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edhopper

(35,046 posts)
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 01:33 PM Dec 2

More outrage at Biden pardoning his son from that bullshit prosecution

Than Trump pardoning the father of his son-in law and now making him Ambassador to France.

No double standard at all.

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More outrage at Biden pardoning his son from that bullshit prosecution (Original Post) edhopper Dec 2 OP
And a bunch of Democrats are Bettie Dec 2 #1
It's quite disgusting Dem4life1234 Dec 2 #5
What happened to Polis? mvd Dec 2 #17
Polis is objecting? niyad Dec 2 #22
Yes mvd Dec 2 #23
JFC, polis, what in the HELL is the matter with you??? niyad Dec 2 #24
Those Dems need to sit down and STFU NotHardly Dec 2 #21
Shit is one reason why we lost wings of government Dem4life1234 Dec 2 #31
Performative outrage is the fascist stock-in-trade... The Unmitigated Gall Dec 2 #2
Dems are complaining 😭 to MustLoveBeagles Dec 2 #6
And the prosection of Charles Kushner was no political witch hunt. SunSeeker Dec 2 #3
On June 30, 2004, Kushner was fined $508,900 by the Federal Election Commission for contributing to Democratic political Celerity Dec 2 #10
More outrage over Biden's pardon than over Trump's 34 felony convictions. GoCubsGo Dec 2 #4
No kidding. It's about a 1 out of 10 in the scale of outrageousness. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 2 #13
Biden isn't stupid MustLoveBeagles Dec 2 #7
He knows his son is in real danger, with this incoming crew, I believe. nt The Unmitigated Gall Dec 2 #9
Exactly MustLoveBeagles Dec 2 #32
Trump pardoned him? Polybius Dec 2 #8
No double standard at all Clouds Passing Dec 2 #11
My attitude towards Biden pardoning his son kerry-is-my-prez Dec 2 #12
Wake me when evidence emerges that Hunter paid Biden for the pardon. Midnight Writer Dec 2 #14
Pardoning Hunter was a matter of life and death BOSSHOG Dec 2 #15
I have to wonder why we're even talking about it? CaptainTruth Dec 2 #16
You're exactly right mvd Dec 2 #19
The media will make it into a feeding frenzy like the jackals they are. hadEnuf Dec 2 #18
They should all have kneepads for how much time they're spending down there. nt The Unmitigated Gall Dec 2 #33
Fuck their feelings Demobrat Dec 2 #20
So he imitated the Republicans this one time DFW Dec 2 #25
Some people require outrage to feel alive dlk Dec 2 #26
Relying on right wing media to gaslight the base SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2 #27
You mean persecution. RandySF Dec 2 #28
Rodger Stone failed to pay his taxes and was convicted and still Historic NY Dec 2 #29
Claire McCaskill just said... appmanga Dec 2 #30
MAGAts don't need any justification. Demobrat Dec 2 #34

Bettie

(17,389 posts)
1. And a bunch of Democrats are
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 01:34 PM
Dec 2

angry about Hunter but were fine with the kushner pardon.


We really do have that circular firing squad thing down pat.

mvd

(65,531 posts)
17. What happened to Polis?
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 03:41 PM
Dec 2

The Colorado governor has done what you are saying. First RFK Jr. praise from him and now this.

NotHardly

(1,370 posts)
21. Those Dems need to sit down and STFU
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 03:59 PM
Dec 2
... their called Toadies, and that is all they are worth.

Dem4life1234

(1,998 posts)
31. Shit is one reason why we lost wings of government
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 05:06 PM
Dec 2

They don't know how to stand together in lockstep.

They should be concerned with the thief.

See, they have all that mouth for the POTUS and other Dems, but docile as a mouse when it comes to dealing with these Rethuglican sociopaths in government.

The Unmitigated Gall

(4,619 posts)
2. Performative outrage is the fascist stock-in-trade...
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 01:40 PM
Dec 2

By pukes who know damn well their fearless scumbag leader is a criminal.
Backed by a whore media which places this story over the mind-bending crisis of a rinky-dink zealot like Kash Patel nominated to head the nation's law enforcement.

SunSeeker

(54,063 posts)
3. And the prosection of Charles Kushner was no political witch hunt.
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 01:42 PM
Dec 2

It had nothing to do with politics. Charles Kushner committed serious, vicious crimes, crimes for which people regularly go to jail, unlike what Hunter was prosecuted for.

Celerity

(46,866 posts)
10. On June 30, 2004, Kushner was fined $508,900 by the Federal Election Commission for contributing to Democratic political
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 03:17 PM
Dec 2
campaigns in the names of his partnerships when he lacked authorization to do so. In 2005, following an investigation by the United States Attorney for the District of New Jersey, US Attorney Chris Christie negotiated a plea agreement with him, under which Kushner pleaded guilty to 18 counts of illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering. The witness tampering charge arose from Kushner's retaliation against William Schulder, his sister Esther's husband, who was cooperating with federal investigators against Kushner. Kushner hired a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law, arranged to record a sexual encounter between the two, and had the tape sent to his sister.

