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Fox News is reporting that Republicans are considering cutting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. (Original Post) Celerity Dec 6 OP
No surprise yankee87 Dec 6 #1
Any lawmaker who votes yes on this BonnieJW Dec 6 #41
Roe yankee87 Dec 6 #44
These folks don't give a fuck about Roe. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 6 #51
Reason about Roe yankee87 Dec 7 #57
Unless they only cut the future benefits of younger people. Mariana Dec 7 #58
Remember its a cult mucifer Dec 6 #2
Stunning? Really? ananda Dec 6 #3
Stunning to me that FOX is reporting Grown2Hate Dec 7 #53
GOP lusting for it far before Trump. Passages Dec 6 #4
What did folks think was going to happen? DJ Synikus Makisimus Dec 6 #5
GOP to plebs: Die, and die quickly. sakabatou Dec 6 #6
And don't get any smart ideas about doing anything! durablend Dec 6 #12
So, let's get this straight. PSPS Dec 6 #7
Post removed Post removed Dec 6 #13
And if someone dies before dweller Dec 6 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Kingofalldems Dec 6 #25
So Social Security becomes a piggy bank? Raven123 Dec 6 #26
A piggy bank for the billionaires vapor2 Dec 6 #34
got a link on that? NJCher Dec 6 #28
What were they claiming? TIA Celerity Dec 7 #60
There are some very red counties ... VMA131Marine Dec 6 #49
Indeed it is Rebl2 Dec 7 #63
Anyone recall the GW Bush years? The "Ownership Society"? keep_left Dec 6 #8
And 3auld6phart Dec 6 #10
Well, 50% of those who voted, anyway. Which makes it more like... keep_left Dec 6 #40
Been their wet dream for years.... spanone Dec 6 #9
They've been saying that for decades, but it's still a threat. Between those 3 programs there Silent Type Dec 6 #11
News flash, Harris campaign wasn't lying Johonny Dec 6 #15
"considering" does not equate to "doing".... anciano Dec 6 #16
Yes and yes Dave says Dec 6 #20
I didn't think Roe would be gone newdeal2 Dec 6 #22
Have heard/read on several sources that VA medical care is under scrutiny, too. nt allegorical oracle Dec 6 #17
The republicans have been toting cutting SS for years. republianmushroom Dec 6 #18
This clip is from FOX Business news. Has the other FOX news channel... IcyPeas Dec 6 #19
Well, MY jaw is right under my upper teeth where it should be, and nowhere near the floor. JHB Dec 6 #21
I guess none of them have an elderly parent or two PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 6 #23
Going Rebl2 Dec 6 #24
Doesn't matter. FoxNewsSucks Dec 6 #29
A lot of them are on Social Security Disability though ... VMA131Marine Dec 6 #50
They aren't "considering it." barbaraann Dec 6 #27
We will see. Guess I'll be working through the this administration, after-all. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 6 #30
Yes, but PXR-5 Dec 6 #31
Military, military, military. Sneederbunk Dec 6 #32
Stupid motherfucking republicans VOTED FOR THIS SHIT Blue Owl Dec 6 #33
100% that! oasis Dec 6 #37
But what about the thousands of times he said this Beachnutt Dec 6 #35
ALL ROBBER BARONS vapor2 Dec 6 #36
Well isn't what America voted for............... Lovie777 Dec 6 #38
So the "news" is that FOX is REPORTING on a well GOP known plan Raven123 Dec 6 #39
I guess it's going to depend on how bad they make these cuts. Liberal In Texas Dec 6 #42
Had an appointment Traildogbob Dec 6 #43
What do you suppose LPBBEAR Dec 6 #45
With a 217-215 House? roamer65 Dec 6 #46
But what about eggs??? And Harris didn't talk about policy? JanMichael Dec 6 #47
Jack Valentino News is reporting that Jack Valentino is considering Jack Valentino Dec 6 #48
The only way that I will believe that story is true, will be Dan Dec 6 #52
Republicans are not logical. They won't think about all those guns, Jack Valentino Dec 7 #56
GOP Greed Over People Blue Dotty Dec 7 #54
Post removed Post removed Dec 7 #55
They want to kill us off and replace us with indoctrinated ignorant idiots who will work nearly for free. lark Dec 7 #59
2019 Alan Grayson Comment FrankTC Dec 7 #61
The GOP should think about Brian Thompson IzzaNuDay Dec 7 #62
This was put out there as a distraction Buckeyeblue Dec 7 #64

