
Putin and Trump.

The Russian mob is particularly scary.

[allegorical oracle]

30. For sure. R ussian motto: "Always stay on the ground floor of buildings." But if *he* starts

on a reprisal binge, it will be like Pooty-poot 2.0.

[Irish_Dem]

34. Trump has been taking lessons from Putin.

And Putin is his boss, so it is already Putin 2.0 here in the US.

[bdamomma]

47. Yea,

the Russian mob poisons and pushes (their victims) out of windows.

[Irish_Dem]

48. I sincerely hope Trump tries to cross Putin.

[bdamomma]

51. In regards

to Iran, they don't particularly care for the felon. Do they???

[Irish_Dem]

55. None of the countries in the autocratic bloc like or trust each other.

Russia, China, NK, Iran, Saudi.

It is like when the US and UK made Stalin and Russia an ally during WWII.
Churchill hated Stalin so much he let FDR handle Stalin.

[bdamomma]

60. Just doing this

smh.

[AZ8theist]

71. Not a chance. He's too fucking stupid to even figure out HOW to do that.....

[Wuddles440]

8. True...

but only if you're a member of the MAGAT Party.

[NCDem47]

17. Until used against Democrats...and then Rs will be about upholding law and order (again).

And they'll be given wiiiiiiiide bearth to decide who is a patriot and who is a terrorist.

[Irish_Dem]

44. The law is now used to protect the GOP and persecute the Dems.

[bdamomma]

39. sickening

I guess now everyone in his cult will be thinking that they can get away with crimes, because their dear leader can.

[NotHardly]

62. It was dismissed with prejudice, meaning the charges can be brought again later.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice_(legal_term) Be sure to read the whole thing and the differences between "with" and "without".

[Dave Id]

81. Treason against the US is now legal?

Only for Putin ass kissing Republicans. Betcha any Democrat who tried the same thing would have been serving a life sentence or sentened to death. Welcome to MAGA world.

[FakeNoose]

89. Only if you are a Repuke and a President

[vapor2]

108. Plus espionage?

[bluestarone]

2. Feels like the knife in my back from the election loss has

Just been TWISTED. FUCK them all.

[Initech]

4. Yup, rule of law doesn't matter anymore.

Fuck Orange Fuckface. And also fuck every single "law enforcement" agency that supports this monster.

[Hekate]

19. Oh it matters, all right. There's always been a 2-tier system based on skin-color...

Now it’s explicitly about who you know and how much money gets floated. The orange monster and enablers have laid this bare.

You and I, otoh, need to make sure we pay our taxes and don’t try to bribe anybody. We are not playing in the same league at all.

[Initech]

24. To me it was totally obscene how many "law enforcement" agencies supported him.

At first I thought it was a joke, but then more and more jumped on the bandwagon. This is a true travesty.

[Hekate]

69. It is obscene as hell. Meanwhile, yet another mother died in Texas while miscarrying and a friend of mine...

…who is trans is feeling the fear.

[J_William_Ryan]

5. It was nave to believe Trump would face actual justice.

Even before the election, had he lost, Trump wasn’t going to spend any time in prison or be otherwise incarcerated.

There is no equal justice under the law.

[Irish_Dem]

11. Fitzmas all over again.

[tenderfoot]

23. Not Mueller Time?

[Irish_Dem]

25. That too. Lucy and the football scene over and over.

[tenderfoot]

29. It's like history keeps repeating itself

[Irish_Dem]

31. Yes. The worst parts of history being repeated all at one time. :(

[tenderfoot]

41. And there's never any justice for it. Ever.

Nüremburg didn't do anything. Most of those assholes got away with it.

The South got away with the Civil War.

Calley got away with My Lai.

North and Reagan got away with Iran/Contra.

Bush & Cheney 9/11/Iraq/Afghanistan.

Rinse. Repeat.

Also notice that all of the above involved the right.

