Bibi and his monsters are bombing the shit out of Beirut today

[malaise]

The West is complicit

That is all

[marble falls]

1. "The West is complicit" carved in history.

[Jk23]

37. Yeah I blame the Romans. NT

[Redleg]

45. I blame Biggeth Dicketh

A little reference to Life of Brian there.

[Jk23]

47. I mean seriously what have the romans ever done for us?

?si=QbPv5yu6wNYYMvz3

[Redleg]

50. Nice!

Always look on the bright side of life.

[Jit423]

102. Israel has to keep using up those weapons. They have essentially no economy other than weapons and bulldozers.

They need jobs that are provided by the war machine and we need markets for our weapons. If there were no attacks by Hamas or Hezbollah Israel would provoke one as they have done in the past. The olive groves and orange groves and date groves once belonged to Palestinian farmers whose land and water wells have been taken over by the occupiers. This accounts for the Swiss cheese map of Israel today when the Palestinian remaining territories are mapped.

[DJ Synikus Makisimus]

109. You forgot diamonds.

Cut diamonds are their biggest export to the U.S. A high percentage of those seem to originate in Russia or in Russian-controlled Africa.

[Jit423]

123. Not much to hang onto since diamonds can now be made in a lab setting.

No matter, Israel is a renegade nation and sooner or later they will have hell to pay and their innocent civilians will suffer the most.

[JI7]

2. It would help if all the various Jihadi groups stopped attacking Israel

from these locations.

[jimfields33]

3. Bingo!

[Amishman]

40. 200+ rockets launched by Hezbollah just a day and a half ago

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-lebanon-hezbollah-iran-news-11-24-2024-c91698370339e689edb6423abb3ed392

Many thousands this year, and it was happening regularly before Israel started hitting Hezbollah.

[lindysalsagal]

4. This will not stop until the west refuses to send weapons. To either side.

Killing for god. Totally insane.

[Maru Kitteh]

27. War is the ultimate consumable. The West could

stop sending arms today and war would not stop. Where there is demand, somone will endeavor to meet it.

[lindysalsagal]

43. Agreed.

[GrayJedi]

33. No simple answer

Having the West stop sending weapons is a easy answer that would likely not solve the problem. If the West stopped sending weapons then we would loose a ally that we still have some influence over. Israel will simply turn to China, Russia or North Korea who would be glad to give them all the weapons and troops they need. The West would have no influence on them and loose a possible ally in the Middle East. It would be a even worst blood bath than we could imagine.

[lindysalsagal]

44. Wish I could disagree with you, but our entire species isn't evolving fast enough to prevent our

own demise.

[EX500rider]

58. To either side? The West does not supply the terrorist side, Iran does

[lindysalsagal]

61. Of course. But Iran and the terrorists want to bring us onto their side.

They're fighting over us, so we have to exit to stop the fighting.

[EX500rider]

83. What they are trying to do is eliminate Israel & will continue trying to do regardless of US support of Israel

[nycbos]

79. The west doesn't send weapons to Hamas or Hezbollah.

But Iran does. This rouge nations funding terrorists organizations.

[Kid Berwyn]

5. Yesterday, the news said he had agreed to peace.

Today’s another day and another war.

[Beastly Boy]

10. Truce. A 60-day truce. And it takes more that one side to agree to a truce.

[Kid Berwyn]

15. I'd hope our friend, Bibi, would take the high road.

Instead, he's leading Israel on a path toward permanent war.

[Beastly Boy]

17. How would you suggest our friend Bibi should take the hight road?

What obligates him to do so in the face of continued hostilities against Israel?

And what is your definition of the high road anyway?

[Kid Berwyn]

22. Don't act like the NAZIs.

That would be a big part of my definition.

[Beastly Boy]

25. Could you be more specific?

What makes Israel's action like the nazis?

Surely it is not their right and responsibility to fight back, is it?

As an example, did the nazis ever respond to German civilians being held hostage by the Jews?

[Mountainguy]

87. Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany

is vile.

[AZLD4Candidate]

103. Doesn't stop people from doing it. Causing the descendents of those exterminated by Nazis dehumanizes them

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

53. Yeah, ikr, it's starting to get REALLY tiresome!!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

56. Maybe HAMAs/Islamic Jihad/Hizbollah should take the high road and stop

attacking Israel and then Israel would stop attacking those terrorists who hide behind civilians?