yankee87

(2,429 posts)
1. No surprise
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 06:24 PM
Dec 6

This is happening and poor white people will be decimated, but at least a minority will be hurt.
I don’t know any answer, but I’m scared

BonnieJW

(2,633 posts)
41. Any lawmaker who votes yes on this
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:22 PM
Dec 6

can say goodbye to reelection. No one from 60 and up will vote for them.

yankee87

(2,429 posts)
44. Roe
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:36 PM
Dec 6

I wish I could believe that, but after the reversal of Roe, and the rapist getting elected again, makes me a little nervous.

I can’t drive, walk without a walker, and am constantly on pain medication, I can never work again. Over forty years working, and this is such bullshit.

OAITW r.2.0

(28,896 posts)
51. These folks don't give a fuck about Roe.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 11:41 PM
Dec 6

But SS, Medicare and Medicaid cuts....that is reality.

yankee87

(2,429 posts)
57. Reason about Roe
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 12:37 AM
Dec 7

The reason I bought up roe is because if people voted for the rapist even after women lost bodily autonomy, I don’t know how much people will take and still vote for their abusers.

Grown2Hate

(2,168 posts)
53. Stunning to me that FOX is reporting
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 12:16 AM
Dec 7

that the GOP is considering it. You'd think they'd want to keep the lie going. Unless they just know it's too late.

5. What did folks think was going to happen?
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 06:29 PM
Dec 6

This is hardly surprising. Eliminating social programs has been baked into the GOP agenda since they recoiled in horror at the New Deal and immediately began to undermine it (with significant help from many people who've called themselves Democrats). Per GOP ideology, only the wealthy and privileged should benefit from government. Now for the $64 million question: what is the Democratic Party's ideology? Might be time to clean that up. Or is it already too late?

durablend

(8,032 posts)
12. And don't get any smart ideas about doing anything!
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 07:21 PM
Dec 6

*wags finger*

"Remember, THE LEFT caused this!"

PSPS

(14,221 posts)
7. So, let's get this straight.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 06:33 PM
Dec 6

People spend their entire working lives contributing to their own Social Security. Then, the oligarchs through their on-the-pad proxies in congress, abscond with all of those contributions. I think they would be the next ones to be "Johnsoned."

Response to PSPS (Reply #7)

dweller

(25,269 posts)
14. And if someone dies before
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 07:42 PM
Dec 6

the amount is done , they give the $$ back ?
We both know that’s not how it works .


✌🏻

Response to Post removed (Reply #13)

VMA131Marine

(4,691 posts)
49. There are some very red counties ...
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 11:36 PM
Dec 6

In places like Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, etc. where significant fractions of the population live on Social Security Disability payments.

Cutting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid won’t just hurt retirees, it’s going after the income of part of Trump’s base.

Rebl2

(15,113 posts)
63. Indeed it is
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 10:44 AM
Dec 7

Apparently they didn’t believe he would do that, but here we are. They voted for him and now they will find out they voted against themselves regarding SS and Medicare and Medicaid.

keep_left

(2,583 posts)
8. Anyone recall the GW Bush years? The "Ownership Society"?
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 06:36 PM
Dec 6

I remember what Janeane Garofalo said on her old Air America show: "The Ownership Society--society where you're ruled by the owners!". Boom...mic drop. Can't really improve on that. They want it all, and now they're coming for your Social Security, your food stamps, disability payment, everything.