[Irish_Dem]

45. The best sociopaths make the law, not break it.

[BigmanPigman]

99. Kissinger and Nixon, 1973 coup in Chili.

[walkingman]

15. Right - we all knew this but once again "truth dies" in the US justice system.

[Orrex]

118. Yet every time someone expressed doubt or impatience....

The cheerleaders swooped in to berate, ridicule, and browbeat them into submission.

Because when the nation’s survival is at stake, there is nothing more important than mocking one’s fellow Democrats. How else will the cheerleaders convince themselves that they know anything?

[allegorical oracle]

9. Gawd. The criming SF can run amok. Not only did he barge through the Constitution, but he'll

pardon the rest of the J6 criminals. Bet he pardons Alex Jones, too.

[kelly1mm]

36. 1. Alex Jones was not charged with a crime. 2. Alex Jones's civil court judgements were from State courts, not federal

(not that it matters, the pardon power is only over federal criminal charges/convictions).

[allegorical oracle]

104. Oh that's good. I just feel so sorry for the Sandy Hook parents. And hope there's

a special place in hell for Jones. Hard to believe anyone is so vicious.

[Solly Mack]

14. I'm sure someone will come along and explain how this was actually a good thing.

[Trueblue1968]

21. I just heard on Chris Jansig ... Spelled wrong. Host on MSNBC. And i am crying again.

I am s9oooooooooooo timed of evil winning. I just wanna jump off Mt. Shasta.

[allegorical oracle]

33. To paraphrase Obama: "Don't jump -- Resist!" nt

[underpants]

26. 🤬

[City Lights]

32. He gets away with everything. Our justice system is a sick joke on the rest of us.

I am super pissed off.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

59. Trump will someday face the Almighty God on Judgment Day.

On that day Trump will be equal like the rest of us.

[City Lights]

68. When he dies, he'll just be dead. I don't believe in heaven/hell.

And I don't think he does either, despite what he says.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

102. Religion can be a touchy subject.

Reality is whatever it turns out to be, irrespective of what we believe or don't believe. The same applies to Trump.

When all is said and done, you could turn out to be right or I could turn out to be right or neither of us could turn out to be right.

If I turn out to be right, you'd be able to find solace that Trump will be held accountable eventually (but then, so will you and I and everyone else).

I won't get into a back and forth. You can reply and have the last word. I respect that you don't believe in an afterlife.

[Meowmee]

109. At least that way he can't hurt people anymore etc.

[IA8IT]

35. Bluto : What? Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is!

[Ray Bruns]

63. Bluto also thought the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor

[RussBLib]

37. It was dismissed without prejudice

.. which means it can be re-filed later, even after he leaves office. So Trump technically is not totally "off the hook."

[calimary]

84. But what can he do about it until then?

I bet that becomes a priority once he’s back in OUR White House.

[consider_this]

103. Can't take much more dangled hope - it never pans out...

this all feels incomprehensible that such an situation can be the case in our country.

[allegorical oracle]

105. Smith did enter some motion about "tolling," which puts the statute of limitations (which

would expire during the next four years) on hold until he's out of office. If the judge rules that the statute can be halted, it will probably be appealed to the SCOTUS. In my dreams, the Supremes rule against the fetid one.

[czarjak]

40. My cousin is among them.

Congrats Jeff. Most crime goes unpunished. Huh?

[JohnSJ]

52. Yeah, because the dumbass Americans acquitted him. To those who

believe they will be able to fight this, I suggest you might want to look at Italy and Germany in the 30’s and how well that went.

[Hope22]

56. And Congress let him walk...twice!

[HereForTheParty]

53. It's not right, but at least many have served some time

nm

[Tarzanrock]

57. Franco won the Civil War in Spain.

Spain still suffers from Franco's Fascism. America's Fascist days are still ahead of her. "Bury the rag deep in your face because now is the time for your tears." Bob Dylan, "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll."

William Zanzinger killed poor Hattie Carroll

With a cane that he twirled around his diamond ring finger ...

[Thrill]

58. The real Teflon Don

Untouchable Criminal

[republianmushroom]

64. Yup, thank you Merrick the Meek IMO

46 months and count.

[La Coliniere]

66. Garland will go down in history as

Joe Biden’s biggest mistake. By fucking far.