[Igel]

36. Approved in principle.

But the group that needed to approve it hadn't approved it and the Lebanese side was still saying it was possible but details.

That was reporting as of this morning--and it was the same as the reporting yesterday afternoon.

[Sundance1220]

13. Did hezbollah agree?

The days of the Israeli's doing things unilaterally are over.

[Kid Berwyn]

16. Doesn't really matter when Bibi expands war to more and more countries. I mean, enemies.

Continue making war and soon the war will make you do things you don't want to do, like seeing your own nation destroyed.

I make this point because Bibi is leading Israel toward disaster. Friends don't let friends mislead their countries, unilaterally or not.

[Sundance1220]

19. Are you completely ignorant of the fact

that hezbollah and Palestinian islamic jihad have been lobbing rockets and missiles - THOUSANDS OF THEM - into Northern Israel for years already? That Iran attacked Israel. I would be furious if the US President told them to sit back and take it after Oct 7. Enough is enough. Demand the terrorists lay down their arms, release all hostages and try leading their people rather than hiding behind them.

[Kid Berwyn]

23. I'm not ignorant of the situation.

For example, I remember when Israel attacked the USS Liberty, without mercy.



'But Sir, It's an American Ship.' 'Never Mind, Hit Her!'

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/but-sir-its-an-american-ship-never-mind-hit-her-1.5492908

Officially, a “mistake.”

Unofficially, someone wanted the USA to think someone sank* their spy ship.

*Someone must’ve been surprised the Liberty didn’t sink.

Israel was never held to account for the above. So, today, Bibi does what Bibi wants, not what Biden asks.

[Sundance1220]

24. It was investigated several times

I was under the impression only white supremacists and bigots still try and argue against Israel using using it. I guess not. And that makes it perfectly okay for a dozen different terrorist organizations to continue to try and kill Israelis, kidnap Israelis, rape Israeli's, mutilate and kidnap Israeli's because of an accident over 50 YEARS AGO. We're done here.

[soandso]

70. It was not an "accident"

It was an attempt at a false flag, to blame Egypt.

[quaint]

26. Please tell me why the Maronites in Beirut should have their lives and homes destroyed.

Thank you.

[Redleg]

46. Because they stood in the way of progress

If those people don't want to get bombed, they should move somewhere else. Ok- just pulling your chain. I am disturbed by all sides in the conflict seem to not care about non-combatant casualties. While I expect this kind of shit from extremists and terrorists, I don't expect it from nation states.

[malaise]

41. Nailed it

Rec

[haele]

117. Just for context

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This was in 2006.

Beruit is an old multicultural city.

Might as well bomb Doha, Nairobi, Jakarta, Paris - or Jerusalem.

There's Anti-Israel terrorists and plenty of wealthy anti Semitic government supporters in all those cities that happily fund or turn a blind eye to anti-Israel terrorism.

I know - But "Hezbollah".

Haele

[kentuck]

6. i'm sure he called Donald before the bombing started.

Don't you think?

[malaise]

42. Hardly matters

As Kissinger said interests not friends

[Beastly Boy]

7. Who are they bombing in Beirut? And why?

You make it sound like they are carpet bombing Beirut like the US carpet bombed Dresden. Can you provide any links, any links at all, that will confirm your statement to be true?

Any links? Please?

Oh, and who are "Bibi's monsters"? Could you be more specific? Since they are automatically presumed to be monsters, whoever they may be, do we get permission to pre-judge them in whatever they do?

[DeepWinter]

9. Hamas

Hamas has been staging leadership and supplies in Beirut since at least 2023. Doing the typical Hamas thing, using civilians as shields and not caring at all about consequences. Actually they do care. The want as much collateral damage body count as they can get. Good PR spin.

[malaise]

11. Human beings

That is all

[calilama]

29. Wild guess?

because he spews antisemitism and pro Hamas bile....if you're a Jew ,your head needs to be on a swivel...either the Trump neo Nazis come for you or the pro Pali Jew haters do...they all hate the same thing...when Jews fight back...Bibi isn't great on a lot of issues but he is DEMOCRATICALLY elected in a free country and no other nation on earth would be asked to accept constant rocket barrages and terrorist attacks as demanded of Israel

[peregrinus]

34. Pali is a racial slur

Remove it

[MarineCombatEngineer]

52. Apparently it isn't as I'm quite sure it was ruled on and allowed to stand. nt

[Redleg]

48. It's not that Bibi is defending his state, it's about how he is defending his state

We can debate the way he is going about "making Israel safe." I think that creating a humanitarian crisis in Gaza and now Lebanon will have long-term negative implications for the safety of Israel, but I could be wrong.

