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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn defense of Joe Biden.
Joe's pardon of Hunter is a credit to his good judgment and character. Statements he made prior to Trump's election were predicated on America's long tradition of equal justice before the law. After Trump's election, that is no longer a credible expectation. Joe's decision is a clear-eyed recognition that we are entering a new era of corrupt and illegitimate use of the courts.

notinkansas
(1,194 posts)There may no longer be ANY justice - that being based on trump's plans for retribution. Biden had no choice other than to pardon Hunter. And I don't want to hear any 'Biden lied' arguments. The situation at the Justice Department is about to change dramatically. Biden saw that and reevaluated his position and did the right thing,.
patphil
(7,515 posts)These people aren't going to follow the rule of law. They'll do whatever Trump wants them to do to whoever Trump wants it done to.
ProudMNDemocrat
(19,486 posts)"The pardoning of Hunter Biden by Joe was 'Joe Biden's final FUCK YOU to tRump.'"
I am certain he will see it. What will tRump do other than DEMAND Joe be impeached? There are not 67 Senators willing to vote to convict him and thus expunge the last 4 years of accomplishments that tRump plans to take full credit for.
CTyankee
(65,820 posts)final scene of "the Godfather" where Michael Corleone wipes out all of his enemies in a long segment at the end of the movie.
TheProle
(3,288 posts)I have no strong feelings either way, but let's not rewrite history.
kimbutgar
(24,478 posts)Changed his mind. I never understood him saying he wouldn’t pardon his son. Now with less then 60 days why the hell not pardon him?
One could change their minds as new information comes forward.
TheProle
(3,288 posts)I am merely stating that he didn't pivot on election night.
When asked in a news conference if President Biden would be tempted to help Hunter, White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said: “We’ve been asked that question multiple times, our answer stands, which is no.”
Biden also emphasised in June that he was “satisfied” that his son had received a fair trial - in contrast to his comments on Sunday where he said Hunter had been the subject of “a miscarriage of justice”.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceql5v5v0xlo
paleotn
(20,054 posts)He changed his mind given recent events. Why even go there with this shit?
TheProle
(3,288 posts)Read the OP.
IT makes the distinction between pre and post election.
thomski64
(626 posts)..making Kamala President for the last week, and that would be an excellent Fuck You to Demented DonOld... making all his Chinese 47 merchandise worthless...
kimbutgar
(24,478 posts)Please Joe do it for a Xmas president for us!
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,893 posts)hay rick
(8,549 posts)I didn't say that Biden made his decision at that point, I said that the expectation of equal justice before the law changed at that time. I think that Biden didn't expect Trump to win. When he did, like all of us, Joe needed some time to process the shock and consider the new landscape. When Trump stated that he would nominate Hunter-obsessed Kash Patel to head the FBI, Trump signaled his commitment to retribution and left Joe with little choice.
Hope22
(3,673 posts)He has his reasons. The choices that TSF has made for partners in crime are frightening. I would expect Biden to circle the wagons where his family is concerned. Once again a focused not a feeble mind.
Skittles
(162,406 posts)YES INDEED
paleotn
(20,054 posts)That's not rewriting history.
Owens
(445 posts)Why should Democrats or Biden expect Trump to follow laws, democracy or common sense. Trump and his administration nominees have stated several times, they are going after democrats and Americans for standing up to him.
Probatim
(3,102 posts)From the party of Law and Order.
Dave Id
(74 posts)A loving father will do what they can to protect their son. Even one who might be 'imperfect'.
Buckeyeblue
(5,828 posts)No one gets prosecuted for incorrectly filling out the gun background form. And it's possible based on recent second amendment rulings that the law is unconstitutional. As far as the tax evasion, all back taxes and penalties have been paid.
All the outrage is much ado about nothing. He didn't hurt anyone other than himself.
DownriverDem
(6,760 posts)trump pardoned over 200 folks. Hunter is on trump's enemy list. I agree with Biden pardoning Hunter.
hay rick
(8,549 posts)Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,490 posts)Picaro
(1,872 posts)rubbersole
(9,494 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(11,059 posts)douchebag purity police and Republicans??
There are bigger problems afoot people - like the DESTRUCTION OF OUR DEMOCRACY.
Macrophylla
(201 posts)Will be out of the news cycle and totally forgotten by next week.
It's the latest shiny object the press will play around with and eventually move on to the next shiny object.
That way they can be fair and balanced as all the news lately is all about a certain orange shitstain.
Skittles
(162,406 posts)NO REASON FOR THEM TO QUIT NOW
iluvtennis
(21,083 posts)let this be put to rest.
The Unmitigated Gall
(4,710 posts)Solitary confinement, rotten food, all the works to break his sanity.
For the time being, equal justice under law is dead.
Jack Valentino
(1,657 posts)He isn't running for anything anymore,
and has NO FUCKS LEFT to GIVE!!!
I applaud his action in pardoning his son,
first and foremost for what is probably not the best of reasons---
MAGGOT HEADS are exploding, as I predicted,
and it is a great big "FUCK YOU FROM JOE BIDEN" to the lot of them!