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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRobert Reich: Remember: If we allow ourselves to fall into fatalism, or wallow in disappointment, or become resigned to
what is rather than what should be, we will lose the long game.
The greatest enemy of positive social change is cynicism about what can be changed.
On Bluesky at
https://bsky.app/profile/rbreich.bsky.social/post/3lc22ukc4zf2x
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JI7
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Some examples being that it was economic anxiety and not bigotry. Or that it was concern for Palestinians and not bigot
kansasobama
(1,551 posts)That includes Dem voters and unions.
Elessar Zappa
(16,082 posts)Make no mistake that there were people who voted for Trump due to the sole reason of grocery prices and rent. As were there people who wouldnt vote for a woman or a black person.
ShazzieB
(18,925 posts)Trying to boil very complex matters down into black and white oversimplifications rarely leads to sound results.
kansasobama
(1,551 posts)We will be shut out on the MSM side otherwise
JustAnotherGen
(33,833 posts)Out Morning Joe and backfill it with straight news.
BonnieJW
(2,605 posts)Katie Phang
Stefanie Rule
Ali Velshi
JustAnotherGen
(33,833 posts)Her arrogance to Eddie Glaude who told the truth on election night?
No.
I'd rather see Steele, Sanders, and Menendez in that spot.
Silver Gaia
(4,915 posts)Cha
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easy but I'm Determined.
TY & Robert Reich.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,074 posts)We werent even playing.
ananda
(30,939 posts)We were going to lose it anyway, due to climate change,
but now it will be sooner rather than later.
JustAnotherGen
(33,833 posts)If Schumer and Jeffries would knock it off with the conciliatory tone.
I'm perfectly fine with every single Democrat voting no on every single thing for the next two years.
Let the Magats destroy it on their own.
nini
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Until people tune that out, see it for what it is, and not take the bait, well never get focused.
Martin68
(24,735 posts)moniss
(6,151 posts)all of what you said isn't going to help the mom, dad etc. that in the very near future is going to have a gun in their face and be rapidly deported. What you say is for a general outlook for moving forward. A great many people are f**ked between Inauguration Day and whenever in the future we can regain control. If we can regain it. It is a complete uncertainty how much they will change the legal/election process scenario in order to prevent the Democratic Party from regaining control. That is not cynical it is being real.
It is being real to recognize that the GQP has for decades sought to and has passed legislation and changes to election/registration process specifically targeted at suppressing Democratic registrations, manner of voting, polling locations and ballots as cast. They have show it to very successful in some areas. It is likely they will keep doing it in new ways also.
Robert we understand what you're saying and appreciate it but "change" is a process. Crisis is where we are now and while I agree completely that resignation to "fate" is not going to bring change the ones who are going to be some of the first immediately suffering major harm will need as much immediate concern as we can muster. We need to save and protect them as much as we can while we work for the change that will accept them and not persecute them.
Regarding the immediate need for action and for future change I challenge those of means and reputation all over the country and the world to also not forget that nothing prevents them from laying it on the line and taking part in civil disobedience and resistance while also cheering for change. We need everyone into the breach. Am I being cynical when I say I know that most will not go and put themselves into the civil actions that work to obstruct and deny the authoritarians? No because it is being a realist to acknowledge that fact, openly discuss it and plan accordingly. I know some, as you have Robert, will take part in protests.
The bottom line is that while decrying "wallowing in disapopointment" and cheering on "positive social change" there is a war going on and fighting it to greatest effect requires being real about where we really and what is going to happen. We need to be sure that we don't mistake that necessary realism for "resignation" or "cynism".
In the end will we get a large number of high profile people from around the world and specifically in the US to take the swing of the baton and arrest by putting themselves in actual live civil disobedience actions? Are the ones who don't not also to be recognized as being of use in a resistance? Of course they can be of use in other ways. Robert we also need to recognize that the open expressions of cynicism, disappointment and even resignation are all things that we can use in the presentation and conduct of the resistance. For example we have to not only highlight the evil acts of the authoritarians but also the negative effects of indifference etc. So those who "go along" or stand idly by are in fact necessary to use in showing what not fighting back looks like. For example the way to present a campaign against bigotry is to show not only the bigoted act but to also include in the picture the ones who are indifferent. In that way one hopes to portray the negative appearance that gives to such a person and by doing so a campaigner for change hopes to have people embrace being better than that. You show people the disease and give them avenues to be better. So we realize that we need to show the progression and effects of the disease and tie that to the very real portrayal of those who "accept" the disease and don't go for treatment so that people viewing the entire matter can be spurred to not be bystanders while something needs to be done. As much as we don't like them they are necessary as proof of the negative so it can be portrayed and not just be claimed as hypothetical.
Robert it's great to see you on Bluesky but I encourage you to leave X immediately and as the saying goes "be the change".
Mike 03
(17,379 posts)he'd be a good person to reshape the DNC, if they decide to make changes going forward. Reich, Rev William Barber, Matthew Desmond. I'm agnostic but these guys, plus Thom Hartmann and Chris Murphy, are all saying we need to directly take fire at neoliberalism even if it means making enemies of some corporate donors.