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drray23

(8,003 posts)
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 06:58 PM Dec 4

I feel that at the rate its going we are not winning again

Unless we seriously reform the party. Our values and policy platform are good. The execution however is really poor. I wish our politicians would have the same fighting spirit as the right wingers do.

Whenever one of them is in trouble they close rank and don't take shots at each other.

We democrats can't seem to stick to the script. The latest episode criticizing president Biden for pardoning his son is shameful.

Abandon the stupid high road and fight for the values you claim to hold. Many people i have spoken to have told me they don't vote for democrats because they never fight for them.

As a result they end up being bamboozled by the Republicans who have horrible policies but project strength. It's especially true for those who don't follow politics closely.









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I feel that at the rate its going we are not winning again (Original Post) drray23 Dec 4 OP
Any and All Dems berating Joe for pardoning Hunter deserve shame! Clouds Passing Dec 4 #1
I have a list. I'm quite done. onecaliberal Dec 4 #2
I'd like to see your list Clouds Passing Dec 4 #4
The elected ones. onecaliberal Dec 4 #6
That's actually quite a small fraction of elected Democrats, but the media loves "Dems in disarray" headlines. groundloop Dec 4 #7
That "small" list of people is ALL the media is talking about so you keep telling yourself that: onecaliberal Dec 4 #11
Thank you Clouds Passing Dec 4 #8
This but it also needs to translate into action newdeal2 Dec 4 #3
Dems are a big tent party, many diverse issues bucolic_frolic Dec 4 #5
Very true. Also, Democrats don't blow their own horn nearly enough. groundloop Dec 4 #10
We will ForgedCrank Dec 4 #9

onecaliberal

(36,318 posts)
6. The elected ones.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 07:42 PM
Dec 4

Senator Michael Bennett of Colorado

Senator Gary Peters of Michigan

Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia

Representative Greg Stanton of Arizona

Representative Jason Crow of Colorado

Representative Greg Landsman of Ohio

Representative Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington

Colorado Governor Jared Polis

groundloop

(12,386 posts)
7. That's actually quite a small fraction of elected Democrats, but the media loves "Dems in disarray" headlines.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 07:46 PM
Dec 4

onecaliberal

(36,318 posts)
11. That "small" list of people is ALL the media is talking about so you keep telling yourself that:
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 08:00 PM
Dec 4

newdeal2

(1,135 posts)
3. This but it also needs to translate into action
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 07:07 PM
Dec 4

They need to get meaningful legislation passed or executive action ASAP. Voters want results and a good story.

bucolic_frolic

(47,586 posts)
5. Dems are a big tent party, many diverse issues
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 07:13 PM
Dec 4

Not everyone agrees with every issue, and some issues are unpopular with independents and alien to even moderate Republicans. But if we lead with unpopular issues it doesn't help us at all.

Republicans have quite an advantage because all their issues have one issue at its base: money. Money for them.

Until we elevate justice, equity into one big overriding theme, we won't match Republican enthusiasm.

groundloop

(12,386 posts)
10. Very true. Also, Democrats don't blow their own horn nearly enough.
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 07:51 PM
Dec 4

tRUMP gets plenty of news coverage taking credit for everything under the sun. Shameless GQP congress critters go on TV tooting their own horn for federal programs which they voted against (and the clueless masses buy it).

Democrats seem to not take credit for getting things done nearly as much, partly, I believe, because they're too busy getting even more stuff accomplished. Democrats need to get better at grabbing publicity whenever and wherever it's available.

ForgedCrank

(2,381 posts)
9. We will
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 07:48 PM
Dec 4

once again be successful as the party adapts. Trump is a setback, not a failure.
It starts by more careful examination of policy adaptation, and that starts by admitting the mistakes so they can be corrected. This will happen. You may not see it spoken directly, but it will happen in the background over time.
This also includes abandoning the refusal to accept popular opinion that we disagree with. It includes dialing down the rhetoric. It includes many more things that appeal to more centrist voters. That is how we will win again. Those who are unwilling to compromise will be our hindrance.

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