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soandso

(1,631 posts)
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 05:15 AM Dec 4

UPDATE: ***SEE POST #88!!!!!!!*** What is up with these mystery drones in New Jersey?

Last edited Sun Dec 8, 2024, 06:49 AM - Edit history (1)

Been going on for like a month. They are not UFOs (those are flying over airports in the UK! Another very weird story...). These are drones as big as cars (!!!) and they stay in the air for hours (how?). LE says they're no threat but doesn't know who is operating them and the FBI is even investigating. WTF??? How can they be determined not to be a threat if they're up there every night and nobody knows who's behind it or what they're doing? I find this extremely creepy. Isn't this is national security issue? Why can't LE or the FBI send their own drones up for a closer look - or use a zoom lens?

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UPDATE: ***SEE POST #88!!!!!!!*** What is up with these mystery drones in New Jersey? (Original Post) soandso Dec 4 OP
wow YoshidaYui Dec 4 #1
It is bizarre soandso Dec 4 #2
Groups of them soandso Dec 4 #3
This is why JustAnotherGen Dec 4 #4
Are there any military installations, govt research facilities, nuclear power plants, located there? Irish_Dem Dec 4 #5
Yes... 2naSalit Dec 4 #11
Putin checking to see if Donald if naughty or nice? Irish_Dem Dec 4 #12
I'm going all out... 2naSalit Dec 4 #13
No chance. Except to have him over for dinner. usonian Dec 7 #30
Extraterrestrials are too damn evolved choie Dec 7 #33
I guess we don't want get in their way if that's the case. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 7 #45
Looking for really soured meat? arthritisR_US Dec 9 #138
excuse me while I wheeze myself silly NJCher Dec 8 #76
I know... 2naSalit Dec 8 #91
Also... Wuddles440 Dec 4 #14
The lengths some men go to wolfie001 Dec 4 #7
I know what can be done. ReRe Dec 4 #6
What about the collateral damage? wolfie001 Dec 4 #8
It can be done. This has long passed the curiosity phase. Callie1979 Dec 7 #31
What? I said ReRe Dec 8 #83
Think about it soandso Dec 8 #118
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 8 #124
Seriously ReRe Dec 9 #144
I get your point but the reporting is that they are as big as arthritisR_US Dec 9 #139
Did you see #88 in this thread? ReRe Friday #166
the people are meeting up all right NJCher Dec 8 #78
But still ReRe Dec 8 #84
r/UFOs is a really good reddit sub soandso Dec 8 #119
I'm one of those Town Council.members JustAnotherGen Dec 8 #100
I'm not say it's aliens but it was the aliens. Ray Bruns Dec 4 #9
I'm beginning to wonder soandso Dec 7 #18
Spoofing GPS signals is a known countermeasure LunaSea Dec 7 #34
Thanks for that soandso Dec 7 #42
The phrase was "a closed-box trailer with antennas or a large van that seems out of place" muriel_volestrangler Friday #167
was unaware of his NJCher Dec 8 #81
wow! NJCher Dec 8 #79
Yes, that was a few days ago soandso Dec 8 #80
They were flying over JustAnotherGen Dec 8 #101
I think it was this alien: area51 Dec 7 #62
Marvin was much more classier n/t gay texan Dec 8 #130
We need to get Giorgio over here! soandso Dec 8 #120
This is AMERICA! Conjuay Dec 4 #10
A post from a UFO witness thread soandso Dec 7 #44
Don't look up cynical_idealist Dec 4 #15
It's still going on! soandso Dec 6 #16
That looks like a plane to me. I can see the silhouette of the vertical tail against the sky. Hotler Dec 7 #39
Maybe it is Assad's plane that took that U-Turn in Damascus? displacedvermoter Dec 8 #109
Okay, look at this! soandso Dec 6 #17
I have property in the foothills outside of Tucson-I've seen some strange things in the sky. 58Sunliner Dec 9 #141
What have you seen soandso Dec 9 #142
Not as close as the video. 58Sunliner Dec 9 #147
Not drones Polybius Dec 7 #19
Something we don't understand soandso Dec 7 #20
This guys says 30-50 each night over his neighborhood soandso Dec 7 #21
Hey, is that a plane or a drone? soandso Dec 7 #22
he Hotler Dec 7 #25
or elon-ians testing new neighborhood surveillance tools for the nominee to run the FBI? Attilatheblond Dec 7 #32
Imagine tens of drones, as big as cars soandso Dec 7 #23
Time to take some of them DOWN. PAST time. Callie1979 Dec 7 #35
Uh huh soandso Dec 7 #24
There were JustAnotherGen Dec 7 #26
Wow, an eye witness! soandso Dec 7 #27
It's just crazy JustAnotherGen Dec 8 #98
After watching Luna Sea's video soandso Dec 8 #99
My tiny PD JustAnotherGen Dec 8 #102
Glad your husband did that. I love trees! electric_blue68 Dec 8 #131
He's from Calabria JustAnotherGen Dec 8 #133
Shows his emotions.... passionately! electric_blue68 Dec 8 #134
I'm a progressive but I say blast a couple of these things down...look at the pieces...find out...nt wcmagumba Dec 7 #28
If they're not too high, a 12 gauge with buckshot should do the trick Callie1979 Dec 7 #36
Someone here was saying that they shot at them and hit them but it didn't do anything. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 7 #48
There was a missile shot at a UFO soandso Dec 7 #46
I think it's a federal & state crime womanofthehills Dec 10 #156
It's not and I will post what it is, shortly. soandso Wednesday #157
Please keep us informed Bread and Circuses Dec 7 #29
Maybe people in the area could hire one of those guys who use small drones with cameras to find lost dogs to take a look Attilatheblond Dec 7 #38
My bet is these things can't be jammed soandso Dec 7 #49
Kinda noisy for space alien types Attilatheblond Dec 7 #56
