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ecstatic

(34,519 posts)
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 03:57 PM Dec 3

Should Biden "blanket pardon" everyone who trump is threatening to lock up?

What can be done to protect everyone who trump is threatening to lock up (Jack Smith, Alvin Bragg, Liz Cheney, etc)?

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Should Biden "blanket pardon" everyone who trump is threatening to lock up? (Original Post) ecstatic Dec 3 OP
Yup, and fuck the whiners who bloviate about it. Ocelot II Dec 3 #1
lol! Might as well go out with a bang! ecstatic Dec 3 #2
"Own the Reps!" kerry-is-my-prez Dec 3 #22
Yup! Hannity and Ingraham can go shove it where it doesn't shine! Initech Dec 3 #10
Then it sets the precedent DeepWinter Dec 4 #38
Agreed but trump already set that precedent. ecstatic Dec 4 #39
We already look like idiots on the world stage Prairie Gates Dec 4 #40
Absolutely Mz Pip Dec 3 #3
I think it's the only way he can defend those citizens FullySupportDems Dec 3 #4
And for some of them, who have received a lot of Mike 03 Dec 3 #11
Yes! Jim__ Dec 3 #5
He should neuter all of Trump's grievance tour against anyone bucolic_frolic Dec 3 #6
Absolutely. CincyDem Dec 3 #7
Yes! VMA131Marine Dec 3 #8
I'm for it, big time Mike 03 Dec 3 #9
so we need a copy of that list... ecstatic Dec 3 #12
Yes. There are no longer rules nor norms. sinkingfeeling Dec 3 #13
Von Papen enid602 Dec 3 #14
Of course he should. ramedy Dec 3 #15
Yes - and pardon all the Dreamers OutNow Dec 3 #16
Yes Demsrule86 Dec 3 #17
Yes and pardon the millions of anti trumpers too. Rump considers us The Enemy of the People. Trueblue1968 Dec 3 #18
Yes ArnoldLayne Dec 3 #19
Hell, yes! BigmanPigman Dec 3 #20
Yes, absolutely NameAlreadyTaken Dec 3 #21
Yes LetMyPeopleVote Dec 3 #23
Here is a list of people who President Biden may consider pardoning LetMyPeopleVote Dec 3 #24
Yes he should, and then he should issue himself one, Volaris Dec 3 #25
Yes pardon away President Biden kimbutgar Dec 3 #26
Yes tRump even threatened people who donate to the Harris campaign. So I want one. And maybe Biden can diane in sf Dec 3 #27
Fuck yeah Blue Owl Dec 3 #28
Can he keep ***** from pardoning the J6 rebels? Seeking Serenity Dec 3 #29
Yes. Dulcinea Dec 3 #30
Hell YES!! Jit423 Dec 3 #31
Yes. madashelltoo Dec 3 #32
ABSOLUTELY!!!! FlyingPiggy Dec 3 #33
Yes bdamomma Dec 3 #34
Not a chance... it's like an admission of criminality to the public. WarGamer Dec 3 #35
Don't care. If appointing a criminal who spent years in jail to be an ambassador, all rules were thrown out. lark Dec 4 #43
Is Garland on the list? Emile Dec 3 #36
No pardon for him - he is guilty as sin and will never be charged. lark Dec 4 #42
He should do everything in his power to fuck up everything the trump cult wants to accomplish. SamKnause Dec 4 #37
100%!! lark Dec 4 #41

Ocelot II

(121,502 posts)
1. Yup, and fuck the whiners who bloviate about it.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:01 PM
Dec 3

Everybody who's on Trump's and Patel's enemies lists should be given the same general pardon that Ford gave Nixon, because every last one of them has a target on his/her back. The worst thing Nixon ever did to his "enemies" was threaten IRS audits, which the IRS commissioner at the time refused to do. Trump will try to bring the full weight of the FBI and the DoJ down on at least some of these people. The purpose will not necessarily be to actually send them to prison (most won't make it past a grand jury), but to bankrupt them in the process of having to defend themselves, and to deter others from talking smack about Dear Leader.

DeepWinter

(591 posts)
38. Then it sets the precedent
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 07:26 AM
Dec 4

the next President pardons all his friends. Then the next President pardons all his friends. Then the next President pardons all his friends. Then the next President pardons all his friends. Then the next President pardons all his friends. ...

And we all look like children on the Worlds stage.

ecstatic

(34,519 posts)
39. Agreed but trump already set that precedent.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 08:05 AM
Dec 4

We don't know what will happen but we do know that trump has promised to punish everyone who attempted to hold him accountable.

Unfortunately, thanks to garland, Democrats already had a massive failure by not bringing trump to justice prior to 2024. Are we now going to add on to the failure by not protecting the people who tried to do their jobs? That would be an absolute disgrace and no amount of spinning or purist drivel would fix that.

FullySupportDems

(199 posts)
4. I think it's the only way he can defend those citizens
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:06 PM
Dec 3

From being attacked by a domestic threat to their civil rights. It's a clear danger to them and I think he is obligated. What are they gonna do, not vote for him? Threaten him with something they haven't already? Whine?

