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CatWoman

(79,685 posts)
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 05:46 AM Monday

Trump calls Hunter Biden pardon 'an abuse and miscarriage of Justice'

President-elect Trump called President Biden’s pardon of his son, Hunter Biden, “an abuse and miscarriage of justice” Sunday.

“Does the Pardon given by Joe to Hunter include the J-6 Hostages, who have now been imprisoned for years? Such an abuse and miscarriage of Justice!” the president-elect said in a post on Truth Social, seemingly referring to rioters who have been accused of storming the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6, 2021 attack.

Biden announced earlier Sunday that he signed his son’s pardon and argued in a statement that the charges that his son had faced came about due to political reasons.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5016946-trump-hunter-biden-pardon-abuse-miscarriage-of-justice/

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Trump calls Hunter Biden pardon 'an abuse and miscarriage of Justice' (Original Post) CatWoman Monday OP
Not Andy Borowitz or The Onion, right? no_hypocrisy Monday #1
That's exactly what I was going to say!! KarenS Monday #8
LOL claudette Monday #2
"an abuse and miscarriage of justice" DemMedic Monday #3
And this did not need the special new SC granted immunity, any past President could do this karynnj Monday #34
"Bwaaa ha ha ha haa!" - People of Planet Earth BoRaGard Monday #4
If anyone would know how to abuse justice, it would be Trump. Emile Monday #5
Kind of ironic soandso Monday #6
Lol Dorian Gray Monday #7
You wonder what note Joe Biden will leave in the Oval Office desk for Trumpf on 20 Jan 2025. C0RI0LANUS Monday #9
Translation: Mike Niendorff Monday #10
f*** trump and his domestic terrorists rampartd Monday #11
Fuck you, Trump! sop Monday #12
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! GoCubsGo Monday #13
The Magic R allows hypocrites to have no shame. Emile Monday #14
Fuck you hypocrite Trump!! aeromanKC Monday #15
I laughed my ass off when I heard this! spanone Monday #16
Sheesh - you'd think Hunter walloped Capitol Police with flagpoles. Vinca Monday #17
Chutzpah? kentuck Monday #18
Here you go: Kingofalldems Monday #19
Like the time you pardoned Paul Manafort? Kid Berwyn Monday #20
Comer, whose committee failed to prove anything, will likely karynnj Monday #33
Man, look at yourself in the mirror, YOU are "an abuse and miscarriage of Justice". Fla Dem Monday #21
Reminder: ALL of Steve Bannon's co-conspirators in the Build the Wall fraud scheme Prairie Gates Monday #22
LOL! Of course he does. It's a laughable response. Oopsie Daisy Monday #23
Well he has an opportunity when President Takket Monday #24
Screw you, convicted felon, not serving time for your offenses is 'an abuse and miscarriage of Justice'. republianmushroom Monday #25
Says the felon. milestogo Monday #26
Convicted felon says what ? underpants Monday #27
lol ismnotwasm Monday #28
Snore lame54 Monday #29
But HIS judge/protector Aileen Cannon letting Trump get away with theft, possible sale, of classified documents is fine? Attilatheblond Monday #30
Among other outrageous pardons, he pardoned Bannon after he was karynnj Monday #31
Convicted felon and adjudicated rapist gives lecture on . . . peggysue2 Monday #32
Is Drumpf auditioning for The Onion now? - oh, forgot, he's got no irony, satire, humor, talent... UTUSN Monday #35
Maddowblog-The problem with Trump's reaction to the Hunter Biden pardon LetMyPeopleVote Monday #36
And "The Hill" proves what a garbage rag it is. Wiz Imp Monday #37
No, SF. Jan 6 was your doing, not Biden's so your thugs will not get a pardon from Biden. Deuxcents Monday #38
Miscarriage of justice to have a convicted felon in the White House! GoreWon2000 Monday #39
I hate Rumps guts. I want him and Vance to mysteripusly disapear Tomorrow!!!!! Trueblue1968 Monday #40
Me taste some GOP tears. Johonny Monday #41
Says the person who would pardon the J6 insurrectionists sakabatou Monday #42

DemMedic

(272 posts)
3. "an abuse and miscarriage of justice"
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 05:54 AM
Monday

No such thing since President Biden has full immunity.