Yeah, the noise is loud and even silly soandso Dec 7 #59
One thing I've learned soandso Dec 8 #122
I'd say the FBI is involved soandso Dec 7 #47
Not necessarily FBI, but it is odd the military are officially clueless, whether they are hiding something or not Bernardo de La Paz Dec 8 #89
I'm sick of secrecy soandso Dec 8 #123
It's not aliens or chupacabras Bernardo de La Paz Dec 9 #145
That's BS soandso Dec 9 #146
What part of New Jersey? usonian Dec 7 #37
It's mentioned in the videos soandso Dec 7 #52
Thanks. I was having fun with War of the Worlds usonian Dec 7 #54
We can rule out Trump or subs soandso Dec 7 #55
Watch the video in post #88 soandso Dec 8 #96
Yes, they are actually appearing not too far from Grover's Mill. LudwigPastorius Dec 8 #73
FBI? Where's the Air Force and Space Command? cbabe Dec 7 #40
I find it inconceivable that the military, FAA and FBI do not know the provenance of these drones. PufPuf23 Dec 7 #41
Why is it not being more reported? First I've heard of it and I'm a news junkie. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 7 #50
It's all over the local bamagal62 Dec 8 #69
Well, I think this is totally out of their "wheelhouse" soandso Dec 7 #51
I agree. This shit needs to stop. Somehow. Callie1979 Dec 8 #111
Amazon making Xmas deliveries. Sneederbunk Dec 7 #43
That actually was my first naive thought Dave says Dec 8 #113
Flying car experiments? Emile Dec 7 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 7 #57
I'll guess it's because they can't soandso Dec 7 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 7 #63
I don't know how calling them drones got started soandso Dec 8 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 8 #68
It's kind of like when you're little soandso Dec 8 #74
I'm with you... PCIntern Dec 8 #86
I'd like to hear your story soandso Dec 8 #125
I am going to dictate this because I'm in a bit of a rush PCIntern Dec 9 #148
Yeah, I don't care what anyone thinks, either soandso Dec 9 #150
I swear, these deniers are so vociferous in their negation PCIntern Wednesday #159
AirPlanes brettdale Dec 7 #58
Yeah? soandso Dec 7 #61
What kind of plane? soandso Dec 7 #64
Flying cars. Rigpa108 Dec 7 #65
Lots of people in NJ seem to have them soandso Dec 8 #67
this seems silly. it is probably just some kids playing a prank Takket Dec 8 #70
their parents are really busy NJCher Dec 8 #82
Car sized drones, no less soandso Dec 8 #85
Manchester Great Britain also Blue Full Moon Dec 8 #71
Over the Royal Air Force base, too soandso Dec 8 #72
NJ "drone" on video in daylight soandso Dec 8 #75
Pay attention at 2:26 soandso Dec 8 #77
Why would anything extraterrestrial have lights on it? Think. Again. Dec 8 #87
Beats me soandso Dec 8 #90
Sighting compilation LunaSea Dec 8 #88
OMG, oh, shit! soandso Dec 8 #92
There's 50+ minutes I'll never get back. -misanthroptimist Dec 8 #115
Preparing for WWIII once Trump takes power. Martial law anyone? n/t AntiFascist Dec 8 #121
Wow on the plasma like one from Mexico, the dark sphere with knobs? spotted from a plane in Thaiiland, and the close.. electric_blue68 Dec 8 #132
I personally find it hard to believe that FBI/NSA/DoD do not know the origin... EarthFirst Dec 8 #93
I don't think "authorities" know any more than we do about what they are soandso Dec 8 #94
Given what we have seen of the threat of drones in Ukraine, I think state police need to be equipped accordingly Amishman Wednesday #160
Something I've been ruminating on these last 4 days JR11 Dec 8 #95
When I posted this OP four days ago soandso Dec 8 #97
Well, my friend JR11 Dec 8 #103
Sun dogs and lens flare JR11 Dec 8 #105
Come on soandso Dec 8 #116
Until confirmed otherwise, I'm going to hope and believe bucolic_frolic Dec 8 #104
me too JR11 Dec 8 #106
also JR11 Dec 8 #108
Whoever "they" are soandso Dec 8 #117
I am of the idea that they probably view us more as a petrie dish to examine. avebury Friday #164
Yes! Jrsygrl96 Dec 8 #107
They want us off their planet. GreenWave Dec 8 #110
Izzy, please stop! Sorry folks,it's my 5 y/o autistic granddaughter just fooling around Wonder Why Dec 8 #112
It's just Elmo trolling everyone. eShirl Dec 8 #114
Drones are the new Swamp Gas. dchill Dec 8 #126
Synchronized drone terrorist attacks. and here come martial law. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 8 #127
I am Rebl2 Dec 8 #128
Arizona, again soandso Dec 8 #129
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Friday #162
Article about detecting false information Kaleva Dec 8 #135
lol soandso Dec 8 #136
Two, but different light configurations soandso Dec 9 #137
"6 Drones Spotted Near Naval Weapons Station Earle"... AntiFascist Dec 9 #140
I don't think that's it soandso Dec 9 #143
I don't think they're aliens... AntiFascist Dec 9 #149
NJ gov says "The minute you get eyes on them, they go dark" soandso Dec 9 #151
A few hours ago soandso Dec 10 #152
I give you Ezekial's wheel soandso Dec 10 #153
Insane number of lights on this one soandso Dec 10 #154
That's a plane muriel_volestrangler Friday #168
Military claims they're not authorized to shoot down the "drones" soandso Dec 10 #155
Post removed Post removed Wednesday #158
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Friday #161
Sworn Congressional testimony: US has ET bodies, and spacecraft BoRaGard Friday #163
They are time travelers on vacation Jersey Devil Friday #165
 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
2. It is bizarre
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 05:28 AM
Dec 4