[FakeNoose]

95. Yes but most of us cheered when Biden picked him, we thought Garland was the right choice

[infullview]

67. Biden can still fix it...

Invoke the insurrection act, claim that Trump is a Russian asset (truth by any measure) and he rigged the election. Invoke Martial law and take control - throw at least three of the lying law breaking SCJ in prison, arrest Trump, etc. etc.

If the situation was reversed, that's exactly what Trump would do, but for all the wrong reasons.

[czarjak]

83. What Obama could have done in '16.

"Russia, if you're listening." was a clue. Vlad's glad

[KPN]

70. Welcome to the real world I guess ... no matter

how difficult to fathom.

There is a long and quite possibly gruesome slog ahead of us. Daunting.

[Jacson6]

73. Sadly, The USA has turned into an Oligarchy.

IMHO.

[enigmania]

75. This feels magnitudes

worse than Nixon.

[elleng]

76. TEMPORARILY!!!

[Maru Kitteh]

113. Many among us may not have the luxury of waiting to see if it is temporary. I exist as I am

in part because various anscestors who observed the political winds around them and knew when it was time to bug out. For some classes of people, temporary conditions can be life-ending and so for them, not temporary at all. Forever.

[YoshidaYui]

79. I wonder

How history will record all these events? Will it be the violence to take the Capital or Tourists peacefully protesting at the Capitol Building???

[Javaman]

82. we live in a cartoon democracy.

it appears like a democracy, people go through the motions but it's all fake and sadly comical.

[LiberalArkie]

85. As everyone always expected.

[oldmanlynn]

87. Their propaganda was much much much

much much greater than the message that the Dems were putting out. Until we can find a way to drown out their message or nullify it. This is what we’re gonna have.

[Midnight Writer]

98. That's the bad news. The good news is I won 20 bucks.

[Emile]

100. We lost our justice.

[claudette]

101. Yep

America will become a third-world country now. I'm so afraid.

[LudwigPastorius]

107. We've skipped the part where he goes to prison and writes about "My Struggle".

Now comes the part where he's in office and there is a big terrorist attack that enables him to assume emergency powers.

[anniebelle]

110. Oh how we have fallen

[Kid Berwyn]

112. Dipshit John Roberts said "Treason doesn't matter if done by Trump"

From Mother Jones:

Then, on July 1, John Roberts released a stunning opinion. He bought Trump’s argument—hook, line, and sinker. Former Presidents are now immune from criminal prosecution for anything deemed an official act. Even evidence of a crime is inadmissible if it involved official acts. The court, with Roberts in the lead, had not only removed a serious impediment to Trump’s reelection efforts—but ensured that should Trump return to the White House, he would do so with more power than any president ever before. Justice Sonia Sotomayor’s chilling dissent laid out the stakes: “When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution. Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.”

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/11/supreme-court-donald-trump-reelection/

[cer7711]

115. Disgust. Horror. Outrage.

Don't mean a damn thing, coming from the peasantry.

No man is above the law? That lofty principle is now a fucking joke.

The plutocratic oligarchs have co-opted the entire system: executive, legislative, judicial. bracnhes.

Game, set and match.

It's long past time for pitchforks and torches . . .

The questuion is: What are WE going to do about it?

[Blue_Tires]

116. We now officially have a king instead of a president

Well done, America 😔

[uncledad]

117. Bad Appointments Have Consequenses

President Biden made two crucial and in my opinion horrible picks for his cabinet. Garland turned out to be Trumps best friend, he ran a lousy investigation that was late to start and his Special Prosecutor slow walked the case and all it's appeals. Now they just drop the charges basically adding gasoline to the notion that the investigations were only done for political reasons. Blinken will go down in history as the worst secretary of state in recent memory. He completely mishandled the situation in Israel, bending the knee to the war criminal Bibi at every turn. Both of the picks were weak ineffectual leaders who's actions in the end played a huge role in diaper don's re-election.

[quakerboy]

119. they always had.

Even if trump lost this election, he still got away with j6.

There was no justice. from day one.