Meanwhile donny embodies the term miscarriage of justice.

karynnj

(59,969 posts)
34. And this did not need the special new SC granted immunity, any past President could do this
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 12:59 PM
Monday

Of the various controversial Presidential pardons, this would not reach anywhere near the most unjustified. Ignoring that there wouldn't even have been charged not plea bargained with any other last name, there are valid reasons to pardon.

He made financial restitution. He admitted to addiction and has worked hard to be clean for the last 5 years with the love and help of his family. He actually has been punished by having everything put out in public and used to harm the father he loves. He is in no way threat to others, nor was he ever accused of being one. He is still a vulnerable person and trials and prison could seriously hurt him.

Joe Biden is a good person. Not pardoning Hunter would sacrifice his son unfairly just to claim he has higher values. He does not need to prove that because he has lived those values his whole career.

BoRaGard

(2,925 posts)
4. "Bwaaa ha ha ha haa!" - People of Planet Earth
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 05:56 AM
Monday

Nobody spews shit like the draft-dodging, casino-hustling republicon felon/rapist.

soandso

(1,333 posts)
6. Kind of ironic
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 06:07 AM
Monday

since Trump was asked if Biden didn't pardon Hunter if he would do it and he was positive saying he would definitely consider it doing it. Now it's a miscarriage of justice?

Dorian Gray

(13,726 posts)
7. Lol
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 06:12 AM
Monday

He's so predictable.

I think Democrats need to have a new tactic. Kiss his ass and get everything they want.

Mike Niendorff

(3,558 posts)
10. Translation:
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 06:33 AM
Monday

"Yes, I do fully intend to turn the US government into my personal vendetta and grievance machine. How dare you take your son out of my sights! Now I have to find another victim."

(* and, of course, he will)


MDN

rampartd

(489 posts)
11. f*** trump and his domestic terrorists
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 07:26 AM
Monday

putting hunter in jail would be a green light to torture and have him "suicide" epstein style.

i really can not imagine any depth to which these people will not sink

GoCubsGo

(33,076 posts)
13. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 07:30 AM
Monday

Every accusation is a confession with this motherfucker, and this is his biggest confession of all.

Kid Berwyn

(18,094 posts)
20. Like the time you pardoned Paul Manafort?
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 08:26 AM
Monday

Roger Stone?

Charles Kushner?

OTOH: Trump pardons were more to obstruct Justice.

karynnj

(59,969 posts)
33. Comer, whose committee failed to prove anything, will likely
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 12:45 PM
Monday

try to argue that this is obstruction of efforts to prove the myth of the Biden crime family. Ignoring that after decades in the Senate he was among the poorest.

Prairie Gates

(3,211 posts)
22. Reminder: ALL of Steve Bannon's co-conspirators in the Build the Wall fraud scheme
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 10:57 AM
Monday

went to federal prison. His main co-conspirator, Timothy Shea, is still in prison, serving a 5 year sentence.

Takket

(22,583 posts)
24. Well he has an opportunity when President
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 11:01 AM
Monday

To set a new and better example for the country of a president that does not use the pardon power for the benefit to of their own friends and family.

I look forward to his not pardoning the Jan 6th terrorists because he wants to set an example of why he is good and Biden is bad.