and from what I understand, drones can't usually fly for such long periods.

JustAnotherGen

(33,749 posts)
4. This is why
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 06:47 AM
Dec 4

I'm keeping the upstairs blinds closed.

Sorry - I live in the area, it's New Jersey . . .and we are laughing in a local women's Facebook group because they are also very close to known swingers clubs.

Like - some kind of weird live stream porn thing?

Irish_Dem

(59,156 posts)
5. Are there any military installations, govt research facilities, nuclear power plants, located there?
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 07:23 AM
Dec 4

2naSalit

(93,203 posts)
13. I'm going all out...
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 10:04 AM
Dec 4

And hoping it's extraterrestrials looking for the orange anus to remove him from the planet. Maybe both him and leon since they hang out together, they could get a twofer. Or maybe they're looking for something else.

choie

(4,679 posts)
33. Extraterrestrials are too damn evolved
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 09:48 PM
Dec 7

to want to kidnap those neanderthals (no disrespect toward neanderthals meant)

wolfie001

(3,812 posts)
7. The lengths some men go to
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 07:37 AM
Dec 4

And there they are, front pew every Sunday. Or worse, leading the congregation!

ReRe

(10,871 posts)
6. I know what can be done.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 07:28 AM
Dec 4

FBI can make an early morning announcement for the drone operators to come forward or else.
If the unknown operators don't come forward before nightfall, send FBI drones up equipped with
little ammunition baring guns and blast them out of the sky when they are flying over a field!

Hey, I wouldn't want something flying over my house at night and not know what the hell it is.
The people need to meet up and pay the town board a little visit.

wolfie001

(3,812 posts)
8. What about the collateral damage?
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 07:42 AM
Dec 4

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Just imagine the surrounding neighborhood.....

Callie1979

(190 posts)
31. It can be done. This has long passed the curiosity phase.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 09:46 PM
Dec 7

The US needs to know WHERE these are coming from & who they belong to
And ANY flying over military installations should either be shot down or have their GPS signals blocked
This shit has been going on for too long.

ReRe

(10,871 posts)
83. What? I said
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 02:39 AM
Dec 8

was "over fields". Animals maybe and insects?
Nah, I actually believe the drone operators can be discovered from above with those fancy schmancy heat seeking see-in-the-dark goggles. I betcha those drone owners live right there in their neighborhoods and think it's a really fun making all this news. Whoever they are, I hope they are publicly indicted, arrested, charged and prosecuted for scaring the whole county half to death.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
118. Think about it
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 05:00 PM
Dec 8

Everyone's saying these are as big as cars. Are there hundreds of NJ drone hobbyists hauling around their drones on trailers every night to take em out for a spin?

Response to soandso (Reply #118)

ReRe

(10,871 posts)
144. Seriously
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 05:50 AM
Dec 9

I'd add their license plate number info down on a list I keep in car to turn into Sheriff's office. Drones as big as go-carts, doon-buggies
or small cars? Them ain't drones. Remember back a couple yrs ago when we had weather balloons flying over? Were they from China or Russia? Do we need to establish a Junior FAA to keep up with miscellaneous things buzzin' around
over our homes & highways, or what?

arthritisR_US

(7,569 posts)
139. I get your point but the reporting is that they are as big as
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 12:41 AM
Dec 9

an airplane so depending on what they are flying over and shooting them down could really hurt home owners below, that size of craft could do some serious damage to those on the ground .