Kushner was sentenced to two years in prison. He served 14 months at Federal Prison Camp, Montgomery in Alabama before being sent to a halfway house in Newark, New Jersey, to complete his sentence. He was released from prison on August 25, 2006.

As a convicted felon, Charles Kushner was also disbarred and prohibited from practicing law in New Jersey, New York, and Pennsylvania. Republican Chris Christie, who chaired Trump’s first transition team, said Kushner committed "one of the most loathsome, disgusting crimes" he prosecuted. In her book Too Much and Never Enough, President Trump's niece Mary L. Trump wrote that Charles Kushner had given a speech in which he claimed that Ivanka Trump had only made herself worthy of inclusion in his family by committing to convert to Judaism, which Mary Trump found "a bit rich" given Kushner's past as a convicted felon.

On December 23, 2020, President Trump issued a full and unconditional pardon to Kushner, his daughter's father-in-law, citing his record of "reform" and "charity". The Star-Ledger called it an empty pardon that carried "no moral weight."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner#Criminal_conviction


https://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/04/nyregion/briefings-politics-fec-fines-developer.html


GoCubsGo

(33,164 posts)
4. More outrage over Biden's pardon than over Trump's 34 felony convictions.
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 01:59 PM
Dec 2

Or, being an adjudicated rapist. Never mind the hypocrisy over the Kushner pardon. This is infinitely more egregious.

Midnight Writer

(23,131 posts)
14. Wake me when evidence emerges that Hunter paid Biden for the pardon.
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 03:38 PM
Dec 2

President Trump and his gang charged a pretty penny for some of those pardons, but that was swept under the rug along with the rest of his crimes.

BOSSHOG

(40,275 posts)
15. Pardoning Hunter was a matter of life and death
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 03:39 PM
Dec 2

Because that’s what today’s Republican Party is all about. Harming your perceived enemies. Ergo

Outrage because President Biden pardoned his son to save his life.

I’m outraged at the outrage.

CaptainTruth

(7,271 posts)
16. I have to wonder why we're even talking about it?
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 03:40 PM
Dec 2

I mean, who gives a flying F what they think?

Their reaction was 100% predictable & expected, & yes, once again they've proven themselves to be as thoroughly idiotic & hypocritical as we knew they were.

No surprise, nothing new, not news, I'm not wasting my time on their BS.

Am I the only one who feels this way?


mvd

(65,531 posts)
19. You're exactly right
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 03:46 PM
Dec 2

Pardons have always been used at the President’s discretion, and Repukes would pardon anyone on their side.

hadEnuf

(2,795 posts)
18. The media will make it into a feeding frenzy like the jackals they are.
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 03:43 PM
Dec 2

Maybe some think they will curry favor with Der Orange Fuhrer when he gets in so they can be the new TASS.

With little exception, our once mighty press has completely failed this nation, bought off lock, stock and barrel by corporate greed.

Demobrat

(9,949 posts)
20. Fuck their feelings
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 03:49 PM
Dec 2

and their performative outrage. What can they do about it? Nothing. What can the orange anus do about it? Nothing.
He would have had Hunter thrown in solitary and then murdered in cold blood. We know it. They know it. Everybody knows it. Fuck them.

dlk

(12,468 posts)
26. Some people require outrage to feel alive
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 04:32 PM
Dec 2

If it’s not an outright pathology, it’s very close.

No doubt Republicans would have loved to see President Biden throw his son to the wolves. It was never going to happen.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,739 posts)
27. Relying on right wing media to gaslight the base
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 04:33 PM
Dec 2

They'll never know reality until their bubble bursts.

appmanga

(967 posts)
30. Claire McCaskill just said...
Mon Dec 2, 2024, 05:01 PM
Dec 2

...she hates that Biden did it because the both sides people will use the hypocrisy as a justification. I wrote this yesterday in another forum:

If his name wasn't "Biden" and he wasn't related to Joe, he would have never been brought to trial. The same applies to his potential sentence. Lastly, considering the biggest fucking archcriminal in American history is taking office, as opposed to going to prison, and the Supreme Court has put him above the law, and there is proof he used the Bureau of Prisons against Michael Cohen, fucking yes, I'd pardon my son.

If you're a Democrat and you question this, you haven't come to understand the reality we're about to live in. And, unfortunately, some people's lives have led them to be unable to appreciate just how ugly, petty, and corrupt those in power can be.


Joe Biden had no business allowing the incoming corrupt administration, which has already expressed as plainly as can be done how they will go after their political enemies, to be in charge of his son. Even if you're in a federal correction camp, and I guarantee you a dollar to a doughnut he wasn't going to be sent to one of those, bad and dangerous things can happen to you. Hunter Biden in prison with any January 6 insurrectionist nut is a risk, and that's just one person out of many who may feel they have a reason to go after him. Fuck the naysayers and the pearl clutchers. Joe Biden, who's already lost two children, shouldn't let his son be put in harm's way to try to prove a point about integrity when we have what we have coming into the White House.
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