[AZLD4Candidate]

101. If Israel does nothing, the attacks will increase in quanity and horror as they would look weak.

If Israel fights back, the world screams Israel goes too far if someone's hair gets messed up.

Yet when Jews (yes Jews) die in terrorist attacks, it's always Israel's fault. I've been told many times that terrorism the only weapon Hamas and Hezbollah have to fight the evil Israeli.

[Redleg]

114. I didn't say they should do nothing

JFC.

[getagrip_already]

8. A final push before tsf takes orifice and gets to claim "peace"

Of course it wont be peace. It just wont be 2000 pound bombs. Artillery will still pound. Tanks will still fire. Snipers will still kill.

It will just be a dull backround level of killing.

But the media will eat it up. Peace at last. Of course no palestinians will be allowed to return or remain, but hey, its the lesser of two evils.

And the hero will be louded.

[Sundance1220]

12. Has hezbollah and pij stopped lobbing missiles?

Until they do, the Israeli's fighting back will not stop. It's all in the hands of the terrorists who hide behind women and children.

[Redleg]

49. JFC, there are more ways than one to skin a cat

I don't question Israel's right to self-defense. I do reserve the right to question the way they are conducting the war, especially when specific actions appear to violate the rules of just war. The atrocities committed by Hamas and Hezbollah don't justify any and all military actions by the Israeli state.

[AZLD4Candidate]

54. I guess we shouldn't have gone to war with Japan after Pearl Harbor.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

57. Oh, but that's different because, you know...........

ISRAEL!!!!

[Redleg]

68. I would think a veteran would have some deference for the rules of war

This veteran does. If you read my post I stated that Israel had a right to self-defense. People also have a right to state their objections to how Israel goes about doing that.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

75. First of all, thank you for your service, secondly,

where did I ever say that people don't have a right to state their objections to how Israel goes about doing that?
I've reread my post several times and, so far, I've failed to see where I ever said any such thing.
Perhaps you can enlighten me as to where you interpreted my post to say that?

[AZLD4Candidate]

86. It's called red herring and straw man logical fallacies.

[Redleg]

116. If you are referring to my post, please point out the red herring and straw man arguments

EOM

[Redleg]

115. I never said you said that, I just stated that people have a right to object

EOM

[MarineCombatEngineer]

119. You implied it. nt

[Redleg]

121. My apologies, that was not intended

Pax vobiscum.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

122. No problem.

[Redleg]

67. Another WWII reference

it does get old. I never said that Israel shouldn't defend it's own people and lands.

[AZLD4Candidate]

85. The Japanese people celebrated Pearl Harbor on the streets. Innocents died in Doolittle's Raid

Innocents died when the US started be able to bomb Japan almost daily.

Israel gets attacked. . .their apartheid state left Hamas freedom fighters no choice.
Israel fights back. . .what about innocent people?

People always suffer in wars their government fight. My wife's great grandmother was gang raped by the Japanese in 1938 after the fall of Nanjing outside Zhenjiang in Jiangsu.

But its Israel so all their actions, inactions, and mere existence is grounds for criticizing everything.

Hell, we went to war after 9/11 (albeit against the wrong people based on manipulation) when we were attack.

But Israelis die (and I don't want to use the J word because that would cause people to think I am conspiracy theorist) and the world yawns, blames Israel.
Israel fights back after saying "enough is enough" and the would condemns them.

I wonder why. . .maybe it's because a disdain for the people with that Star on their flag has been part of western civilization since the fall of the Roman empire. But now instead of saying "damn J's," we can coax into nice political language and say "damn Israel."

[Redleg]

118. I don't think the whole world blames Israel for defending itself

or for the terrorist attacks on its citizens. I for one don't blame them. I do reserve the right to criticize how they wage war against their enemies, even when their cause is just, as it is against Hamas.