ReRe

(10,871 posts)
166. Did you see #88 in this thread?
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:46 AM
Friday

if not, then do so now, The ones over Sacramento, CA and San Antonio, TX were countless fleets of them!

NJCher

(38,153 posts)
78. the people are meeting up all right
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 01:39 AM
Dec 8

but they are meeting to watch the drones. There is a thread on Reddit saying where they're watching at and people go out to watch with others. Mostly Morris County.

In addition, the thread has people telling their town and if there are drones.

Not all are car-sized.

At least one town has told its citizens they will be flying their own drones and not to panic.

ReRe

(10,871 posts)
84. But still
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 02:58 AM
Dec 8

people need to know what's going on. Too bad we can't draw a drone operator into this discussion.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
18. I'm beginning to wonder
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 01:22 AM
Dec 7

because people are reporting that the drones are making their clocks malfunction, changing the time on them. That's the kind of thing often reported with UFO sightings. It's also extremely suspicious that these drones are super noisy, sounding like old planes. Drones don't sound like that.

https://imgur.com/UF3Wiz1

LunaSea

(2,930 posts)
34. Spoofing GPS signals is a known countermeasure
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 09:48 PM
Dec 7

and will mess up the clock in your car.
Not the first time drone swarms like this have been sighted-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_Colorado_drone_sightings

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
42. Thanks for that
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 10:13 PM
Dec 7

I hadn't heard about that case.

Following the meeting local law enforcement was briefly engaged in a search for an unspecified "command vehicle", which was not found before the lookout was rescinded.

That would be the mother ship.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
80. Yes, that was a few days ago
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 01:46 AM
Dec 8

when that made the news and the FAA put on drone flight restrictions but the drones have not stopped. I guess ALIENS don't give a shit about the FAA, lol.

Conjuay

(2,166 posts)
10. This is AMERICA!
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 08:06 AM
Dec 4

I'm truly surprised one hasn't been shot down!

I know, it's too crowded an area for that, but when has that stopped the 2A types?

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
44. A post from a UFO witness thread
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 10:23 PM
Dec 7
This "triangular object" did it make any noise at all?

I ask because I had an interaction, with four others, with a small triangular dark object, roughly 50 to 60 feet above us.

It made a low pitched hum, and glided smoothly over us three times.

We were deep in the mountains of PA, Skullkill county, in a valley camped in a small clearing near a spring.

this was about 1981, summer late July, early August.

Heres the interesting part.. we all carried handguns in the mountains. the third time it flew over us, we all fired on it.

44 mag, 357mag. 45 acp and 38 spl.

It was flying very slowly, we could all hear the bullets connecting but they had no effect, it never wobbled, stuttered or changed course, just flew off over the trees.

That was the last time it bothered us though. As I said, it flew slow, was only 50 to 60 feet in the air, triangular in shape about the size of a large dinner table.

We were all very accomplished handgun shooters and we all hit it with the rounds fired.

Hotler

(12,350 posts)
39. That looks like a plane to me. I can see the silhouette of the vertical tail against the sky.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 09:53 PM
Dec 7

Or is it?????

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
17. Okay, look at this!
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 05:49 AM
Dec 6

We've got these drones that sound, at least to me, like planes but they are not because LE and the FBI say they're unknown drones. There were the UFOs over the air force base and at the airports in the UK and now look at this shit from Arizona!!!

Multiple UAP’s spotted over Arizona

11/29/24

TikTok user uploads a video showing her family’s encounter with multiple UAP’s while on their way to watch a movie.
The man is heard talking to his brother on the phone, the brother is confirming that he is also seeing the same thing.

When the camera pans to the side a saucer is clearly seen hovering over the houses.

Things are starting to pick up.


58Sunliner

(4,993 posts)
141. I have property in the foothills outside of Tucson-I've seen some strange things in the sky.
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 12:44 AM
Dec 9

58Sunliner

(4,993 posts)
147. Not as close as the video.
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 10:03 AM
Dec 9

But lights from flying craft that can do things that no other craft I have seen, can do. Ability to maneuver on a dime at high speeds and some have also had that very bright central light. You can hear jets and they generally don't fly at night and at their altitude, don't move as fast. Planes move much slower across the night sky compared to these craft. It wasn't just one night.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
20. Something we don't understand
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 04:07 AM
Dec 7

Aliens is too confining. Not from here, definitely.

Tonight:

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soandso

(1,631 posts)
23. Imagine tens of drones, as big as cars
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 08:16 PM
Dec 7

sounding like they're blasting recorded engine noises, over your house every night - staying up for there for hours! Hello, DU, look at this shit!!!

We need to know what the hell is going on and if that means nobody knows what they are, who's operating them and why, then so be it but we need the truth. At the least, this a national security threat. At the worst, well...