Mike 03

(17,378 posts)
11. And for some of them, who have received a lot of
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:20 PM
Dec 3

publicity, or testified, and who lack resources, I would even be in favor of providing them with personal security, or funds to pay for private security.

We owe it to them.

(And don't get me started on how the NY court system let down Stormy Daniels...)

bucolic_frolic

(47,607 posts)
6. He should neuter all of Trump's grievance tour against anyone
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:08 PM
Dec 3

Trump is a crooked sheriff. This isn't the Olde West.

CincyDem

(6,962 posts)
7. Absolutely.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:12 PM
Dec 3

Many of those folks represent leadership of some core institutions of democracy. Protecting them is an important element of “doing everything possible to protect democracy”.

Pardon power for whatever reason has always been a presidential power…thing to assert it to its fullest. Imagine our future with Kash’s hit list in jail.

Pardon them all.

Mike 03

(17,378 posts)
9. I'm for it, big time
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:16 PM
Dec 3

Trump's self-proclaimed "Secretary of Retribution," Ivan Raiklin, wants to persecute the Capitol Hill police officers who testified about the Jan 6 insurrection! His list allegedly contains the names of over 350 people and to my knowledge it has not been made public.

As we all know, a lot of very decent and courageous people are on these lists. I am guessing that everyone involved in the January 6 Committee in any way, shape and form is on that list, including Cassidy Hutchison, Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss.

The thought of not protecting these folks is inconceivable if President Biden has the power to do so.

ecstatic

(34,519 posts)
12. so we need a copy of that list...
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:21 PM
Dec 3

It shouldn't be too hard for someone to trick empty g or bobo into providing it.

enid602

(9,088 posts)
14. Von Papen
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 04:30 PM
Dec 3

That’s like Fritz von Papen issuing blanket pardon protection to all the people who Hitler was threatening to lock up,

OutNow

(889 posts)
16. Yes - and pardon all the Dreamers
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 05:18 PM
Dec 3

Since the Supreme Court has decided that a President can't get in trouble for doing any official act, he should issue pardons for anyone on Trump's enemy list and lots of other folks including MSNBC folks and any others media folks who were critical of Trump. In addition, he should do a blanket pardon for all Dreamers so they can stay in the USA. Come on Joe, get that pardon machine cranking baby.

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,536 posts)
24. Here is a list of people who President Biden may consider pardoning
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 08:44 PM
Dec 3

I remember the Nixon's enemies list. My high school civics teacher/debate coach made sure that we all saw this list. There as a joke that not being on the list was an actual insult by Nixon

There are some republicans on this list






Volaris

(10,645 posts)
25. Yes he should, and then he should issue himself one,
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 08:44 PM
Dec 3

And when the SC says 'bro no you can't pardon your damn self', it can be turned as precedent against trump when he absolutely does the same thing.

Blanket pardons for everyone on Kashs list, to start with.

Speaking of, can someone here print up a form letter that I can sign, that can be sent to DirectorFBIOffice.gov, or whatever, requesting I be put on Kashs Enimies List?

I'll happily sigh it, and if a few million other of us do the same, at least the world will see him as the laughing stock he is.

kimbutgar

(23,613 posts)
26. Yes pardon away President Biden
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 08:46 PM
Dec 3

He’s going to be our last Democratic elected president so please proceed.

RIP USA 1776-2025 we will have a dictatorship that won’t go away in 2028.

diane in sf

(4,102 posts)
27. Yes tRump even threatened people who donate to the Harris campaign. So I want one. And maybe Biden can
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 08:57 PM
Dec 3

just pre-emptively pardon the entire population of the US and territories,

Blue Owl

(54,921 posts)
28. Fuck yeah
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 08:58 PM
Dec 3

Now THAT would be a BIG FUCKING DEAL….

Joe should pardon EVERY AMERICAN who believes in DEMOCRACY and not the fat fuck’s fascist Russian agenda — fuck them all to the depths of hell….

Seeking Serenity

(3,080 posts)
29. Can he keep ***** from pardoning the J6 rebels?
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 09:09 PM
Dec 3

We turned into a lawless society a month ago anyway, so why not give it a try?

Dulcinea

(7,603 posts)
30. Yes.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 09:16 PM
Dec 3

What's he got to lose? He should tell the McFelon to go fuck himself while he's at it, but Joe is too much of a class act for that.

WarGamer

(15,762 posts)
35. Not a chance... it's like an admission of criminality to the public.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 10:16 PM
Dec 3

The optics would be REALLY bad.

lark

(24,343 posts)
43. Don't care. If appointing a criminal who spent years in jail to be an ambassador, all rules were thrown out.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 10:12 AM
Dec 4

In electing a criminal traitor our country has shown they want fascism, only they think it will only hurt others and not them. How ironic it will be when they are losing everything too - only the people who voted for him 100% deserve every bad thing they will get - WE DON"T!!!

lark

(24,343 posts)
42. No pardon for him - he is guilty as sin and will never be charged.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 10:10 AM
Dec 4

I hope his conscience hurts him every day though, it would be fitting.

SamKnause

(13,876 posts)
37. He should do everything in his power to fuck up everything the trump cult wants to accomplish.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 07:20 AM
Dec 4

Fuck the optics.

We are fighting to save democracy from the criminal trump cult.

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