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(142 posts)
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 09:52 AM Dec 5

In case there was any doubt, Bezos makes it official.

Jeff Bezos goes MAGA as Amazon billionaire gushes over 'calmer, more confident' president-elect and pledges to 'help him' in second term
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14160141/Jeff-Bezos-MAGA-Amazon-gushes-Trump.html

Jeff Bezos said he was 'optimistic' about President-elect Donald Trump's second term on Wednesday and even plans to 'help him' achieve their shared goals.

The Amazon founder was often seen as antagonistic toward Trump during his first go around in the White House.

However, Bezos expressed some excitement about potential regulatory cutbacks in the coming years.

'I'm actually very optimistic this time around,' Bezos said on stage during a wide-ranging interview at a conference in New York.

'He seems to have a lot of energy around reducing regulation. If I can help do that, I´m going to help him.'

'We do have too many regulations in this country,' Bezos added.

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In case there was any doubt, Bezos makes it official. (Original Post) 4th Dec 5 OP
Fuck Bezos. marble falls Dec 5 #1
We've already saved $700 from my Amazon protest strike, which started mid November. Baitball Blogger Dec 5 #3
It's too easy to use. We live in a small town, getting a book here without some sort of mail order is impossible ... marble falls Dec 5 #20
I love MaineBlueBear Dec 5 #24
Abebooks is owned by Amazon Amanita Pantherina Dec 5 #58
Abebooks or Alibris Geechie Dec 5 #30
Also thrift books which buys from local second hand stores like Goodwill. kimbutgar Dec 5 #33
Also Ebay people Dec 5 #52
So you saved $700 since mid-November by shopping locally? totodeinhere Dec 5 #49
I'm on a monthly budget. Baitball Blogger Dec 5 #51
I found out a long time ago that I should not assume that any particular item I see on totodeinhere Dec 5 #53
THIS, just simply this NotHardly Dec 5 #28
Our billionaire overlords are thrilled with Trump. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #2
And people wonder why we're so desensitized when one of them gets gunned down in the street. Baitball Blogger Dec 5 #5
People with empathy can find satisfaction when evil is defeated. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #10
There's the moral of this story. Baitball Blogger Dec 5 #17
these guys are sick MadameButterfly Dec 5 #11
Yes they are addicted to money and power. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #12
MacKenzie Scott, Evil Lord Bezos' ex wife may irisblue Dec 5 #39
But is she doing anything to secure our democracy? Irish_Dem Dec 5 #41
exactly my thought MadameButterfly Dec 5 #61
"I don't know if there are any good billionaires who can make a difference." I think JB Pritzker is one who can. ancianita Dec 5 #43
What are they doing to secure our democracy? Irish_Dem Dec 5 #44
Realize that what they do isn't always updated as news, and of course, these events might not be enough ancianita Dec 5 #54
Sarcastic insults don't make me inclined to read a comment. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #55
You interpret sarcasm? I'm simply trying to answer the question you pose. ancianita Dec 5 #56
And they have been working for these goals for years with their "think tanks," corporate money into Botany Dec 5 #16
Can someone correct me on Amazon? kansasobama Dec 5 #4
AMazon is owned by Bezos MadameButterfly Dec 5 #13
Bezos owns less than 20% of Amazon today. But it's so big that that is worth a lot. spooky3 Dec 5 #22
Who owns the rest of Amazon? MadameButterfly Dec 5 #59
It's publicly traded so there are lots of partial owners. nt spooky3 Dec 5 #63
Hmm. Time to sell? MadameButterfly Dec 5 #65
Though I'm guessing people will buy MadameButterfly Dec 5 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author spooky3 Dec 5 #62
This. Is. Not. New. This was always him. Notice how many billionaires Donnie picked? themaguffin Dec 5 #6
No more unions for Amazon workers. CrispyQ Dec 5 #7
Bezos is no longer involved with Amazon outside of being the largest shareholder Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 5 #32
It's time to dump amazon. STOP buying stuff that is not essential. onecaliberal Dec 5 #8
It has to be a national movement MadameButterfly Dec 5 #14
I cancelled prime, stopped shopping box stores. Really I just quit shopping except food of course. onecaliberal Dec 5 #15
It doesn't work that way GenThePerservering Dec 5 #42
Amazon was once small MadameButterfly Dec 5 #60
Earth to Jeff Bezos...We have REGULATIONS in this country BECAUSE... ProudMNDemocrat Dec 5 #9
They don't like regulations that check their power to do whatever they want but MadameButterfly Dec 5 #64
We need to make a list of all MAGA companies kansasobama Dec 5 #18
This is confusing, so does he have nothing to do with Amazon now? kansasobama Dec 5 #21
As long as every tax perk you rich folk get is also denied. travelingthrulife Dec 5 #19
Eat the rich. usonian Dec 5 #23
"To Serve Man" SilasSouleII Dec 5 #31
He wants Amazon to get sweet cloud contracts with Defense and Intelligence agencies IronLionZion Dec 5 #25
FUCK BEZOS buzzycrumbhunger Dec 5 #26
Trump is calmer? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! Initech Dec 5 #27
Ha! bagimin Dec 5 #29
When do they start getting their own farms? louis-t Dec 5 #34
Actually, Jeff, there aren't enough regulations in this country. patphil Dec 5 #35
Amazon workers are trying to unionize. Bezos wants to stop them. yardwork Dec 5 #36
I'm trying to do without Amazon, Linda ladeewolf Dec 5 #37
'We do have too many regulations in this country,' Bezos added. edbermac Dec 5 #38
Is confusing physics with regulations a new phenomenon... Hugin Dec 5 #46
MONEY GRUBBER SAYS WHAT? Xoan Dec 5 #40
scumbag prodigitalson Dec 5 #45
Bozos tried to buy the Seattle city council GenThePerservering Dec 5 #47
Jeff Bezos, Eloon Musk and Shitler walk into a bar. They are served unregulated tainted alcohol. OMGWTF Dec 5 #48
Of course he is happy with Trump. totodeinhere Dec 5 #50
Scumbag traitor Blue_Tires Dec 5 #57