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Comment on YT:

@plastiktoyz
20 hours ago
New Jersey guy here, just spent 30 mins with my mother freezing our butts off looking at these drones flying over head just a few minutes ago. I live near McGuire AFB and it was nuts there were like 8-10 of them flying at different altitudes. They are not a small plane, I've seen everything fly around this base from Jets to C-10s these things are weird they have the supposed shape of a small plane but one flew by very low and it looked like it was cloaked so the true shape could be seen. Also it makes a turbine sound not a propeller one. It almost sounded like it was faking the sound like it sounded like an airliner passing by at 30,000 ft you know that sound but It was just above my house where I've had C-10 pass-by at that height and it rattles the whole house. Something is super fishing about all this. If they are military just come out and say "yeah those are ours, just ignore them" but they keep saying they don't know what they are.


 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
27. Wow, an eye witness!
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 09:39 PM
Dec 7

Did you take any pics or video and what did they look and sound like?

IMO, these fucking things are cloaked. They are not what people are seeing and hearing. That's a disguise.

JustAnotherGen

(33,749 posts)
98. It's just crazy
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 07:21 AM
Dec 8

We were all at our Holiday Parade yesterday (electeds) saying we think we have to prepare for a war of the worlds scenario.


Here's one from a reliable witness in our town . . . ie - A true skeptic and cynic who is now a believer.


https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1F31E558Xt/?mibextid=A7sQZp

JustAnotherGen

(33,749 posts)
102. My tiny PD
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 07:39 AM
Dec 8

Doesn't have drones or fire power to knock them down.

I asked one of the County Commissioners what we could do in front of one of my detectives - their response:

Can't Tree Man do anything?

Tree Man is my husband. He chained himself to a tree in our front yard nine years ago to keep the power company from cutting it down.

This council woman's husband is known in the entire county as Tree Man.

Can't make this shit up.

wcmagumba

(3,217 posts)
28. I'm a progressive but I say blast a couple of these things down...look at the pieces...find out...nt
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 09:45 PM
Dec 7

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,403 posts)
48. Someone here was saying that they shot at them and hit them but it didn't do anything.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 10:40 PM
Dec 7

I’m surprised this info isn’t more out there. Finally, maybe a REAL alien story for the NY Post?

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
46. There was a missile shot at a UFO
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 10:30 PM
Dec 7

that looked like a ball of light/orb type thing. The missile exploded at what would have been impact and the UFO was completely uneffected. I agree that someone should shoot at these but suspect the outcome would be the same. However, do it!

Bread and Circuses

(215 posts)
29. Please keep us informed
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 09:45 PM
Dec 7

Something odd is going on.
Why would the FBI say anything about it?
They seem to be too low for FAA radar, but surely a skilled drone operator could send his up to take live video?

Attilatheblond

(4,480 posts)
38. Maybe people in the area could hire one of those guys who use small drones with cameras to find lost dogs to take a look
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 09:50 PM
Dec 7

Anybody know how to jam the signals that control them?

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
49. My bet is these things can't be jammed
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 10:41 PM
Dec 7

because they are not really drones. They're UFOs - and I don't just mean not identified but not from here.

Attilatheblond

(4,480 posts)
56. Kinda noisy for space alien types
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 11:31 PM
Dec 7

Here in AZ, where we have seen some pretty big & weird things that caused USAF to scramble fighters a few years back, we don't get noise with the UFO things.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
59. Yeah, the noise is loud and even silly
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 11:49 PM
Dec 7

Why they're doing it is also odd. If everyone just golden orbs flying and hovering, what could they do about it? Why disguise them with loud noise and semi-resembling planes?

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
122. One thing I've learned
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 05:19 PM
Dec 8

with following this subject for years is that there's all kinds of weirdness up there. Some look solid, some like balls of plasma, some have lights, some don't, some make noise and and others are completely silent.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
47. I'd say the FBI is involved
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 10:38 PM
Dec 7

because nobody knows what these are. All hands on deck and nobody knows jack. That's why it's absurd to BS the public by claiming these are not a threat. I don't understand why no other craft - drones, small planes, helicopter, haven't been sent up to get a closer look. Same with looking at them with a telescope or binoculars. I am convinced, however, what people are hearing and seeing is cloaking and the real thing behind the cloaking probably looks like an orb or some other weird thing. Why whoever is behind this is choosing to cloak these things is strange because there are thousands of sightings of orbs/balls of light.

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,166 posts)
89. Not necessarily FBI, but it is odd the military are officially clueless, whether they are hiding something or not
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 05:49 AM
Dec 8

The FBI wouldn't have air defence / air surveillance systems like the military and civil aviation.