[Sundance1220]

62. Well, I for one, don't feel

like I can be a judge to people who are sent to bomb shelters just about every day while so many in the world think they should just lay down and take it. It's war and war ALWAYS sucks for civilians. And I'm speaking as someone who thinks bibi is loathsome and the worst thing to ever happen to Israel.

[Redleg]

69. I can empathize and feel badly for the citizens of Israel

The problem is that there are extremists like Hamas and Hezbollah that think nothing of attacking civilian targets because that creates the most terror. I happen to believe that the state of Israel should hold itself to a higher standard than those they rightly oppose and the world expects nation-states to conform to the rules of warfare. I believe that Netanyahu and some in his ministries are also extremists and it is quite possible that they are making Israel's security situation worse rather than better.

[Sundance1220]

81. I agree mostly

I just wish I saw as much sympathy for Israeli civilians who have lived under the shadow of terrorism their entire existence. It's always Israel asked to be better, to give up their security in the hope people committed to their annihilation and will stand behind their own women and children no matter the cost, in fact, the bloodier the better, will change their minds.

[AZLD4Candidate]

99. It's because of that star on the flag and people who use that star as a symbol. The traditional whipping boy of

western civilization. Those people, me included, can do nothing right.

[alarimer]

89. They can do with no help from us

No money, no weapons.

Bibi belongs in prison.

[quaint]

14. I cry.

[tritsofme]

20. Excellent news! Thanks for sharing! I hope the West is complicit in destroying Hezbollah!

That is all.

[Blue_Tires]

21. Leave "the west" out of this, please

Especially when Muslim-Americans voted for the angry orange idiot by an overwhelming margin...

Isn't it fascinating now that the election is over how all the public protests and disrupting Dem events and camping on Pelosi's doorstep and blocking bridge traffic in blue cities and self-immolation and angry defiant anti-Biden interviews and taking over city council meetings and college campus destruction on primetime TV have completely stopped??

Isn't it equally strange how there wasn't any similar outrage from these "activists" over Syria, Darfur, or the Uighur genocide in China?

When you answer these questions, you'll know everything.

[sarisataka]

30. Fascinating indeed

one wonders why these groups are not flexing their demonstrated power by making demands of Republicans...

[Rob H.]

65. Muslim-Americans voted for Trump because of Biden administration policy

and Harris' refusal to say she would have done anything differently. They and the people who were okay with those policies need to step up and own their role in losing those voters.

[Blue_Tires]

72. If they were that short-sighted with their votes, they deserve exactly what's coming to them

😐

[Blue_Tires]

76. Oh, I'm sure Donnie's going to give them everything they want 🙄

And I'm blaming the fucking voters for backing a Nazi criminal conman, and nobody else...

[Mountainguy]

110. Or

Those trump voting Muslims can go fuck themselves with the rest of the R's.

[OneGrassRoot]

111. Ok, but are they pressuring...

Trump and the GOP with the same demands, since the GOP is in power? I haven’t seen the same activism aimed at the GOP. And since so many voted for MAGA, surely they’ll make demands as a constituency.

[JustAnotherGen]

28. Not my problem

Doing my black job and minding my own black business.

[Elessar Zappa]

31. Good.

Fuck Hezbollah.

[Basso8vb]

32. Oh well.

It's just going to get worse in January.

[Happy Hoosier]

35. Oh Geee... who could have seen THAt coming after Nov 5?

Sorry, but the constant drumbeat against Biden and the Democrats is one reason this will get worse.

[Jose Garcia]

38. Perhaps the Lebanese will get the message and stop the launching of missiles from their territory

[nycbos]

82. A novel concept.

[sarisataka]

39. Has Jill Stein made any comment

or is she sitting on the sidelines?

[Jose Garcia]

84. Yes, but we are waiting for it to be translated from Russian

[no_hypocrisy]

51. Yeah, bomb the shit of Lebanon and expect a peace treaty

after that . . . . . .

[MarineCombatEngineer]

55. Maybe if Hizbollah stopped bombing N. Israel with drones/missiles/rockets,

then Israel would stop military action against them?
Think maybe that might have something to do with Israel bombing Hizbollah targets in Lebanon?

[maxsolomon]

59. And... Peace Treaty announced.

the IDF kept the pressure up until Hezb agreed to withdraw across the Litani River.

