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Elmotime

(17 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 11:37 AM Dec 9

Penny found Not Guilty -

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/daniel-penny-verdict-nyc-subway-chokehold-jordan-neely/


Local News
Daniel Penny found not guilty in NYC subway chokehold death
newyork
By Katie Houlis, Alice Gainer

Updated on: December 9, 2024 / 11:32 AM EST / CBS New York


NEW YORK — Daniel Penny has been found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide in the chokehold death of Jordan Neely on a New York City subway car in 2023.

Penny, 26, pleaded not guilty to charges of second-degree manslaughter and criminally negligent homicide.

The judge dismissed the second-degree manslaughter charge against Penny on Friday after jurors said they could not come to a unanimous decision. The jury could only consider the negligent homicide charge if Penny was cleared of manslaughter, which is what the dismissal did.

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Penny found Not Guilty - (Original Post) Elmotime Dec 9 OP
Not a surprise! atreides1 Dec 9 #1
Hard to argue against self-d when subway riders that testified that they were fearing for their own safety. Dumpy Dec 9 #2
By a guy trained in use of a hold that guarenties unconscienceness and then fairly quickly death. marble falls Dec 9 #5
Agree DeepWinter Dec 9 #8
Yep Greg_In_SF Dec 9 #10
Agree Dumpy Dec 9 #14
Nope. No 'white privelige' here folks, keep moving on. I hope there's at least a civil suit. marble falls Dec 9 #3
They announced civil suit Tickle Dec 9 #7
What was Penny's stated defense? thx in advance uponit7771 Dec 9 #4
Maybe it was Drum Dec 9 #6
Defense of others, I think. Dr. Strange Dec 9 #12
"Not guilty" Seeking Serenity Dec 9 #13
some vigilante killings in nyc are more equal than others WhiskeyGrinder Dec 9 #9
So it seems Solly Mack Dec 9 #11

Dumpy

(49 posts)
2. Hard to argue against self-d when subway riders that testified that they were fearing for their own safety.
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 11:39 AM
Dec 9

marble falls

(62,521 posts)
5. By a guy trained in use of a hold that guarenties unconscienceness and then fairly quickly death.
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 11:44 AM
Dec 9

DeepWinter

(587 posts)
8. Agree
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 12:01 PM
Dec 9

Of what they very specifically charged him with, I thought him not guilty. Guilty of a lesser charge, quite likely. They pushed too far with too little to support it.

Dumpy

(49 posts)
14. Agree
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 07:54 PM
Dec 9

When they overreach on charges that don't fit and come back with lessor charges, why should the jury believe the second set of charges. They dismissed faster on the lessor charges, than they hung on the first charges.

Tickle

(3,153 posts)
7. They announced civil suit
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 11:55 AM
Dec 9

A few days ago. There are people who are very mad and it looks like they are going to hit the streets. Stay safe New Yorkers

Dr. Strange

(26,005 posts)
12. Defense of others, I think.
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 12:18 PM
Dec 9

There were several women (including one who had her child with her) that testified they felt threatened by Neely.

Seeking Serenity

(3,080 posts)
13. "Not guilty"
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 12:18 PM
Dec 9

A defendant in a criminal trial doesn't have to provide a defence. The totality of the burden is on the State to prove the defendant's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. And a jury is under no obligation to render a guilty verdict because the defendant exercises his right to remain silent.

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