It strikes me as very odd that repeated activity is occurring and the military denies both (a) running them and (b) knowing what they are. It seems they are rather incompetent at defense or at public relations: (b) is clearly an incompetent result and if the case is instead case (a), then the military would be smart to just say, "yeah, that's us, sorry we got you concerned, it is just some operational tests probing our defense systems that need to be kept secret."
 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
123. I'm sick of secrecy
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 05:39 PM
Dec 8

and that's always the way with military and government. Think of the decades of mystery about Roswell. We all live on earth and have a right to be told whatever they know. After all, they're supposed to be working for us, right? Quaint concept, I know. Thing is, with UFOs/UAPs, I don't think they know much but they should just admit it and show us what they do have. Here's one thing I do know: I do not want to see this shit over my house! Why, you might ask. Because cattle mutilations tell me we have no idea about what this is.

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,166 posts)
145. It's not aliens or chupacabras
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 06:56 AM
Dec 9


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_mutilation

https://www.newyorker.com › news › letter-from-the-southwest › the-enduring-panic-about-cow-mutilations
The Enduring Panic About Cow Mutilations | The New Yorker
May 8, 2023The historian Michael Goleman has noted that the mutilation panic of the seventies happened at a time when cattle ranchers had plenty of reasons to resent the federal government. In New Mexico ...


It seems that most of the cases would be farmers who want to cover up a disease like foot-and-mouth from veterinarians and governments who might declare an outbreak and obliterate the farmer's business.

It's easy for many people to exploit people's fears to sell books and make videos for TV and internet.
 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
146. That's BS
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 07:29 AM
Dec 9

Cattle (and some other animals) mutilations were not just a thing in the 70s, though that was the peak, and have been going on for decades. Who is doing such thing, nobody knows. It's mystifying. Cattle are huge animals and how anyone is pulling this off is unknown.

https://www.ruralmessenger.com/kansas-news/mysterious-mutilations-who-or-what-is-killing-these-cattle/

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
52. It's mentioned in the videos
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 10:54 PM
Dec 7

Morristown (I think it was) was one location but much wider area than that. Over some arsenal, an AF base, Trump's golf club, along a river and into Staten Island NY.

usonian

(14,438 posts)
54. Thanks. I was having fun with War of the Worlds
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 11:02 PM
Dec 7

But that was in October.

I often say: "Shit goes down on Saturdays"

Appreciate the OP!

A long ago service buddy came from Mortistown, and the Bedminster stuff is scary in a good way.

Buried treasure from ground penetrating radar.

Mussolini must be worried.

Or scary in a bad way ... Rooskie submarines.

Hope for the best.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
55. We can rule out Trump or subs
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 11:13 PM
Dec 7

because it's happening in Arizona and nearly all over the world. I'm gonna have to do a search and see if any have been reported in Russia or China.

LudwigPastorius

(10,990 posts)
73. Yes, they are actually appearing not too far from Grover's Mill.
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 12:59 AM
Dec 8

Just offhand, I'd say this is a viral marketing campaign.

PufPuf23

(9,282 posts)
41. I find it inconceivable that the military, FAA and FBI do not know the provenance of these drones.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 09:55 PM
Dec 7

Otherwise, the agencies that allegedly protect and gather intelligence are incompetent.

Many large drones day after day over heavy populated areas?

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,403 posts)
50. Why is it not being more reported? First I've heard of it and I'm a news junkie.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 10:48 PM
Dec 7

It’s like they say, they hide this because they don’t want the public to go into a panic over UFOs/Aliens. I would think if it was really something explainable like drones, the government would be coming out and explaining what it is and would stop it.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
51. Well, I think this is totally out of their "wheelhouse"
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 10:50 PM
Dec 7

Being told the police, sheriff and FBI are investigating is probably true enough but what are they gonna do? AFAIK, they haven't even sent up their own aircraft for a closer look - unless they have and didn't say because whatever these things are weren't observable close up. What I mean by that is that they (the "drones" ) could blink out, disappear, shoot into space, or mess with the observer's craft. I can't believe it's been going on so long and nobody's tried to get close to one.

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soandso

(1,631 posts)
66. I don't know how calling them drones got started
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 12:00 AM
Dec 8

Could be because observes could tell they aren't planes so it became a case of what else could they be. Oh, drones, that's the ticket, and they sound like 10,000 law mowers, lol.

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soandso

(1,631 posts)
74. It's kind of like when you're little
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 01:05 AM
Dec 8

and something is wrong but your parents tell you everything is okay, when it's not.

PCIntern

(26,980 posts)
148. I am going to dictate this because I'm in a bit of a rush
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 11:09 AM
Dec 9

My mother and brother who are the most truth,-telling, reliable people I have ever known intimately…

back in the 1940’s:

My mother was picking my brother up at a bus stop from school and an inverted teardrop shaped large craft, Which appeared to have no describable color, and was shimmering,appeared at about a 500 foot elevation. It just hovered there silently. Within a few seconds of them noticing it, two discs shot out from it at roughly 90° angles and disappeared over the horizon with a speed which had never been observed by my mother in her years working for the war department.perhaps two seconds it took for them to vanish.

After a couple minutes that large craft elevated rapidly up and disappeared. Both of them talked about it for the rest of their lives and said that there was no question that it was not of this present technology.