Now, will the actually follow through?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

60. Given Hizbollah's past performances,

I wouldn't hold my breath on them actually complying with the terms of the cease fire.

[maxsolomon]

71. Worth a shot or not?

I think it's worth a shot.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

74. As do I,

and I would urge all party's involved to honor the terms of the cease fire and work towards a lasting peace.

[Rob H.]

64. The IDF will probably keep killing people, including civilians, regardless

based on their recent history. It isn't as if the US is going to cut off their funding after a year of standing by and witnessing them commit war crimes and doing nothing to stop them.

[alarimer]

90. They want the whole thing

Ethnic cleansing is what this is. Then they can sweep in and take it all over.

[AZLD4Candidate]

92. I guess the genocidal mantra "from the river to the sea" is just a political slogan

I love when Jews (yes Jews, not Israelis but Jews) are accused of ethnic cleansing and genocide.

I don't see Israel killing everyone man woman and child they meet or see. If they did, that would be genocide.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

93. Ethnic cleansing?

I think you have no idea what true ethnic cleansing is, and if you think Israel is conducting "ethnic cleansing" then they're doing an awful poor job at it.

[AZLD4Candidate]

91. Yet those benevolent freedom fighting Hamas and Hezbollah fighters can do the same and nary a word

[Rob H.]

94. The IDF, the self-proclaimed "most moral army in the world,"

has been openly committing war crimes for over a year now, even going so far as to celebrate them on YouTube and TikTok, and the US has done nothing to stop them. We won't even cut off funding and as a result of that they know the US's statements of "deep concern" mean exactly nothing. Anyone who thinks the IDF is going to abide by a ceasefire is delusional.

[AZLD4Candidate]

95. Yet every ceasefire has been broken by Hamas and Hezbollah. But don't let facts get in the way of your dogma.

Where were you after Oct 7 when the people of Gaza were celebrating rape, kidnapping, torture, and murder of non military targets at a music festival?

[Rob H.]

96. I was mourning the dead along with everyone else

but this didn’t start on October 7 last year. People need to stop pretending otherwise and stop defending and “both sides”-ing the actions of a murderous far-right-wing demagogue who has overseen the wholesale slaughter of tens of thousands of people.

[AZLD4Candidate]

98. Yes. If only Israel ceases to exist.

As I've been told by so many people, before Israel we had no enemies in the middle east. After Israel, we have no friends.

Hamas and Hezbollah want to kill every Jew and Palestinian Israeli in Israel but can't. Israel could wipe out everyone but won't.

If the terrorism stops, this stops. If people stopped harboring Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists, this would stop.

But of course, this is all Israel's fault.

If Oct 7 didn't happen, would this happen now? Don't give me history. If Oct 7th didn't happen, would Israel be at war? Yes or no!

[Rob H.]

63. Good thing we gave Israel a 30-day deadline to let aid into Gaza or face unspecified consequences

rather than push through more huge weapons shipments and as much funding as we can before Biden leaves office. Just imagine the devastation that would be happening at Netanyahu's hands right now.

[tenderfoot]

66. I'm sick of the rest of the planet being held hostage by that region.

It's never going to end ever.

[nycbos]

77. Maybe Lebanon should stop harboring a terrorist group?

Novel concept I know

[MarineCombatEngineer]

78. +100.

[yaesu]

80. The Israeli fascist can get away with anything, just like tRump.nt

[malaise]

100. You have a point

Rec

[tenderfoot]

105. That's anti-semetic!

[alarimer]

88. He is such a piece of shit.

War criminal; should be jailed for life.

[Dem4life1234]

97. Do they not have term limits for their leaders?

Please explain to me like I'm five. He's been there forever.

[tritsofme]

108. No, I can't think of a parliamentary democracy that has anything like term limits.

In Israel, the leader of the party with the most votes typically gets the first opportunity to form a government.

Except for a brief period a few years ago, that has been Netanyahu since 2009.

[Dem4life1234]

112. Thank you!

Yeah he has led for such a long time. I am sick of him.

[H2O Man]

104. Recommended.

Terrible.

[Traildogbob]

106. And Lindsay is

Having a very rare orgasm, hand full of pearls hugging his golden statue of trump.

[leftstreet]

107. DuRec

[LexVegas]

120. I support Biden's complicity in the destruction of Hamas and Hezbollah. nt