Baitball Blogger

(48,847 posts)
3. We've already saved $700 from my Amazon protest strike, which started mid November.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 09:58 AM
Dec 5

I hadn't realized how many things I've purchased on a regular basis from Amazon, that were just as easy to pick up locally.

marble falls

(62,785 posts)
20. It's too easy to use. We live in a small town, getting a book here without some sort of mail order is impossible ...
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:24 AM
Dec 5

Last edited Thu Dec 5, 2024, 02:55 PM - Edit history (1)

... unless you want a Bible or religious fluff.

I do try to buy used books and a lot of them come from Goodwill stores on Amazon.

 
58. Abebooks is owned by Amazon
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 08:41 PM
Dec 5

When you scroll to the bottom of the Amazon website you see all the properties. Zappos, Whole Foods, Abebooks, Shopbop etc

Libby is okay, but Kanopy which you also get with your library card is amazing.

Geechie

(979 posts)
30. Abebooks or Alibris
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:45 AM
Dec 5

Those are my go-to’s for used books online. Also check out Apps like Libby and Kanopy, which provide e-books and audiobooks for free (borrowing) if you have a library card!

kimbutgar

(23,888 posts)
33. Also thrift books which buys from local second hand stores like Goodwill.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:55 AM
Dec 5

I haven’t brought anything from Amazon since Election Day. been buying from eBay and local stores.

Baitball Blogger

(48,847 posts)
51. I'm on a monthly budget.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:53 PM
Dec 5

Most of my high ticket items were front-loaded in the month of November. But there are certain things that I purchase from Amazon on a regular basis, that I could find elsewhere. Things like a special kind of Ramen noodle, or vitamins, or mop replacements and other cleaning items. This is also near Christmas time and I'm finding similar or same choices nearby, many of the items that I haven't purchased yet..

But probably the biggest expensive saver, is talking myself out of purchasing gadgets. I really don't need bells and whistles. Mostly I purchase electronics to satisfy my curiosity. Helps me stay connected with what is going on with the young-uns.

totodeinhere

(13,452 posts)
53. I found out a long time ago that I should not assume that any particular item I see on
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:56 PM
Dec 5

Amazon is necessarily the cheapest. In fact often Amazon is way more expensive. It helps to shop around.

