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Ocelot II

(121,479 posts)
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 12:22 AM Dec 3

"No one is above the law!" That's what the GOP (and some Democrats) are bellowing,

in high dudgeon and paroxysms of pearl-clutching over Biden's pardoning of Hunter. Leaving aside the weapons-grade hypocrisy of any GOPer daring to say a goddamn word about how nobody should be above the law, the sad fact is that the statement is, and always has been, false. It's limply aspirational and only that. It would be nice if it were true, but for all the chest-beating and virtue-signaling, it's a load of bullpucky. The law is said to treat everyone the same, and the way the laws are written - neutrally on their face - we can at least to pretend to believe that to be so. Anatole France once said, “The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.” But the wealthy and well-connected and politically favored are almost always above the law; we just act like they aren't, pointing to the occasional rich person who does suffer some consequences - Bernie Madoff, for example.

I was in law school in the late '70s/early '80s, and in those days, when I only knew legal theory and case law, I really believed in The Law as a thing you could believe in; that most of the time it really was applied fairly and justice was done. At that time, though, there was also a school of thought called Critical Legal Studies (Critical Race Theory developed out of this), which explained in almost incomprehensibly recondite academic language that the law has inherent social biases that support the interests of those who create the law; favoring the historically privileged and disadvantaging the historically underprivileged. The law thus becomes an instrument for oppression in order for the wealthy and powerful to maintain their place at the top of the social hierarchy. I thought this was Marxist-adjacent nonsense. After actually practicing law for awhile, though, I wasn't so sure. A lawyer I worked with, who was also my mentor and one of the most excellent humans I have ever known, and who had a cynical streak, used to ask rhetorically, "How much justice can you afford?" After about 20 years I burned out on the whole business of law (not in small part because I started to think the CLS scholars might be right) and went into another line of work, though I kept up with the interesting, scholarly part of it.

So anyhow, when I hear politicians and others getting up on their high horses to insist no one is above the law, I cringe a little. I don't know how they can sincerely believe it, all evidence being to the contrary. Now in Trump we see CLS made flesh, the richest and the most powerful wiping their asses with the Constitution and making a mockery of the law and proving the absurdity of the notion that nobody is above it. And those same iniquitous shitters on the law (and the poltroons in the media who need something to be outraged about) have the gall to suggest that Biden's pardoning Hunter is of the same rule-of-law-pissing-on magnitude as Trump stealing classified documents, sexually assaulting women and inciting an insurrection. Hunter, they say, is an example of the inequity of the law - a president's son being pardoned for a crime only because he's the president's son. Unfair! they howl. Hunter was spared from the consequences of his misdeeds because his father had the power to spare him, they whine. Yet the only reason Hunter was in that jam in the first place was because his father was the president! A guy named Hunter Dingleberry who did what Hunter Biden did would have been given the benefit of the plea deal that fell apart - if he'd even been prosecuted in the first place. So yes, the law did not treat Hunter Biden the same as it would have treated anyone else because he was the president's son - it treated him worse; and it treated him worse because powerful people wanted him treated worse, and bent the law to be sure that happened. The law is not neutral and justice is not blind. Swear to God, if I hear one more pompous dickhead of a politician, whether a GOPer or a Democrat, or one more censorious douchebag of a media pontificator, insist that NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW I will throw a kitchen implement, maybe a toaster or a teakettle, through my TV screen. Do not tell me that ever again. It's bullshit.

