About this pardon for Hunter

[soandso]

I hadn't actually read it but was good with what I heard. Pardoned for the gun thing and the IRS - both fine by me. Victimless crimes. But, then I read the pardon and now I'm wondering, uh, WTF? This is a blanket pardon for any and all crimes, known or unknown for an eleven year period. How can someone be pardoned for something they've not been charged with and what other crimes are we talking about here? Is this even constitutional? When Hunter made a plea deal, his lawyers tried exactly this - a blanket pardon and it didn't fly with the court.

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[woodsprite]

1. If he had been specific, the GOP would try for

Anything else they could get to continue to drag Hunter through the mud and hurt Joe. They wouldn’t be satisfied until they succeeded in putting Hunter behind bars or breaking his sobriety.

[BoRaGard]

6. Bingo!

[jmowreader]

21. OR driving him to suicide

[DemMedic]

2. Who knows what the Magats would try and dig up....

This is a good call because (IMHO) it closes that line of attack against the Bidens off.

[Haggard Celine]

3. I don't blame Joe.

If I had a son, I would do the same thing. Prison will suck the life out of a person. Any decent dad would do the same thing.

[soandso]

5. I agree on that

Most parents would do anything to protect their child. However, that doesn't address my questions.

[claudette]

12. Agree

After that nauseating welcoming visit to the WH It appears Joe does have bells!!

[Mike 03]

4. Very happy that President Biden did this

However, for the next week we'll have to listen to pundits draw a moral equivalence between what Biden did for his own son, and the reckless and uninhibited use of pay-for-play pardons by Trump over the years, in addition to the J6 pardons. Just prepare yourselves to be enraged with dismay.

[Think. Again.]

9. Or don't listen.

[JustAnotherGen]

7. Good!

[Think. Again.]

8. rightwingers are not decent people, they did not just prosecute Hunter...

....for crimes he committed, they persecuted Hunter as a political bludgeon against his father and the Democratic party.

rightwingers do not have any honor, and it is rightfully expected they would continue to abuse the legal system to continue to persecute Hunter.

Biden should be praised for stopping at least this one act of ongoing political persecution.

[duncang]

10. As others have said

If he hadn’t done that I’m sure Comer & the upcoming administration would’ve kept going after Hunter for anything they could find or make up. I don’t think he would have pardoned Hunter if VP Harris won. Seeing what was coming up from the picks tfg has chosen I’m sure Hunter won’t be the only Biden they go after. I also fully expect his retribution tour will be going after everyone on his list. Which means anyone who spoke against him or even upset him but not giving him total fealty.

[soandso]

13. From what I've read

Hunter was not in danger of going to prison and potential felony charges were reduced to misdemeanors. Hunter also admitted he was guilty and his buddy paid off his taxes and penalties. Admitting guilt often avoids jail time. Wesley Snipes would not admit guilt and was sent to prison for back taxes.

[duncang]

15. There was already a plea deal

But after right wing complaints the deal was quashed. He still faced the possibility of up to 42 years in prison before the pardon.

[no_hypocrisy]

11. Pretty sure that Gerald Ford gave a blanket pardon for Richard Nixon.

Just to be comprehensive.

And remember that Nixon wasn't tried and convicted when he got that pardon.

[soandso]

14. Didn't that pertain to Watergate, though?

Meaning is Nixon had killed someone or something surely it wasn't covering that. Not saying he did just saying I think the pardon was specifically about Watergate.

[tritsofme]

17. No, it was very similar in structure to this pardon.

And covered all crimes that may have been committed while Nixon was president.

[Prairie Gates]

22. Nixon's pardon was a blanket pardon for a time period, and it preceded Watergate

The pardon was for any federal crimes from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

It has never been challenged as a violation of the Constitution.

And surely, this Supreme Court, who seem for all the world to be unitary executive radicals, would not dare challenge the sacrosanct principle of the absolute authority of the executive to pardon, right? Right?

[Paladin]

16. If you don't like the pardon, go sit in the corner with trump.

Because trump didn't like it, either...

[soandso]

24. I support the pardon

for those things he did (taxes, gun charge). As I already said, they were victimless crimes. I can't really comment on crimes I don't know about.

[DeepWinter]

18. On Principal

I don't like any blanket pardon. Not a good look.

[C0RI0LANUS]

19. Original Pres Ford Pardon Declaration for Richard Nixon linked at bottom

President Gerald R. Ford covered strictly RMN's two-terms from 20 Jan 1969 to 8 Aug 1974 for crimes he committed or may have committed against the United States as POTUS.

The Hunter Biden pardon pales in comparison.



Footnote for historians:

Nixon would not have been safe from federal prosecution had LBJ disclosed Nixon's secret dealings with Saigon in 1968 to scotch the Paris Peace talks. LBJ heard the FBI wiretaps himself.

Consummate insider Gerald R. Ford, who sat on the Warren Commission and was a 32 degree Freemason, must have known about Nixon's subterfuge because LBJ phoned senior GOP Senator Everett Dirksen who called it "treason." Ford as POTUS nevertheless restricted the timeframe of the pardon, potentially exposing Nixon to legal jeopardy if the treason accusation ever became public.


Sources:

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/sites/default/files/pdf_documents/library/exhibits/pardon/005601018-005.pdf

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21768668

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/nixon-prolonged-vietnam-war-for-political-gainand-johnson-knew-about-it-newly-unclassified-tapes-suggest-3595441/

[The Unmitigated Gall]

20. Stops the pukes

From just pulling something out of their ass to hit him with.
Personally, knowing what I know about how ruthless and wretched these fuckers are, Hunter wouldn’t have survived his term.

[republianmushroom]

23. Blanket pardon ends all the convicted felons revenge toward Joe thru Hunter.

I like it.