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Michael Cohen believes Trump will try to take over both Canada and Mexico (Original Post) highplainsdem Dec 2024 OP
Also dweller Dec 2024 #1
The planet resource extraction oligarch kings. magicarpet Dec 2024 #2
You forgot rape, baby, rape kerry-is-my-prez Dec 2024 #3
Oh, fer f*ck sake! Please !! stopdiggin Dec 2024 #4
And shall I have to live the rest of my life Otto_Harper Dec 2024 #5
The US is not a signatory to the ICC, which sucks because if it was GeeDumbya Bush and his handler OMGWTF Dec 2024 #26
Wow. Cohen. knows him better than anyone. Trump is floating a "Trial Balloon" kerry-is-my-prez Dec 2024 #6
More likely that Canadians like myself will troll the dotard mercilessly. canuckledragger Dec 2024 #11
Substance abuse really does rot one's brain Seeking Serenity Dec 2024 #7
And when he does all this brettdale Dec 2024 #8
And Biden durablend Dec 2024 #10
I wouldn't joke about this. He has consistently done worse than we ever imagined doc03 Dec 2024 #9
It'll never happen as the military would never go along with it. brush Dec 2024 #12
Their arrogance & incompetence might be the only things that save us. That & their infighting. CrispyQ Dec 2024 #29
Agreed. It's tragic that our 250-year-old tradition has been... brush Dec 2024 #30
This makes sense based on Trump/MAGA mindset and geopolitical realities. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #13
it's a MONUMENTAL joke stopdiggin Dec 2024 #14
You obviously know nothing about ruthless, dangerous psychopaths. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #18
paranoid. delusional. conspiratorial. spurious ... stopdiggin Dec 2024 #25
Like one of my professors used to say, there are a million jokes in this world. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #19
Trump won't succeed, but he'll allow Putin and probably Xi to succeed. yardwork Dec 2024 #33
We do not yet know how all of this will unfold. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #34
Finish off what James K Polk wanted? Rstrstx Dec 2024 #15
The right has been fomenting hate against Canada. Blue Full Moon Dec 2024 #16
I think this is entirely possible. usedtobedemgurl Dec 2024 #17
I don't know... Greenland maybe? NT Jk23 Dec 2024 #20
I keep saying this...tRump has a PRE-OCCUPATION with SIZE! ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2024 #21
So first he wants to deport all the illegal Mexican migrants milestogo Dec 2024 #22
Didn't Cohen also claim that he was going to Jail? tenderfoot Dec 2024 #23
I hope this Greg_In_SF Dec 2024 #24
Canada and Canadians want nothing to do with the shitshow south of their border Charging Triceratops Dec 2024 #27
Trump feels inadequate next to Putin C_U_L8R Dec 2024 #28
How about if Canada annexes us? 33taw Dec 2024 #31
How about just Washington, Oregon, and California?? sdfernando Dec 2024 #32
Michael Cohen??? Pffffttt who cares what he says anymore? IcyPeas Dec 2024 #35
Hitler annexed Austria. maveric Dec 2024 #36
This dude needs no more attention Elmotime Dec 2024 #37

magicarpet

(18,071 posts)
2. The planet resource extraction oligarch kings.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 07:40 PM
Dec 2024

Drill baby drill,....

Blast baby blast,..

Pilfer, plunder, and steal.

Oh yes,... we must not forget,...

Kill,... kill,... and kill some more.

Otto_Harper

(822 posts)
5. And shall I have to live the rest of my life
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 07:53 PM
Dec 2024

ashamed of the US servicemen who just roll into Canada for no damn good reason except they were told to? The Nuremberg defense is not going to hold water in front of the ICC.

OMGWTF

(4,679 posts)
26. The US is not a signatory to the ICC, which sucks because if it was GeeDumbya Bush and his handler
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 01:49 PM
Dec 2024

Cheney The Dick would have been brought before them for war crimes.

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,854 posts)
6. Wow. Cohen. knows him better than anyone. Trump is floating a "Trial Balloon"
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 08:03 PM
Dec 2024

Trump is just crazy and stupid enough to try to do that. Or he will “troll” the Canadians incessantly for the next four years.

doc03

(37,731 posts)
9. I wouldn't joke about this. He has consistently done worse than we ever imagined
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 08:30 PM
Dec 2024

so far. He has threatened to send troops to Mexico already. He may decide he has to save Canada from
left wing radicals. He said he will use the military against American citizens if necessary.

brush

(59,609 posts)
12. It'll never happen as the military would never go along with it.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 08:39 PM
Dec 2024

Last edited Wed Dec 4, 2024, 02:31 AM - Edit history (1)

The theory of it is not outlandish as it's a typical raison d'être of fascist governments...'breathing room' as Hitler called his move to re-militarize the Rhineland.

Authoritarian regimes typically try such moves for one big reason...to galvanize their followers by giving them a cause, and to gauge who they are and their loyalty, certainly a quality important to trump.

I doubt our military whose loyalty is to the Constitution, will go along with it.

I've often thought that this 'breathing room' concept and lack of it's possibility is why the fascist movements/politicians in today's Europe have nowhere to expand and test the concept and therefore gain followers and their loyalty.

trump, whose role model is Hitler, would love to try it but the sick fuck who bungled the covid pandemic so spectacularly, is aging, has rapidly declining mental acuity and was never the sharpest tool in the shed, is just not capable of pulling it off as there will be tremendous opposition from women and men with working and capable brains.