I am going to be blunt and say I don’t give a shit what other people believe or don’t believe that there is no question. There is an existence of these phenomena, whether they are from distant galaxies, or a future Earth, or civilization, of which we have no knowledge which exists within the Earth I don’t wanna hear about swamp gas or jet planes, or astronomical phenomena, masquerading as spacecraft. There have been too many people who are military, police, and ordinary, reasonable citizens who have witnessed these phenomena as a group and of course, there are those who have fabricated stories, but not everyone, that is for certain.

And certainly not my mother and brother, I’ll tell you that. And thank you for your contributions to this thread.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
150. Yeah, I don't care what anyone thinks, either
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 04:25 PM
Dec 9

I think for some of the debunkers it's a matter of not being able to think beyond the concrete or even fear of the unknown. Whatever, that's their problem.

PCIntern

(26,980 posts)
159. I swear, these deniers are so vociferous in their negation
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 12:12 PM
Wednesday

of what individuals have witnessed that I swear they’re being paid to do this. Here, its always the same folk.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
61. Yeah?
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 11:52 PM
Dec 7

Well, you scroll through the thread and look at this pics I posted and tell us what kinds of planes those are.

Rigpa108

(29 posts)
65. Flying cars.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 11:59 PM
Dec 7

People are taking their flying cars out for a spin before .gov starts regulating them.

Takket

(22,635 posts)
70. this seems silly. it is probably just some kids playing a prank
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 12:35 AM
Dec 8

formation drone flying is pretty common now.

NJCher

(38,153 posts)
82. their parents are really busy
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 02:07 AM
Dec 8

Driving them all around NJ every night and staying awake at crazy hours.

As if being a parent isn't demanding enough: now they have to drive kids around to fly drones in formation.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
77. Pay attention at 2:26
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 01:38 AM
Dec 8

what looks like a plane suddenly is clear not:

?si=64AfACnoFupZimV_
 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
90. Beats me
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 05:59 AM
Dec 8

But lots of UFOs do. In this case, I think part of the reason is cloaking. Maybe that's always the case.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
92. OMG, oh, shit!
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 06:46 AM
Dec 8

Thank you soooooo much for this video. This is the best UFO footage I've ever seen in my life and I've been down this rabbit hole since the 70s. I've been sitting here saucer eyed with my mouth hanging open. I can't believe this is happening and there is no way that most of us are ready for anything like this. My own city is there and I've heard nothing about it here. I'm in shock.

electric_blue68

(18,520 posts)
132. Wow on the plasma like one from Mexico, the dark sphere with knobs? spotted from a plane in Thaiiland, and the close..
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 08:31 PM
Dec 8

multiple lights in Columbia, and the San Antonio, TX one.

EarthFirst

(3,186 posts)
93. I personally find it hard to believe that FBI/NSA/DoD do not know the origin...
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 06:59 AM
Dec 8

Whether domestic; recreational/miltary; foreign (espionage) etc.

I won’t speculate further than that; however it’s hard to believe that nothing is known…

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
94. I don't think "authorities" know any more than we do about what they are
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 07:07 AM
Dec 8

They may have better looks at these, from some satellite or something, but that's it.

Shit, I need a Xanax and only have a few. This is freaking me out.

Amishman

(5,831 posts)
160. Given what we have seen of the threat of drones in Ukraine, I think state police need to be equipped accordingly
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 01:30 PM
Wednesday

Ukraine has proven the threatening ability of both home made and modified commercial drones.

I think state police as well as law enforcement in major cities should have equipment and plans in place to quickly disable rogue drones.

JR11

(64 posts)
95. Something I've been ruminating on these last 4 days
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 07:14 AM
Dec 8

What we're seeing is the roll out of mercenary drones brought to us by the industrial complex. Most likely Musk's.

I've made mention that with the advent of advancing science and tech, the apex wealth's interests have little use for the majority of us, and that we're considered 'the slack', as made evident in our failing infrastructure and overall system of governance. If you don't know that politicians have been front men for the ultra-rich as an ever-increasing trend, where have you been?



 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
97. When I posted this OP four days ago
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 07:20 AM
Dec 8

I said these are not UFOs. I was 100% wrong. Go watch the video in post #88. This has nothing to do with Musk or the rich or anything political. Something huge is happening but you need to watch to see for yourself.

JR11

(64 posts)
103. Well, my friend
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 07:41 AM
Dec 8

Discerning minds need have their say.

Right away (20 seconds in) I spotted the 'swamp gas' perceptual effect of ground directed light beams reflecting on cloud cover. I know, I know... it looks strange and otherworldly on the backdrop of the evening atmosphere. It could have been drone emitted light beams as well.

I'm not sure you understand that drone technologies have advanced beyond what we see and know about in the mainstream; and I remain fixed on the unannounced rollout of military industrial complex tech, and more than likely an orchestrated introduction coordinated by Musk as a show to demonstrate (in all honesty) the exclusivity of power and position. When the truth comes out, and the mystick fizzles, other publicly palatable excuses and reasonings will be proffered.