Irish_Dem

(61,924 posts)
2. Our billionaire overlords are thrilled with Trump.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 09:55 AM
Dec 5

No taxes, no regulation, no guard rails.

It is a dream come true for the greedy, corrupt wealthy who can now pillage and loot
with no restraints.

Baitball Blogger

(48,847 posts)
5. And people wonder why we're so desensitized when one of them gets gunned down in the street.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:00 AM
Dec 5

I bet you the Magas who are shocked, SHOCKED, by our lack of empathy, are the same ones who thought Alex Jones was right about Sandy Hook.

Irish_Dem

(61,924 posts)
10. People with empathy can find satisfaction when evil is defeated.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:04 AM
Dec 5

Or justice is served.

We know there is no rule of law when it comes to wealthy white males.
Who commit crimes or do wrong.

The fact that this man caused the death and suffering of many people
and all of it was legal does not sit right with many.

So now we are left with only street justice.
Which is a sad commentary on our society but completely understandable.

Baitball Blogger

(48,847 posts)
17. There's the moral of this story.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:21 AM
Dec 5

If society fails to apply its laws to stop the greedy from spreading misery on the populace, the most aggrieved among them will find a way to do it for society.

MadameButterfly

(2,273 posts)
11. these guys are sick
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:04 AM
Dec 5

They have more money than they can ever spend and are looking for ways to make people suffer so they can have more. They can't conceive of the joy of using their money to make people's lives better. Notice these guys don't stay married. Love is not a priority.

Giving up Amazon will be hard for me, but necessary. I wish we could just run it out of business. Any chance of getting half the country to stop using it? Any replacement in the works, like Blue Sky for Twitter? Seriously, a billionaire out there to run on same business model to appeal to voters who don't want to support Nazis?

Irish_Dem

(61,924 posts)
12. Yes they are addicted to money and power.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:07 AM
Dec 5

And like with all addicts no amount of their substance of choice is ever enough.

They have more wealth than they can spend in a lifetime or in many generations.

But no amount of money will fill the deep holes in their souls.

They are profoundly disturbed but unfortunately our society idolizes them.

I don't know if there are any good billionaires who can make a difference.

irisblue

(34,560 posts)
39. MacKenzie Scott, Evil Lord Bezos' ex wife may
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:18 PM
Dec 5

From her wiki page..."In May 2019, Scott signed the Giving Pledge, a charitable-giving campaign in which she undertook to give away most of her wealth to charity over her lifetime or in her will. Despite its name, the pledge is not legally binding.[33]

In a July 2020 Medium post,[34] Scott announced that she had donated $1.7 billion to 116 non-profit organizations, with a focus on racial equality, LGBTQ+ equality, democracy, and climate change.[35] Her gifts to HBCUs, Hispanic-serving institutions, tribal colleges and universities, and other colleges surpass $800 million.[36][37] In December 2020, less than six months later, Scott stated that she had donated a further $4.15 billion in the previous four months to 384 organizations, with a focus on providing support to people affected by the economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic and addressing long-term systemic inequities.[38] She said that after July, she wanted her advisory team to give her wealth away faster as the United States struggled with the unprecedented impact of COVID-19 while billionaires' wealth continued to climb. Her team's focus was on "identifying organizations with strong leadership teams and results, with special attention to those operating in communities facing high projected food insecurity, high measures of racial inequity, high local poverty rates, and low access to philanthropic capital."[39] Scott's 2020 charitable giving totaled $5.8 billion, one of the largest annual distributions by a private individual to working charities.[40][11]