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"No one is above the law!" That's what the GOP (and some Democrats) are bellowing, (Original Post) Ocelot II Dec 3 OP
Except that a piece of shit felon fraud rapist is going to Klarkashton Dec 3 #1
How much farther above the law can anyone possibly get than that? Ocelot II Dec 3 #3
Nothing comes to mind that would be any worse than this. Klarkashton Dec 3 #4
Heh. dchill Dec 3 #2
OMG, thank you for this OP!👏🏼👍🏼 arthritisR_US Dec 3 #5
Ohh The Fascist Magats REally Wanted to Cha Dec 3 #6
Bannon, Flynn, Kushner, Roger Stone... 33taw Dec 3 #7
Democrats in power are showing the only Hassler Dec 3 #8
Fuck you pukes. The Unmitigated Gall Dec 3 #9
It was always a joke dpibel Dec 3 #10
LOL. The GOP doesn't give one flying fuck about the law. Karasu Dec 3 #11
Bull. Lots of people are above the law. Demobrat Dec 3 #12
Yes. That was exactly my point. Ocelot II Dec 3 #14
K&R Solly Mack Dec 3 #13
Agree, although Elessar Zappa Dec 3 #15
Great rant Ocelot. One can have an opinion on the correctness of the issue, sure. bluesbassman Dec 3 #16
Those on the right are beyond caring about their hypocrisy av8rdave Dec 3 #17
"No one is above the law!", that myth was shown just to be that a myth. republianmushroom Dec 3 #18
Thank you! What an eye open analysis question everything Dec 3 #19
YES! MineralMan Dec 3 #20

Klarkashton

(2,285 posts)
1. Except that a piece of shit felon fraud rapist is going to
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 12:26 AM
Dec 3

Be the president of the USA. So there is that.

Klarkashton

(2,285 posts)
4. Nothing comes to mind that would be any worse than this.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 12:35 AM
Dec 3

The vote was in the hands of all time peak stupidity. Low brow assholes that were doing their own research.

Cha

(305,853 posts)
6. Ohh The Fascist Magats REally Wanted to
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 12:37 AM
Dec 3

Persecute Hunter Biden Some MOAR!!

They Cannot Handle Pres Biden's Son Hunter Getting Out of their Clutches!

Cope Harder Assholes.

Hassler

(3,782 posts)
8. Democrats in power are showing the only
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 12:46 AM
Dec 3

Thing you can count on them for is raising billions and losing elections. What poseurs. Reminds me of the gathering sharks for Al Franken.

The Unmitigated Gall

(4,619 posts)
9. Fuck you pukes.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 12:57 AM
Dec 3

Charles Kushner was above the law and you didn’t have a problem.
So choke on it now, fucks.

Karasu

(368 posts)
11. LOL. The GOP doesn't give one flying fuck about the law.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 01:59 AM
Dec 3

If they did, Trump wouldn't have even been able to fucking run.

Elessar Zappa

(16,077 posts)
15. Agree, although
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 10:01 AM
Dec 3

I still believe we still have one of the better justice systems in the world (behind Scandinavia countries, Germany, Netherlands, Austria, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and (possibly) the UK. But yeah, it’s still not anywhere near perfect and definitely favors the rich and powerful to an unacceptable degree. Our prison system lowers our ranking too (we have terrible prisons).

bluesbassman

(19,904 posts)
16. Great rant Ocelot. One can have an opinion on the correctness of the issue, sure.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 10:14 AM
Dec 3

But to say with a straight face “no one is above the law” after what we’ve just witnessed with TSF is beyond the pale. And the truly disgusting thing is that it’s not a one and done proposition. He’s flaunting the “above the law” position daily by nominating the most worthless, least qualified, corrupt, and dangerous people he can find to fill the top positions in government. He’s just rubbing it in the entire Nation’s faces.

av8rdave

(10,617 posts)
17. Those on the right are beyond caring about their hypocrisy
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 10:39 AM
Dec 3

The list of felons trump has pardoned is long and disgusting.

republianmushroom

(18,179 posts)
18. "No one is above the law!", that myth was shown just to be that a myth.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 12:10 PM
Dec 3

From the AG and the DOJ to the Supreme Court, just a myth.

46 months and counting

question everything

(49,084 posts)
19. Thank you! What an eye open analysis
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 05:02 PM
Dec 3

The worse, I think, is that one in Florida who decided to play SNL Emily Litella about the bathroom full of classified documents “Never Mind.”

And now they are talking about appearing before a House committee? I hope he can just invoke the 5th.


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