3auld6phart

(1,332 posts)
10. And
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 06:54 PM
Dec 6

That is what 50 percent of+- wanted, Your wish is being arranged by the Repuke party and their owners. Well done idiots. I have no empathy for you.

keep_left

(2,583 posts)
40. Well, 50% of those who voted, anyway. Which makes it more like...
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:22 PM
Dec 6

...25-30% of the population, since only about half ever shows up to vote. But you're nonetheless correct--people are voting for their own slavery. Unfortunately, we all have to live with it.

Silent Type

(7,569 posts)
11. They've been saying that for decades, but it's still a threat. Between those 3 programs there
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 07:08 PM
Dec 6

are probably 50+ million or so GOPers. Can’t see them pissing all them off. If they do, we’ll do well in midterms.

anciano

(1,632 posts)
16. "considering" does not equate to "doing"....
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 07:58 PM
Dec 6

and doing that would be political suicide for the Repub party, unless of course they also do away with any future elections at the same time.

newdeal2

(1,202 posts)
22. I didn't think Roe would be gone
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 08:33 PM
Dec 6

But here we are. And he won a second term even!

Believe what they say - they’ve been gunning for these unpopular changes for decades.

republianmushroom

(18,394 posts)
18. The republicans have been toting cutting SS for years.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 08:03 PM
Dec 6

It has been one of their talking point for some time.

IcyPeas

(22,930 posts)
19. This clip is from FOX Business news. Has the other FOX news channel...
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 08:14 PM
Dec 6

reported on this story? That would surprise me.

Wake up magats.... they're comin' for you too.

JHB

(37,497 posts)
21. Well, MY jaw is right under my upper teeth where it should be, and nowhere near the floor.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 08:32 PM
Dec 6

Because this has only been a Conservative Movement goal for the last, oh, 60-70 years (more if you count time without that label). Now they finally have the tools (and the big orange tool) to pull it off.

Rebl2

(15,113 posts)
24. Going
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 08:55 PM
Dec 6

to be a lot of angry maga people that are on SS if they cut it and Medicare. Can remember a time when republican voters said don’t you dare touch my social security or Medicare.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,866 posts)
29. Doesn't matter.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:01 PM
Dec 6

I remember a very recent time when MF45 told his crowds to "just vote one more time and we'll fix everything and you'll never have to vote again"

They're free to steal w/o caring what any of us think.

PXR-5

(540 posts)
31. Yes, but
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:06 PM
Dec 6

as Tr*mp says, "there will be no inflation" and of course eggs will be practically free 😉

Blue Owl

(55,008 posts)
33. Stupid motherfucking republicans VOTED FOR THIS SHIT
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:10 PM
Dec 6

Fuck them all and the make-up wearing, diaper-filling piece of shit they voted for

Liberal In Texas

(14,735 posts)
42. I guess it's going to depend on how bad they make these cuts.
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:28 PM
Dec 6

One thing I fear is that they'll make everybody go on Advantage and kill traditional Medicare.

If we get our SS cut too badly we're going to be truly f'ed.

Traildogbob

(10,265 posts)
43. Had an appointment
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:28 PM
Dec 6

At the VA today for physical therapy. I always rage seeing trump car stickers outside.
As I sat at a table filling out my mileage report, a Vet, had to be 70’s, tattered and broken walked up to the other side to do his paperwork. Looks to be totally on SS, Medicare, Medicaid, VA disability. He was wearing what looked to be new, stiff camo “Veteran's for Trump” hat. I really wanted to reach over the table and snack it off his damn head and tell him to wake the fuck up.
So God damned sick of stupid. Especially when it fucks us all over.

LPBBEAR

(406 posts)
45. What do you suppose
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 09:38 PM
Dec 6

is going to happen to the economy when you suddenly yank the income of millions of Social Security recipients and Medicare benefit recipients?

