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CatWoman

(79,933 posts)
Thu Nov 28, 2024, 07:07 PM Nov 2024

Team Trump Debates 'How Much Should We Invade Mexico?'

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-mexico-drug-cartels-military-invade-1235183177/

Within Donald Trump’s government-in-waiting, there is a fresh debate over whether and how thoroughly the president-elect should follow through on his campaign promise to attack or even invade Mexico, as part of the “war” he’s pledged to wage against powerful drug cartels.

“How much should we invade Mexico?” says a senior Trump transition member. “That is the question.”

It is a question that would have seemed batty for the GOP elite to consider before, even during Trump’s first term. But in the four years since, many within the mainstream Republican centers of power have come around to support Trump’s idea to bomb or attack Mexico.

Trump, who has routinely (and falsely) promoted himself as the candidate who would stop “endless wars,” now wants to lead a new conflict just south of our nation’s border. But at this moment, it is, in the words of one Trump adviser, “unclear how far he’ll go on this one.” This source adds: “If things don’t change, the president still believes it’s necessary to take some kind of military action against these killers.”

Another source close to Trump describes to Rolling Stone what they call a “soft invasion” of Mexico, in which American special forces — not a large theater deployment — would be sent covertly to assassinate cartel leaders. Indeed, this is a preliminary plan that Trump himself warmed to in private conversations this year.
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Team Trump Debates 'How Much Should We Invade Mexico?' (Original Post) CatWoman Nov 2024 OP
In some ways this is prescient. Almost failed states to our south are mounting. Mexico clearly but we want to "own"... dutch777 Nov 2024 #1
Are we invading Canada as well? Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #2
I want people to invade mar a largass and do Jan 6Th on it. Trueblue1968 Nov 2024 #15
On J6, no one in the entire US gov't came to help the Capital Police protect Congress. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #16
From golfer to conquistador, he can do it all, lol. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Nov 2024 #3
Did you forget the sarcasm tag? GP6971 Nov 2024 #6
If you're thinking what I think you're thinking, RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Nov 2024 #7
You should clarify. Without the sarcasam tag GP6971 Nov 2024 #8
Well, I kinda thought the lol would have been sufficient. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Nov 2024 #11
Wishful thinking on tRump's part. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2024 #4
And cartel violence is due to Americans who want drugs and Americans who profit from sending arms to cartels Attilatheblond Nov 2024 #5
The cartels have heavy infiltration into the United States. roamer65 Nov 2024 #9
We'Le HaVe PeAcE wItH TrUmP WhEn GeNoCiDe JoE iS gOne Takket Nov 2024 #10
HoW WaS I SuPpOsEd tO KnOw tHe lEoPaRd wOuLd eAt mY FaCe? sakabatou Nov 2024 #14
He's a fucking moron róisín_dubh Nov 2024 #12
lol CatWoman Nov 2024 #13
Yes. Morbius Nov 2024 #19
Charles II of Spain? róisín_dubh Nov 2024 #20
He's bullshitting. Just like he bullshitted about his 25% tariffs. Now he's saying Mexico stopped immigration due to LeftInTX Nov 2024 #17
He's not the President! EndlessWire Nov 2024 #18

dutch777

(4,186 posts)
1. In some ways this is prescient. Almost failed states to our south are mounting. Mexico clearly but we want to "own"...
Thu Nov 28, 2024, 08:09 PM
Nov 2024

..that? I certainly think we have contributed significantly to all that dysfunction but does anyone, even in their new hubris, want to play that game? Costa RIca seems stable, after that not sure you can go all the way to Tierro del Fuego and hit " functional state" in an honest assessment. Oh, silly me, eLoon can fix that to....

Irish_Dem

(67,318 posts)
2. Are we invading Canada as well?
Thu Nov 28, 2024, 08:13 PM
Nov 2024

I would like to be in charge of invading all of Quebec's chocolate croissants.

Irish_Dem

(67,318 posts)
16. On J6, no one in the entire US gov't came to help the Capital Police protect Congress.
Fri Nov 29, 2024, 01:16 AM
Nov 2024

If a mob attacked MAL, the entire US Army would be called out right away to protect trump.

11. Well, I kinda thought the lol would have been sufficient.
Fri Nov 29, 2024, 12:25 AM
Nov 2024

Anyway, I will try to be more careful.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,560 posts)
4. Wishful thinking on tRump's part.
Thu Nov 28, 2024, 09:00 PM
Nov 2024

Like that would ever happen.

This would be an ILLEGAL use of American Military. Despite its problems, Mexico is a sovereign country.

Attilatheblond

(5,578 posts)
5. And cartel violence is due to Americans who want drugs and Americans who profit from sending arms to cartels
Thu Nov 28, 2024, 09:04 PM
Nov 2024

This is just Trump pandering to and distracting the blood thirsty idiots who support him.

roamer65

(37,537 posts)
9. The cartels have heavy infiltration into the United States.
Thu Nov 28, 2024, 11:52 PM
Nov 2024

Any “war” on them in MX will not stay contained to MX.

It will come here as well.

róisín_dubh

(11,970 posts)
12. He's a fucking moron
Fri Nov 29, 2024, 12:33 AM
Nov 2024

Part of the problem Mexico faces now was caused by Fox and Calderon targeting cartel leaders, which created power vacuums.
Special forces targeting cartel leaders will do the same, on a wider scale, and ignite a war in the US itself.

Morbius

(379 posts)
19. Yes.
Fri Nov 29, 2024, 02:44 AM
Nov 2024

Stupidity is a force unto itself, but when stupidity is empowered, it becomes dangerous.

Let's think back in world history. When was the last time someone so dumb had so much power? I myself don't know.

róisín_dubh

(11,970 posts)
20. Charles II of Spain?
Fri Nov 29, 2024, 04:16 AM
Nov 2024

But to be fair to Charles, he wasn't purposefully stupid. He was the product of ridiculous inbreeding.

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
17. He's bullshitting. Just like he bullshitted about his 25% tariffs. Now he's saying Mexico stopped immigration due to
Fri Nov 29, 2024, 02:05 AM
Nov 2024

his tariff threat.

EndlessWire

(7,668 posts)
18. He's not the President!
Fri Nov 29, 2024, 02:27 AM
Nov 2024

Not until January. Yet, other heads of state have to address this jackass.

I do not think that Pisswig (love his new name) gives a flying finger about Mexicans or fentanyl. Something else is afoot. It's similar to Israel bombing those other countries, but we have a false reason to hurt Mexico.

Doesn't this brainless bobble head realize that if we start a war with Mexico, he'll stir up a hornet's nest? Mexico is friends with China.

Who told him he could shoot missiles at Mexico and get away with it? He honestly thinks we can just say it wasn't us??

Sigh. He's trying to cut in on cartel profits. Or, he needs an excuse to station our military at the border within states, for some unknown reason, which can't be good. He doesn't care about us. He's posturing for something.

At any rate, he's picking on Canada (???) and Mexico because he considers them weak, like nothing will happen to us. Like, we can take them over, no sweat. Like Hitler did, with Poland. Maybe he wants to be dictator of South America, as well.

He's nuts. Honestly, he's not even President yet, and he's planning to invade another country. This won't go well. You think Mexico is just sitting there, waiting? They're lining up their ducks. I think I'd better learn to speak Spanish.

Mexicans are going to turn out to be like Ukrainians. Tough as nails, and mad as hell.

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