Someone has started a campaign for us to not trust

[applegrove]

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the internet, reality, our eyes in novel most basic way. I have seen numerous false posts on the internet in the last week suddenly: the location of a famous monestory, the date of some event. Very few before. These are the most obvious of fake locations or way off dates and the like. Our sence of space and sense of time, thus history and science (space and time), are being F'ed with. Not just our politics or our sense of right and wrong. Time and space are the basics of our perception.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/2UX55ZCEcKg3v8bB/

Then again maybe it is AI that is clueless on space and time.

[Fiendish Thingy]

1. You saw very few false posts on the internet until last week?

Tell me you’re joking- what about four years ago?

[Ms. Toad]

2. Did you forget the sarcasm tag?

Not only is the internet rife with false posts (and has been for at least a decade), there are way too many false or misleading posts on DU. Without even scanning the front page of GD, I'm pretty sure I could find at least one without moving beyond the front page.

[applegrove]

4. I'm talking basic facts like where a famous monestary is.

The internet is full of bs but I didn't think time and/or space would be attacked. Is there is nothing we plebs are allowed to share together? The BS on morality and politics and trust in government has been going on for a long time. But our sense of time or place? This baited in otherwise innocuous pleasant non political OPs? That is new. Are we not allowed to share a sence of time or geographic location with others? A shared sense of anything?

[Ms. Toad]

11. It is not new.

You may not have noticed it. But it has been going on for a long time, including on DU.

You can, of course, share whatever you want (within the limits of the forum). But don't be surprised if a factually incorrect assertion is identified as factually incorrect.

[LudwigPastorius]

3. "Our sence of space and sense of time, thus history, are being F'ed with"

Only if you get your sense of space and time from Facebook, or other internet slush pile.

[applegrove]

5. You get it re-inforced everywhere you go. Well not anymore.

[wishstar]

6. Don't think the inaccuracies are a conspiracy, just increasing incompetence and/or use of AI

One thing I've noticed more frequently recently is misspellings of common words on mainstream media headlines, including my local ABC affiliate. Many companies have downsized their staff and there is less accuracy and fact checking plus increasing use of AI in production of articles and media postings.

[applegrove]

7. Maybe it is AI. But I saw the same false info on dates too.

There certainly are trolls. I've been alerting on some asshole in an introvert feed who is posting sarcastic pictures of black women.

[Blue Full Moon]

8. False memories

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2448178-ai-tweaks-to-photos-and-videos-can-alter-our-memories/
Can cause people to misremember what they had seen. There is concern over false memories could be implanted either on a personal level with edited photo albums or a wider level with images released in mainstream or social media . False memories can be implanted using AI and anyone can do it.

[SKKY]

9. We've always been at war with Eastasia.

[ms liberty]

10. Not weaponized lies and propaganda, just enshittification happening

[applegrove]

13. Thank you. Maybe it is AI meant to enshittificate

our brains by giving our shared sense of time and place a workover. And the American people and others people's of the world pay for the energy grid that allows AI to work.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

12. Facebook's AI Spam Isn't the 'Dead Internet': It's the Zombie Internet

https://www.404media.co/facebooks-ai-spam-isnt-the-dead-internet-its-the-zombie-internet/

https://archive.ph/2JNKK

Over the last few months, many have proposed that the AI spam taking over Facebook is a great example of the “Dead Internet Theory,” which posits that large portions of the internet are made up of bots talking to bots, filtered through the lens of recommendation and engagement algorithms. Facebook is undeniably cooked, a decaying, depressing hall of horrors full of viral AI-generated content that seemingly gets worse every day.

But I do not think Facebook is the dead internet. Instead, I think it is something worse. Facebook is the zombie internet, where a mix of bots, humans, and accounts that were once humans but aren’t anymore mix together to form a disastrous website where there is little social connection at all.

I have spent more time than anyone I know endlessly scrolling through AI spam on Facebook. I have watched the evolution of Facebook’s AI spam go from slightly uncanny modifications of real images to the completely bizarre and obviously fake. I have done this from my own Facebook account, which I have had since 2005, as well as from two burner accounts I created specifically to track how AI-generated content is recommended on the platform and to see whether Facebook would put AI-generated images into my feed organically. I now use Facebook exclusively to see what kinds of bizarre AI content is going viral, and to attempt to figure out who is making it, why they are making it, and who is interacting with it.

Over the last few months, I have messaged roughly 300 people who have commented on AI-generated posts to try to ascertain if they are real, which has been an arduous task because Facebook keeps rate-limiting me. I have studied the profiles and activity of hundreds of Facebook users who are commenting on these images. I have also asked my friends and family, as well as 404 Media readers, to send me examples of AI-generated images they’ve seen on Facebook. I have spoken to Stanford University researchers who attempted to systematically study this phenomenon, talked to Facebook users who have been closely tracking the spread of AI since last year, and I have scanned through tens of thousands of viral AI-generated images on the platform. Definitively saying what’s happening across the entire platform is impossible, because Facebook remains a gigantic social network with billions of active users. But I have now seen enough to make some educated guesses about what is happening.