Attilatheblond

(4,333 posts)
30. But HIS judge/protector Aileen Cannon letting Trump get away with theft, possible sale, of classified documents is fine?
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 12:39 PM
Monday

Trump tunnel vision & propaganda again. Gads, I do not know how I will get thru the next few years. My BS gauge is already sprung.

karynnj

(59,969 posts)
31. Among other outrageous pardons, he pardoned Bannon after he was
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 12:41 PM
Monday

Charged with defrauding people sending money to " build the wall" . Ironic that he pardoned someone defrauding the MAGA base, yet MAGA did not care!

peggysue2

(11,496 posts)
32. Convicted felon and adjudicated rapist gives lecture on . . .
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 12:45 PM
Monday

The abuse and miscarriage of justice, then has the gall to equate the case against Hunter Biden to a bunch of violent insurrectionists that he incited.

You can't make this stuff up.

It's going to be a long, long four years!

LetMyPeopleVote

(154,884 posts)
36. Maddowblog-The problem with Trump's reaction to the Hunter Biden pardon
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 01:29 PM
Monday

There's a legitimate controversy surrounding Joe Biden's pardon for Hunter Biden, but given his scandalous record, Donald Trump ought to sit this one out.



The problem with Trump’s reaction to the Hunter Biden pardon - MSNBC: Biden has done what any other father would do.. it’s his son,Trump on the other hand stated he would pardon the criminals that supported his insurrection efforts. Huge difference.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/problem-trumps-reaction-hunter-biden-pardon-rcna182413

President Joe Biden’s son Hunter was facing the possibility of a prison sentence on federal gun charges and federal tax evasion charges. Thanks to a presidential pardon, the defendant no longer has anything to worry about. My MSNBC colleague Hayley Miller explained:

President Joe Biden on Sunday issued a “full and unconditional” pardon for his son Hunter Biden, who has been dogged by Republican attacks for years. ... The pardon is expected to cover both his gun charges and his tax charges, reported NBC News, the first outlet to report on the decision. It covers any offenses the 54-year-old “has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 1, 2014 through December 1, 2024.


There’s no shortage of angles to a story like this one, but broadly speaking, there are two sides to the story. On the one hand, there’s the outgoing president, who argued that his adult son wouldn’t even have been prosecuted if his last name weren’t Biden. The pardon, by this reasoning, is about advancing the cause of justice and righting a prosecutorial wrong......

The one person, however, who should sit this one out, is Donald Trump, who apparently couldn’t help himself.

Shortly after the White House announced the pardon for the incumbent president’s son, the Republican president-elect published an item to his social media platform that read, “Does the Pardon given by Joe to Hunter include the J-6 Hostages, who have now been imprisoned for years? Such an abuse and miscarriage of Justice!”

First, Jan. 6 criminals are not “hostages.”

Second, if we’re going to talk about pardons, abuses and miscarriages of justice, Trump might not like where the conversation ends up.

Indeed, by any fair measure, Trump’s record on pardons is arguably the worst in American history. During his first term, he effectively wielded his pardon power as a corrupt weapon, rewarding loyalists, completing cover-ups, undermining federal law enforcement, and doling out perverse favors to the politically connected.

Trump’s list of scandalous pardon abuses is so long, it could be a lengthy book. The names should be familiar: Paul Manafort. Michael Flynn. Steve Bannon. Roger Stone. Seven different Republican members of Congress who were locked up for corruption crimes.

Trump saw presidential pardons as get-out-of-jail-free cards for his friends and associates, engaging in the kind of brazen corruption that would’ve defined his term were it not eclipsed by other breathtaking scandals.

Wiz Imp

(2,031 posts)
37. And "The Hill" proves what a garbage rag it is.
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 01:53 PM
Monday

"seemingly referring to rioters who have been accused of storming the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6, 2021 attack."

Hey. Morons at the Hill: rioters weren't just accused of storming the US Capitol - THEY WERE CONVICTED!!

Trueblue1968

(18,197 posts)
40. I hate Rumps guts. I want him and Vance to mysteripusly disapear Tomorrow!!!!!
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 02:51 PM
Monday

Disappear like jimmy hoffa. Tomorrow !!!!

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