Scott announced another $2.7 billion in giving to 286 organizations in June 2021.[41] Forbes reported that Scott donated $8.5 billion across 780 organizations in one year (July 2020 to July 2021).[42] In June 2021, Scott and Melinda French Gates launched the Equality Can't Wait Challenge, a contest to promote gender equality[43] and expanding women's power and influence in the United States by 2030.[44] The four winners received $10 million each, and an additional $8 million was split between the two finalists.[43] In February 2022, nine organizations announced gifts from Scott totaling $264.5 million.[45] The Association for Women's Rights in Development received a $15 million donation.[46] On March 23, 2022, more gifts were announced, including $436 million to Habitat for Humanity[47] and $275 million to Planned Parenthood.[48][49] In May 2022, the Big Brothers, Big Sisters foundation reported a $122.6 million donation from Scott.[50] Scott has also made donations to organizations in Kenya, India, Brazil, Micronesia, and Latin America.[51] In April 2022, The New York Times reported that Scott's donations since 2019 have exceeded $12 billion.[15] In September 2022, Scott donated two of her Beverly Hills homes, worth a combined $55 million, to the California Community Foundation (CCF), which provides grants to mission-based nonprofits in Los Angeles. The organization intended to sell both homes and use 90% of the earnings to fund affordable housing initiatives and direct the other 10% to an immigrant integration program.[52] In October 2022, Scott donated $84.5 million to Girl Scouts of the USA and its 29 local councils. This was the largest donation from an individual in the organization’s history.[53] As of November 2022, Scott had donated almost $14 billion to 1500 organizations.[14]


More there

Irish_Dem

(61,924 posts)
41. But is she doing anything to secure our democracy?
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:21 PM
Dec 5

The democracy that made her wealth possible in the first place?

MadameButterfly

(2,273 posts)
61. exactly my thought
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 09:12 PM
Dec 5

Without democracy she is arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Without some ethical LW people owning media--from radio to local to TV stations like MSNBC--there will be no democracy. Maybe buy the Washington Post and return it to it's old self? If Bezos doesn't have Machiavallian schemes for it.

I don't mean to denigrate how impressive her giving has been, and It wasn't clear until this year how vulnerable democracy has become.
But man, everything she is supporting depends on this.
Could she lend us a hand? Pleeeeeeze?

ancianita

(39,206 posts)
43. "I don't know if there are any good billionaires who can make a difference." I think JB Pritzker is one who can.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:25 PM
Dec 5

Mike Bloomberg is another. They both understand the governmental (of, by and for The People) necessity of regulating business and finance and mammon in general.

ancianita

(39,206 posts)
54. Realize that what they do isn't always updated as news, and of course, these events might not be enough
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 01:12 PM
Dec 5

to convince you. I can come up with more info, but on the day-to-day, so can you, if you care to make the effort.

In-house party struggles are what have caused voters to lost trust in this party. And us to lose trust with each other and some of our leaders, for that matter.

But if Democrats want to strengthen the fight for democracy, Democrats have to ally with each other at all income levels, and not just ego/doubt based "in" or "out" categories, and no tired, outworn purity tests.

We on DU should start from this premise: Democrats at all socioeconomic levels are the only party that stands as a bulwark for democracy.

Biden seems to trust Bloomberg.




JB Pritzker co-chairs the 'Governors Safeguarding Democracy' coalition

Start 00:07


Irish_Dem

(61,924 posts)
55. Sarcastic insults don't make me inclined to read a comment.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 01:16 PM
Dec 5

Might be better not to respond to comments you don't like or better yet
provide information you want people to read in a gracious manner.

ancianita

(39,206 posts)
56. You interpret sarcasm? I'm simply trying to answer the question you pose.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 01:23 PM
Dec 5

What is a gracious manner -- give a word or phrase that would be rewritten in a gracious manner.

If you want to ignore my effort on the basis of inferred sarcasm and a "gracious manner" standard, there's nothing I can really say about that; it's your opinion.

I'm a Democrat. My understanding is that in the Democratic Party, "Working with" works both ways.

Botany

(72,912 posts)
16. And they have been working for these goals for years with their "think tanks," corporate money into
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:18 AM
Dec 5

Last edited Thu Dec 5, 2024, 03:30 PM - Edit history (2)

colleges (both traditional and right wing ones like Hillsdale), funding of right wing hate talk radio/tv/social media, disinformation campaigns that can make sentient human beings deny reality, allowing Russia to become a player in our democracy,and bringing in billions from all kinds of places such as the fossil fuel industries. All the time helping out right wing Christo Fascist Evangelicals and right wing web sites which are just the mouth pieces for Russian propaganda (storm 1516 ) and disinformation like how men and manhood is under attack.

