The police are looking for the wrong murderer

[Mr.WeRP]

They should be rounding up all the CEOs and executives of companies that deny medical claims causing millions of people to die. Approximately 45 thousand people a year die because of lack of access to healthcare. After 20 years, that is millions.

[RockRaven]

1. Who do the police "protect & serve"? Well, you got the answer right there...

[Dave says]

9. From a DA Levy poem from the sixties

Suburban Monastery Death Poem
…
Really
the police try to protect
the banks - and everything else
is secondary

[Silent Type]

2. Better go after CMS/Medicare/Medicaid/Tricare too. They deny care also. But wait until Kennedy takes over.

[Mr.WeRP]

3. They don't make blood money from it though

If you can’t tell the difference, there is no help for you

[EdmondDantes_]

7. The difference is the amount of money

Because the people who run government medical payer systems absolutely get paid. Purity is hard.

[Mr.WeRP]

10. Purity is hard on both sides

[3Hotdogs]

22. I read that the overhead for Medicare is 3%.

Private insurance? 15%.

[Silent Type]

8. Still gets denied. Spin it how you like.

[Dave says]

12. There is quite the difference!

The organizations you mention do not deny anywhere near the percent of denials that the private insurers do.

(Of course, you need to carve out Medicare Advantage, which is a nightmare for the seriously sick.)

On edit: my replies are not going under the intended posts. Anyone else experiencing this?

[Silent Type]

13. Actually it's pretty close, especially when you realize of the 9.8 % of claims originally denied by private insurers,

83% are overturned as soon as doctor sends in additional info; many denials are we won’t approve 14 therapy visits but will approve 10 now and maybe more when you provide info on progress near end of 10 encounters; we will not pay for the expensive advertised drugs until you have tried cheaper drugs that are effective 99% of time or your doc tells us why you are special; doctors do cheat and they are less likely to go to jail than under Medicare/Medicaid so the fudge even more; etc.

[Dave says]

14. Uh huh

[choie]

27. Do they deny claims for profit?

No, they don’t. They do it because they’re constricted by the parameters set by congress and the cms administrator in order to save what they will call tax payer money. Not to enrich shareholders and CEOs. I don’t know where you get the idea that these systems are comparable.

[Silent Type]

28. They deny claims that don't meet governmental guidelines to keep from wasting money that could

go to other patients. And the providers involve darn sure cheat for profit.

[choie]

41. The majority of providers are not fraudsters.

As in ANY field, there are people who are thieves. I don't know what your beef with Medicare and Medicaid is, but it's misplaced compared with the disgusting grift and greed of for profit health insurance companies.

[NoRethugFriends]

34. Medicare is fine.

Medigap is fine because though it's private companies, what they have to pay for is set by the government.
It's the unregulated Medicare Advantage crap that sucks and denies care.
I've been on Medicare with a Medigap plan and have been denied or delayed nothing.

[Silent Type]

35. Good. Glad it works for you. I'm on traditional Medicare too but may be forced to take

MA at some point for premium savings and dental, etc., that Medicare does not cover.

Plus, I’m not for taking away what over half Medicare beneficiaries voluntarily choose as best for them.

[TheProle]

4. Are there warrants? Indictments?

Any due process?

Or just cops rounding up businessmen because a critical mass of people just decide that they are murderers/fascists?

You know, some deranged right winger could post online the exact same sentiment about the murder of an abortion doctor with just as much conviction as you have for your position.

In both cases, it makes me appreciate the constitution that much more.

[Farmer-Rick]

20. Just tax them to death

Then provide incentives for the self employed and co-ops.

[Skittles]

24. the "rule of law" isn't just trash to repukes these days

fucking disgusting

[Hellbound Hellhound]

5. He looks between 20 and 80. White male or light skinned ethnicity. Male, possibly female or nonbinary.

It's just impossible to tell, but if a decent person saw them on the street, no they didn't.

[smb]

16. I'd Be On The Lookout For Someone Who Looks Like Those Pics...

...except, gosh darn it, my vision plan doesn't cover that.

[Silent Type]

29. Unfortunately, the only way to get a vision plan is through private insurers. Original Medicare

will deny claims for refraction and glasses/contacts.

[Amanita Pantherina]

39. You can sit over here next me, Hellhound

[neverforget]

15. It's a tragedy when a person of wealth and power is killed like Thompson was, but a statistic when people

of no power are denied care.

[Omnipresent]

17. Now is not the time for any practical solutions...

The health care industry buys
influence, they own this country.

The rest of us just live here.

[PufPuf23]

18. Class action and antitrust lawsuits against medical insurance executives, investors and investment bankers

that conspire to defraud American citizens and to provide the most expensive and poorest healthcare in modern western nations.

The insurance executives get stock and stock options as well as inflated salaries. They are rewarded by denying needed and available health care. The conspiracies to defraud have been normalized and allowed by politicians essentially on the take.

This opinion (mine) does not imply that murder is a solution nor option.

[3Hotdogs]

23. Your solution is useless.

Keep in mind who runs the Supreme Court.

[PufPuf23]

25. Realize that the opinion is a dream of what should be.

The Democratic Party is not capable as a combined political force to get sane public health system on par with other western democracies.

Some need to keep the vision alive, the USA and World are not on a favorable trajectory for most humans and life on Earth.

Nothing I expect to see in a now dwindling lifetime.

Edit to add: Specifically, not calling the Democratic Party the "bad guys", the GOP and current USSC are the "bad guys".

After all, I have been a Democratic party member and voter for over 50 years and zero motive to change, just weary.

[Skittles]

26. the entire premise of Medicare "Advantage" is they profit the more they deny care

but over HALF of seniors are on those scams

[Silent Type]

30. If you've got a case where a patient died or was permanently injured from a denial, you'd have a good suit.

[Bettie]

19. Killing in the name of profit

is celebrated in our society. That's 45 million dead peasants that they don't have to cover anymore....

[ColinC]

21. No. Because that kind of murder is legal.

[Bluethroughu]

31. Time for prison for CORPORATE PERSONHOOD.

Nobody should be able to buy a "get out of jail free card", with a civil judgement.
If it means throwing the c-suites and board members in prison, then each person gets a trial for the same criminal counts, if they knew a crime was committed, and did nothing.

If SCOTUS DOES NOT WANT TO GIVE EQUAL JUSTICE TO CORPS, THEN THEY ARE NOT PERSONS.

[bluboid]

32. whoa... brilliant! thank you!

[DENVERPOPS]

33. We mustn't forget the biggest murderer of all

Trump and his CABAL during the Covid crisis................

[MadMike47]

36. I'm not surprised this happened.

I'm only surprised that it hasn't happened before now.

[Klarkashton]

37. I pray for that guy. Fuck this shit.

[BWdem4life]

38. Some murders are legal

Usually murders of the poor by the rich

[Patton French]

40. They shouldn't be looking for the killer? NT