JR11

(64 posts)
105. Sun dogs and lens flare
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 07:56 AM
Dec 8

I've been on the internet since its inception, and I can't count the number of times I've witnessed people so certain that sun dogs were second suns, or that lens flare and glass pained reflections were niburu.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
116. Come on
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 04:44 PM
Dec 8

Did you watch that video? You think Musk is doing drone shows in countries all over the world? And what about the things that are round balls flying alongside of airliners and on the tarmac at Manchester airport? Are they a Musk invention? You think all of the LE, local and federal, along with the FAA, are just covering for Elon Musk in New Jersey? And, do tell, WTF kind of drone is this?



It's been a long time but I've seen a UFO, up close. Huge, right over the top of the car I was in. A friend, two years ago, witnessed bright orange orbs dancing around the sky in broad daylight. He was mesmerized by them until they shot of at impossible speed. There's some weird stuff out there and it's not drones.

JR11

(64 posts)
106. me too
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 07:57 AM
Dec 8

I know, I know... I'm right there with you. I'm of the belief that when they think we're ready, we'll know.

JR11

(64 posts)
108. also
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 08:02 AM
Dec 8

Some believe that certain technologies mankind have advanced in a short span were synaptically gifted by higher intelligence.

avebury

(11,078 posts)
164. I am of the idea that they probably view us more as a petrie dish to examine.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:27 AM
Friday

If they are advanced enough to be far superior to mankind when it comes to space travel I doubt that they would find us interesting enough to actually come down and introduce themselves to us. It would be far more likely that they would want to make sure that we are contained to our own planet and not advance to the point where humans could bring our problems out into the Universe to negatively impact them.

Jrsygrl96

(193 posts)
107. Yes!
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 07:58 AM
Dec 8

Residents complain about them on Facebook everyday! Our local police department tells us not to bother them and to call the FBI. We have a local airport in town (where JFK Jr took off from that fateful night) and wonder if the drones are some kind of surveillance for some reason. Drones are spotted around 10pm or later. It’s a bit unnerving.

Wonder Why

(4,687 posts)
112. Izzy, please stop! Sorry folks,it's my 5 y/o autistic granddaughter just fooling around
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 08:55 AM
Dec 8

with the '50 science kit I found for her in a thrift shop. I'm amazed at what the kids nowadays can do with those old toys.
The flying saucers were okay but building drones has gone to far.

Rebl2

(14,902 posts)
128. I am
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 06:37 PM
Dec 8

in a suburb of KCMO and we had three drones flying over our house, neighbors house, a field behind our house on Thursday night. It started about 6:00 pm—10:15pm. It was annoying and rather noisy. My husband went outside and watched them for about ten minutes. I am sure if we talked to the police about it they would not care at all. My husband read they have been over southern MO. as well.

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Kaleva

(38,454 posts)
135. Article about detecting false information
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 09:57 PM
Dec 8

"NJ drone sightings have residents watching the skies. Should you believe social media?"

"We expect what we read to be true. The American Psychological Association noted on its website in March that "detecting false information is difficult. When we encounter new information, we tend to focus on understanding it and deciding what to do next, rather than evaluating it for accuracy. It takes effort to compare new information with what we already know; when new information is false but plausible, we can learn it as fact."

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/2024/12/06/nj-drone-sightings-video-social-media-bigger-picture/76800935007/

AntiFascist

(12,952 posts)
140. "6 Drones Spotted Near Naval Weapons Station Earle"...
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 12:42 AM
Dec 9
https://newjersey.news12.com/middletown-mayor-6-drones-spotted-near-naval-weapons-station-earle

If they are moving nuclear weapons into this facility, then maybe the drones are being used to ensure there are no security threats, or to check out potential threats.

AntiFascist

(12,952 posts)
149. I don't think they're aliens...
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 02:12 PM
Dec 9

"alien" rumors are often spread to cover up military activity, ever since a Japanese "Fu-Go" balloon weapon was tested and crashed at Groom Lake in Nevada. You can thank Dr. Vannevar Bush (portrayed by Matthew Modine in Oppenheimer) who also invented the concept of the 'meme', long before the internet.

muriel_volestrangler

(102,666 posts)
168. That's a plane
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:41 PM
Friday

It has the standard red light at the port wingtip, and green on starboard. Plus you can see the outline of the plane. And hear the noise of the plane.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
155. Military claims they're not authorized to shoot down the "drones"
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 07:02 PM
Dec 10

This is bullshit!!! Out in the ocean the "drones" are tailing a Coast Guard ship but nobody can do anything about it?

?si=Ysousgiaf86b11fG

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Jersey Devil

(10,349 posts)
165. They are time travelers on vacation
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 09:36 AM
Friday

Sometime in the future, maybe millions of years from now, humans will have evolved to be so smart that they will have figured out how to travel in time. Just think how much fun it would be to be such an evolved human traveling back in time to see for yourself just how chaotic life was in the 21st century. It would be like traveling back to see the dinosaurs.

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