CrispyQ

(39,507 posts)
29. Their arrogance & incompetence might be the only things that save us. That & their infighting.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 01:56 PM
Dec 2024

The damage & harm will still be horrific. I can't believe we're just going to hand our 250-year-old experiment over to people who want to destroy it. I hope there's a plan in the works, but I don't think there is, other than batten down the hatches.

brush

(59,609 posts)
30. Agreed. It's tragic that our 250-year-old tradition has been...
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 02:17 PM
Dec 2024

put in the hands of an insurrectionist who keeps making one after the other whack job cabinet appointments.

Hope there are enough adults in Congress and the military to ride us through this kakistocracy of an admin.

Irish_Dem

(68,524 posts)
13. This makes sense based on Trump/MAGA mindset and geopolitical realities.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 09:15 PM
Dec 2024

Trump and his minders are quite capable of thinking about taking over Canada and Mexico.

Trump forced Trudeau to grovel at MAL.
And talked about Canada being a great 51st state.
This was not just a joke.

Putin wants control of Ukraine and Europe.
Xi wants Taiwan and control of the Pacific.

Trump gets North America.

It makes sense to me given Trump and MAGA mindset.
And Russian and Chinese geopolitical goals.

Irish_Dem

(68,524 posts)
18. You obviously know nothing about ruthless, dangerous psychopaths.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 08:04 AM
Dec 2024

And the geopolitical plans of the also ruthless and dangerous world autocrats and billionaires.

Humans tend to learn things the hard way unfortunately.

stopdiggin

(13,612 posts)
25. paranoid. delusional. conspiratorial. spurious ...
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 01:42 PM
Dec 2024

Nothing even close to this will ever make its way out of the White House. There might be a lot of craven avarice in the world (although I think the paranoid among us tend to overestimate) - regardless, that does not mean all those are ready to climb aboard the delusion express. (as something called self preservation)

Donald Trump will never see anything remotely like this occurring. And it's doubtful that he even has plans for such. The idea deserves every ounce of ridicule it receives.

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Irish_Dem

(68,524 posts)
19. Like one of my professors used to say, there are a million jokes in this world.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 09:16 AM
Dec 2024

The jokes a person tells are a window into their psyches.

yardwork

(66,316 posts)
33. Trump won't succeed, but he'll allow Putin and probably Xi to succeed.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 03:33 PM
Dec 2024

The world will be far less safe and democracy far less secure once Trump gets through.

Irish_Dem

(68,524 posts)
34. We do not yet know how all of this will unfold.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 04:26 PM
Dec 2024

The specifics will gradually come into more focus over the next four years.

Yes of course, the overall goal is to weaken all the western democracies
and then Putin and Xi will be in control of the new world order.

Blue Full Moon

(2,057 posts)
16. The right has been fomenting hate against Canada.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 07:34 AM
Dec 2024

They sound like Putin. That Canada is full of white supremist nazis. Seems to be more of that ilk here in the United States.
Muskrat grandparents were from Saskatchewan. Odd but Bush Sr. Had mentioned the Trilateral Commission in a speech. Questions about whether market-based economies will be able to address climate change, digital revolution, and rising inequalities.

usedtobedemgurl

(1,649 posts)
17. I think this is entirely possible.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 07:45 AM
Dec 2024

How many times have we said such and such will never happen and it did? I warned my Canadian best friend about this when the lunatic talked about forcing Canada to share their water.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,596 posts)
21. I keep saying this...tRump has a PRE-OCCUPATION with SIZE!
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:51 AM
Dec 2024

Canada is the 2nd largest nation on earth, next to Russia, when it comes to land mass.

Both Mexico and Canada have Natural resources desired by the United States. Canada also has a sophisticated Military equal to ours in many respects. NEVER would either Canada or Mexico surrender their sovereignty to the United States without a fight.

tRump is truly mad!

milestogo

(20,342 posts)
22. So first he wants to deport all the illegal Mexican migrants
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 12:06 PM
Dec 2024

and then he wants to make them legal by Americanizing Mexico?

 
27. Canada and Canadians want nothing to do with the shitshow south of their border
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 01:53 PM
Dec 2024

And who can blame them?

sdfernando

(5,681 posts)
32. How about just Washington, Oregon, and California??
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 03:25 PM
Dec 2024

In one fell swoop depriving orangeanus' U.S. of any and all west coast ports. Could be fun to watch.

IcyPeas

(23,469 posts)
35. Michael Cohen??? Pffffttt who cares what he says anymore?
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 04:26 PM
Dec 2024

Is he looking for a new job with Trump? I wouldn't be surprised at anything .

I think Michael Cohens 15 minutes of fame is up. He's been cashing in on this for years now. Him and a few others.... with their tv appearances and books. What was it all for?

now, Cohen is calling for the entire case to be dismissed, according to an email he sent to Vanity Fair.

‘The American people have spoken and re-elected Donald Trump,’ Cohen wrote.

‘Accordingly, I believe we must all acknowledge and respect the office of the Presidency and dismiss the case forthwith.’
 

Elmotime

(20 posts)
37. This dude needs no more attention
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 04:50 PM
Dec 2024

he is a scumbag who will say whatever he thinks will get him attention

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