Meanwhile salt water is working its way north up the Mississippi, the Delaware River has salt
water almost up to Philadelphia, and hundreds of acres of the cedar forests in New Jersey are
dying from the salinity of encroaching sea water. Funny thing when you melt our polar ice caps
and glaciers the water has to go somewhere and Trump has promised to stop any climate change
actions and green energy for which the fossil fuel industries will pay him billions.

kansasobama

(1,572 posts)
4. Can someone correct me on Amazon?
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:00 AM
Dec 5

I understand Amazon is not under Bezos. Is the current Amazon under MAGA? If so, I have to think of cancelling Amazon Prime.

MadameButterfly

(2,273 posts)
13. AMazon is owned by Bezos
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:09 AM
Dec 5

Am I missing something here? MAGA doesn't run Amazon, they are a cult. But if Bezos is going MAGA, same thing.

Don't just think about it, cancel your Amazon Prime.
That's the low hanging fruit. Then we need to see about bankrupting Amazon by convincing half the country to boycott.


MadameButterfly

(2,273 posts)
66. Though I'm guessing people will buy
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 09:27 PM
Dec 5

like they did Tesla if they think Bezos is in with Trump

They people who think they can make enough money off the stock to make up for democracy

Response to spooky3 (Reply #22)

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(117,733 posts)
32. Bezos is no longer involved with Amazon outside of being the largest shareholder
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:55 AM
Dec 5

He's mostly involved with his space company, Blue Origin.

He lives in Florida now on Jupiter Island and is neighbors with Jarvanka.

MadameButterfly

(2,273 posts)
14. It has to be a national movement
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:13 AM
Dec 5

People won't sacrifice unless they think it will make a difference. It needs to be a big enough difference to affect him. He needs to lose money, not make money on the Trump endorsement.

If something you want to buy is essential, you can buy it somewhere else.

We need to call on some Billionare on the left to step up and offer an alternative to Amazon, like Blue Sky has done for Twitter. That's the only real way we'll tank Amazon. We need to vote with our dollars and it needs to be huge.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
15. I cancelled prime, stopped shopping box stores. Really I just quit shopping except food of course.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:17 AM
Dec 5

Grocery prices are rising sharply.

GenThePerservering

(2,675 posts)
42. It doesn't work that way
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:23 PM
Dec 5

One doesn't '"step in" and start a competitor to Amazon with world-wide reach, supplier chains, logistics and footprint.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,319 posts)
9. Earth to Jeff Bezos...We have REGULATIONS in this country BECAUSE...
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:03 AM
Dec 5

1. People like you NEED to pay taxes on immense wealth to help the country succeed.
2. People like clean air to breathe.
3. Safe drugs and food to consume.
4. Safe skies in which to travel.
5. Security at airports and other ports of travel.
6. Clean environments free of pollution.
7. National Security against threats from countries that would do us harm.
8. Funded schools.
9. Retirement savings.
10. Ethical Business practices.
11. Laws to abide by.
12. Medical Insurance.

And much more!

So Jeff! Time to go back to class and read up on how Government works and why there are REGULATIONS in place.

MadameButterfly

(2,273 posts)
64. They don't like regulations that check their power to do whatever they want but
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 09:24 PM
Dec 5

they want the food they eat not to poison them. They don't remember that food wasn't always safe, before regulations.

Like when Teddy Roosevelt had a bunch of meat-packing moguls for dinner where his spies revealed the diseases and filth they had found in meat processed in their plants--just as he served them all steak. Which suddenly they didn't want to eat.

Roosevelt's inspections were inspired by Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle." Oh, Sinclair was a Socialist.

Trumpers don't know history and take it for granted that their food is safe.

kansasobama

(1,572 posts)
21. This is confusing, so does he have nothing to do with Amazon now?
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:24 AM
Dec 5

Does Jeff Bezos own Amazon now?
What companies does Jeff Bezos own? Bezos stepped down as CEO of Amazon to become executive chairman in 2021, and he owns less than 10% of the company. After divorcing his wife MacKenzie of 25 years in 2019, Bezos transferred a quarter of his then-16% Amazon stake to her, Forbes reported.6 days ago

travelingthrulife

(1,303 posts)
19. As long as every tax perk you rich folk get is also denied.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:24 AM
Dec 5

These are the real Cadillac Queens Reagan talked about. Mouths at the public teat all the time.