Republicans see the world through a set of rich eyes and think we recipients of these programs are like them. In their twisted minds they think the money we get from Social Security and in Medicare benefits is just fun money we don't really need because, like them, we all have tons of money stashed away.

In reality most of the little money we do get goes right back into the US economy for food, bills, clothes cars, utilities and other needs. Yank it away suddenly and the US economy and Medical establishment will crash. Welcome to the Great Depression all over again.

Fucking chin drooling half witted idiots.

JanMichael

(25,352 posts)
47. But what about eggs??? And Harris didn't talk about policy?
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 10:41 PM
Dec 6

I suppose if the policy was written out in stick figures most people could understand it.

Jack Valentino

(1,550 posts)
48. Jack Valentino News is reporting that Jack Valentino is considering
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 10:49 PM
Dec 6

cutting Republicans....





(Is it actually sarcasm? We can't say for sure,
because Jack Valentino was not interviewed
before the network spilled this story,
which relies upon "some people say" non-quotes)

Dan

(4,181 posts)
52. The only way that I will believe that story is true, will be
Fri Dec 6, 2024, 11:56 PM
Dec 6

If Congress/POTUS/SCOTUS come after the guns and gun ownership. They’ll have to come after the guns first - because there are a shitload of people that only have one of those social programs funding to live on. If you have nothing, then you have nothing to lose.

There wouldn’t be a safe place in America for a politician regardless of party.

There wouldn’t be a place that a rich man could call safe outside of his mansion with Cartel like security.

They would have to shut down the public access to Congress/White House and the Supreme Court - because I think that we would also start to have suicide bombers; people setting themselves on fire in public to protest;; and finally the Lone Assassin multiplied by hundreds.

IMO.

Jack Valentino

(1,550 posts)
56. Republicans are not logical. They won't think about all those guns,
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 12:35 AM
Dec 7

before they have voted to hurt those people who own most of those guns,
and before one of their own sorry sons of bitches who voted thus,
gets shot in the street---

or maybe before MANY of them get shot in the street,
and maybe a few of their family members...

(just speculating here, I don't advocate such---
but--- give them a good reason, ok, GQP??)


I don't advocate violence---
but if Republicans start shooting each other in the street over policy---

BRING ON THE POPCORN!!!!

(I'll try to stay quiet and remain indoors)

Blue Dotty

(73 posts)
54. GOP Greed Over People
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 12:27 AM
Dec 7

No safety net for the poor, no benefit programs for the elderly, unaffordable if any health care - all this from a sadistic dictator and his thieving billionaire oligarchs.He is fond of calling a place a third world sh*t hole country. What he mocked in the past is what he is creating here now.

Response to Celerity (Original post)

lark

(24,394 posts)
59. They want to kill us off and replace us with indoctrinated ignorant idiots who will work nearly for free.
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 09:10 AM
Dec 7

They wants the serfs/barons model of government and only they get to be the barons. The middle class will be nearly destroyed and the poor will be so much more desperate.

FrankTC

(227 posts)
61. 2019 Alan Grayson Comment
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 10:13 AM
Dec 7

Remember how Alan Grayson was pilloried for saying that the GOP’s healthcare plan was Don’t get sick, but if you do, You should just die already. He was crucified for going beyond the limits of collegial decorum and lost his seat in Congress. I miss him.

IzzaNuDay

(734 posts)
62. The GOP should think about Brian Thompson
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 10:22 AM
Dec 7

if they think cutting SS, Medicare and Medicaid is a winning strategy.
who knows who will be pissed off enough to take one or more of them on. Like storm the Capitol, that’s done before!

Buckeyeblue

(5,742 posts)
64. This was put out there as a distraction
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 11:48 AM
Dec 7

Not that they wouldn't cut SSI, Medicare, etc. They'll do something. But it seems like this was put out there to get Democratic leaders to talk about something other than the list of crazies Trump is putting in his administration.

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