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eppur_se_muova

(37,862 posts)
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 10:00 AM Nov 26

REMINDER: Egg prices went up because of mass die-offs of laying hens infected with Avian Flu.

This was not a result of any gov't policy or action, or even inaction. It was a virus, which various gov't depts have made great efforts to track and contain, so as to *minimize* its impact.

The dullards of our country just voted in a Leader-In-Name-Only who did absolutely nothing to prevent the spread of a HUMAN-lethal contagious disease. Do you really think he's going to do anything about a virus that kills BIRDS ???

Oh, and there have already been some cases of humans getting Avian Flu. Many variants of the flu emerge from mainland China, because viruses in ducks are transmitted to pigs through contaminated pond water, which ducks, birds, and people all come into contact with. Given enough repeated exposures, sooner or later any given strain of flu will produce that "lucky" variant which is more effective at infecting pigs, whose immunochemistry is closer to humans than birds (we're both mammals, after all). From there it's a shorter hop to a human-infective variant, and so every few years we have a new flu pandemic -- sometimes mild, sometimes (inevitably) not.

The big difference next time will be that the pandemic will be met by gutted gov't agencies like the CDC and Dept. of Agriculture staffed to the gills w/GOP minions who consider gov't regulation a violation of their "freedom" (specifically, their freedom to be irresponsible morons) and will parrot the official line that the new pandemic is no worse than the usual winter flu and any argument to the contrary is all a big hoax and that vaccines are a plot to implant computer chips that take over people's brains (no one on earth has the ability to produce such chips, which would actually improve some people, anyway) and the Sec. of HHS says so, so officially we can't disagree. We face the very real possibility of seeing a pandemic just as bad as COVID-19 (I'll call it COVID-47, or the Trump Plague, regardless of the official name).

DUers and Dems are bracing for a disastrous maladministration under tsf, certain to be much worse than his first. We must keep in mind that this could very well include the loss of friends, family, and loved ones to a disease that could have been contained by a prompt, well-organized response but wasn't because, well, FREEDOM!! as well as a near-shutdown of society (again) as people who know better than their "leaders" self-quarantine because they learned the first time that THAT WORKS. Well, except for the MAGAts, who will once again be begging ICU nurses to please "give them the vaccine now" because they didn't learn a damned thing from the last time. Of course, we could be saved by a vaccine developed in other countries -- maybe less likely if RWNJs take over in Europe as well. Perhaps we'll find ourselves totally dependent on vaccines imported from ... China. Probably with a 200% tariff.

The worst part is that, although there was some speculation that wonderlands of FREEDOM!! ruled by autocrats like DeSantis might lose enough ignorant anti-maskers to (more or less) natural selection to shift the balance in the next election, in actual fact it turned out that MAGAts, being largely uncontrolled breeders, actually increased their margins since the last election. So the chance that the average voter will learn anything from successive pandemics will actually decrease as time goes on -- a seemingly unstoppable tragedy that follows from the premise of "Idiocracy", but without any humorous aspect at all.

Just something to look forward to. Not eagerly, but expect it to happen.

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REMINDER: Egg prices went up because of mass die-offs of laying hens infected with Avian Flu. (Original Post) eppur_se_muova Nov 26 OP
Kinda O. Henry in its irony no_hypocrisy Nov 26 #1
And, why are we learning about this now? Baitball Blogger Nov 26 #2
Bird flu has Rebl2 Nov 26 #7
But NO ONE connected the dots. Baitball Blogger Nov 26 #8
How do Rebl2 Nov 26 #9
It's killing cows, too BoRaGard Nov 26 #3
Important reminder, thank you ! Makes it likely it could spread to wildlife, too. nt eppur_se_muova Nov 26 #4
Paying $6 for a carton of eggs sucks here in CA! n/t Jacson6 Nov 26 #5
Blame the virus, and concentration of production in the hands of corp-owned farms. eppur_se_muova Nov 26 #6
If eggs had been the only item with steep price increases, it wouldn't have been that big of a deal Jose Garcia Nov 26 #10
Yeah. I think eggs were just emblematic of everything else going up. Self Esteem Nov 26 #14
It's not just eggs. Elessar Zappa Nov 26 #11
The real cost of egg production VGNonly Nov 26 #12
I had forgotten that. Thanks. lindysalsagal Nov 26 #13
Local news here in Phoenix ChazII Nov 26 #15

Baitball Blogger

(48,669 posts)
2. And, why are we learning about this now?
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 10:28 AM
Nov 26

Last edited Tue Nov 26, 2024, 11:20 AM - Edit history (1)

Seems like it would have been a good thing to mention during one of the Presidential debates.

Baitball Blogger

(48,669 posts)
8. But NO ONE connected the dots.
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 11:21 AM
Nov 26

No one is going to believe anything, unless they hear it said several times.

Rebl2

(15,113 posts)
9. How do
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 11:24 AM
Nov 26

they not connect the dots! Are people just that stupid 🙄. Wait, I think I answered my own question. Yes they are that dumb.

eppur_se_muova

(37,862 posts)
6. Blame the virus, and concentration of production in the hands of corp-owned farms.
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 11:15 AM
Nov 26
Large commercial “in-line” farms containing 50,000 to 6 million laying hens produce over 85% of table eggs in the United States. The average number of chicken houses in a large, integrated egg production complex is 10 and a complex may consist of 15 or more houses. Each house contains 50,000 to 350,000 laying hens.

https://www.thepoultrysite.com/articles/laying-hen-numbers-and-location


A virus landing in such a facility is like a lit match on tinder-dry scrub. Eggs from infected hens can't be sold safely, so the only practical recourse for egg farms is to kill all their laying hens as soon as the first infection is found. It takes months to raise enough hens to replace them, with a big interruption in production resulting. Perhaps things could be done differently, but until the blessed free market rules otherwise, they won't be.

GOPers want to further deregulate all industries, leading to more catastrophic production failures, not fewer.

Jose Garcia

(2,966 posts)
10. If eggs had been the only item with steep price increases, it wouldn't have been that big of a deal
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 12:48 PM
Nov 26

But it wasn't. The price of most products went up, and stayed up.

Elessar Zappa

(16,223 posts)
11. It's not just eggs.
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 12:51 PM
Nov 26

Grocery prices across the board went up a lot these past few years (milk, bananas, and potatoes seemed to stay cheap). But with Trump and his tariff and deportation policies, prices will go up even more!

ChazII

(6,326 posts)
15. Local news here in Phoenix
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 01:44 PM
Nov 26

has covered this story for awhile. There were several pieces today including one on talk radio.

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