IronLionZion

(47,315 posts)
25. He wants Amazon to get sweet cloud contracts with Defense and Intelligence agencies
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:33 AM
Dec 5

and I'm sure Amazon warehouse and delivery workers are not feeling the jackbooted heels of regulations on their throats. That's Bezos' greed crushing their spirit.

buzzycrumbhunger

(943 posts)
26. FUCK BEZOS
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:39 AM
Dec 5

I’m on a couple daily book lists and the only thing I buy from Amazon are free books. I’d prefer to support the writers but it’s satisfying to earn Amazon itself absolutely NOTHING.

Initech

(103,063 posts)
27. Trump is calmer? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:39 AM
Dec 5

Good one, Bozos. He's angrier and more pissed off than ever.

louis-t

(23,885 posts)
34. When do they start getting their own farms?
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:03 PM
Dec 5

Food suppliers for rich people only. Farmland surrounded by barbed wire. The rest of us get to eat poison.

patphil

(7,267 posts)
35. Actually, Jeff, there aren't enough regulations in this country.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:08 PM
Dec 5

The game is way far too tilted in favor of the ultra rich.
For instance, we need regulations on campaign contributions to keep people like you from using money to wedge themselves into government.
Elon Musk literally bought himself a "fake" government agency with his 120 million dollar (at least) contribution to the Trump campaign.
Citizens United may very well be the worst decision ever by our Supreme Court; even worse than the repeal of Roe/Wade.
It opened the door to corruption in government on a grand scale, and lead to the demise of the Republican Party as a legitimate standard bearer of Conservative politics.
Without it, Trump may never have gotten a chance to become President, and not have been able to stack the SC with judges who would destroy Roe/Wade.
The rich saw his potential as a destroyer of the Regulatory Agencies, and as a major gift giver in the form or massive tax breaks, so they helped him get in for their own selfish purposes.
Unfortunately for them, they could find themselves as his servants, just like the Oligarchs in Russia.
Hint to people like Bezos, Musk, and Zuckerman: Make sure none of your office windows can be opened, and they are super resistant to breakage. You never know when you could fall through one if Trump takes the country to the dark places he wants it to go to.

yardwork

(65,101 posts)
36. Amazon workers are trying to unionize. Bezos wants to stop them.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:09 PM
Dec 5

Billionaire oligarchs running amok.

Linda ladeewolf

(563 posts)
37. I'm trying to do without Amazon,
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:10 PM
Dec 5

Sometimes it’s hard. I don’t use prime or any of the accelerated programs for delivery, but som items are difficult to buy locally. I’ve been using eBay or Etsy for a lot of things I used to buy on Amazon. I don’t know if that’s any better. Right now I’m trying to set up a grow area in my living room, with grow lights for spouts and tomatoes and greens and starting seeds next spring.

I’m going to put up a chicken house and a yard with garden beds next to it. I’m also going to clear some space down in my woods for growing some cotton. I’ve bought colored cotton seeds and have wanted to learn spin cotton for years, wool is easy, silk a little harder, but cotton has such short fibers, it’s a whole other thing. I got green, brown and reddish seeds for cotton. No dyes needed, just a lot of time and seed saving. In my own way I’m preparing for a more difficult time.

edbermac

(16,135 posts)
38. 'We do have too many regulations in this country,' Bezos added.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:14 PM
Dec 5

FYI Jeff: the guy that built the Titan submersible said the same thing.

Hugin

(35,153 posts)
46. Is confusing physics with regulations a new phenomenon...
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:29 PM
Dec 5

or is it simply making the news more lately?

OMGWTF

(4,515 posts)
48. Jeff Bezos, Eloon Musk and Shitler walk into a bar. They are served unregulated tainted alcohol.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:32 PM
Dec 5

They all die. The end.

totodeinhere

(13,452 posts)
50. Of course he is happy with Trump.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:45 PM
Dec 5

He envisions more tax cuts for the rich and less corporate regulation. But obviously those same policies are bad for the average citizen who is not a billionaire.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
57. Scumbag traitor
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 01:59 PM
Dec 5

I can't trust anybody these days... Everybody is getting in line to kiss his ass...

Is there any real opposition to the angry orange idiot these days? Or has everyone decided to "lie back and try to enjoy it" like the proverbial rape victim?

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