Speaking Of 'Birthright Citizenship'... While We're On The Topic... All Of Trump's Children Qualify For Deporation...

[MayReasonRule]

https://bsky.app/profile/calltoactivism.bsky.social/post/3lcv5fzuvgc2h

[RockRaven]

1. Not all. There is that other one.

[brush]

2. Do you understand the term? If so, pls explain which one of trump's kids...

was born outside of the United States.

[patphil]

7. We know what the term means, and how the Constitution assures it, but Trump wants to dump that.

He wants to eliminate birthright citizenship if the mother isn't a citizen when the child was born, regardless of what the Constitution guarantees.
It doesn't matter that these kids were all born in the US, he wants to strip them of their citizenship.

Except in the case of white folks, of course. It's the black and brown kids he wants to deport.

[MayReasonRule]

13. Birthright Citizenship Currently Covers The Trump Family... Trump And MAGAT Fascists Wish To Change That...

Good for the goose... good for the gander...

[brush]

15. True enough. But the fuckers haven't changed it yet, I don't think they'll be able to.

[MayReasonRule]

17. Here's To That Being The Case... May They Suffer Their Due Rewards. May Darwin Serve Us Well And Quickly.

[moniss]

27. Come late January what do you think will stop

them? A court decision? So if they ignore the court decision against them and continue on who is going to stop them? Congress impeaching them? Really?

[brush]

28. You could very well be right. Dictator trump and his cabal may try...

to eliminate birth right citizen ship even though it's one of the founding pillars of the country.

Guess we'll find out soon enough. And I don't give trump the credit for dreaming this up. It's that pos Steven Miller, Bannon and the other assholes around trump feeding him this kind of crapola.

[moniss]

29. Absolutely and I have little doubt

that he got a full diet of Fred's wackiness and so he's very open to these types of people and their maniacal crap.

[alwaysinasnit]

3. Let's add tfg to that list as his mother was born in Scotland.

[Maru Kitteh]

4. Uh no. Tiffany is "safe." nt

[Ms. Toad]

5. Not even close.

Any child with at least one parent who is a citizen is automatically a citizen, regardless of where they were born. That makes all of Trump's children citizens, no matter where they were born and no matter whether their mother was a citizen or not.

Birthright citizenship generally refers to children who are born in the United States (even if their parents are not citizens) - when Trump talks about eliminating birthright citizenship, this is what he is referring to. But that doesn't apply here, since Trump was a citizen at the time of all of their births.

The ignorance in the bluesky post is sad, but unfortunately not surprising.

[boston bean]

10. We're trumps parents both us citizens

[Ms. Toad]

19. It doesn't matter.

Birthright citizenship (as Trump is using it) only applies to babies born on US soil with no parents who are citizens. So if even one is a citizen, his citizenship is solid.

His grandfather was a citizen, which makes his father a citizen, which gives him a citizen parent and makes him a citizen, wherever he was born.

[MayReasonRule]

16. You're Mistakenly Attributing Ignorance To Sadly Humorous Hypotheticals...

It's never ignorant to point out the glaring pile of elephant shit in a room.

This is that.

Here are the facts in evidence...

[Ms. Toad]

20. It is being taken seriously enough that there are fact-checks out disproving it. n/t

[MayReasonRule]

39. I'm Uncertain What Your Point Is...

I agree that:

The 14th Amendment precisely lays out that the premise of my post's hypothetical is hogwash.

That's beside the point...

Our judicial system has to date been insufficient to destroy the fascist enemy within.

Quite the opposite.
Our judicial system is being used as a cudgel to destroy our representative democracy and install a fascist theocracy.

So... Even as idiotic as this premise is... it doesn't even come close to the idiocy that we've already seen spewed out of the fascist asses that have been installed throughout our judiciary, executive, and legislatures.

Here's to sustaining our life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
Here's to reason's rule.

[Ms. Toad]

41. You repeated a meme which is inconsistent with any definition of birthright citizenship

suggesting that all of Trump's children could be deported. (Let's just pick and choose one parent and ignore the other

The meme itself had nothing to do with anything you have since added (destruction of representative democracy, destroying the fascist enemy within, installing a fascist theocracy - in just your single response to me).

The meme was legal nonsense, but because it is being spread - and understanding of citizenship in this country is so poor - it has taken fact-checking resources to try to dispel it. Repeating a meme like this just adds to the distortion of truth in pursuit of a political goal.

[MayReasonRule]

43. Thank You For Your Reply. It Would Seem That We Disagree On This Matter.

Nonetheless we each are working in our own way towards promoting and supporting our representative democracy.

Here's to our mutual success!

Have a nice life.

[FBaggins]

6. That isn't how it works

The birthright citizenship they’re objecting to is for people born in the US when neither of their parents were citizens or here legally.

One parent being foreign-born would be enough

[Prairie Gates]

8. As other posters have noted, Trump means some OTHER completely insane misinterpretation

of the Constitution and US citizenship criteria, not the completely insane misinterpretation being adduced in your OP.

[obamanut2012]

9. And Trump's mom was from Scotland

And his grandfather from Germany, and became a citizen well after Fred was born.

[MayReasonRule]

11. Ah Yes, Retroactive Recedence Of Birthright Citizenship!!

[TheBlackAdder]

12. Does that include the scores of Russians that flew to FL to deliver in Trump's condo units and fly back to Russia?

[highplainsdem]

26. I brought that up to a Trump-supporting relative today. He hung up on me.

[onenote]

18. It's bad when Trump misinterprets the Constitution. It's also bad when DUers do so.

As other have pointed out, the premise of the OP is flawed. Birthright citizenship applies to children born in the United States both, not just one, of whose parents were non-citizens.

[MayReasonRule]

25. The Premise Is Pointing Out The Sheer Idiocy.

That's the premise.

Nothing more nothing less.

Happy Monday evening y'all...

Have a better one.

[Celerity]

33. No it isn't, in reality. It is simply factually wrong. The bluesky account is making a false claim, as other DUers have

pointed out.

Cheers,

Cel

[MayReasonRule]

40. You're Mistaken... Have A Better One...

[Celerity]

42. I am absolutely not mistaken. Not at all. If one or both of a person's parents are US citizens at the time of that

person's birth, they are automatically a US citizen, regardless of where on the planet that person is born. Trump was a US citizen since birth, thus all his children are US citizens. The bluesky poster is in error.

Now, I MYSELF, if jus soli (birthright citizenship simply due to be born on a nation's soil) was ended, and taken away retroactively, would no longer be a US citizen. Neither of my parents are/were ever US citizens. No one in my nuclear family is or ever was, other than me. My wife is also not a US citizen. I am only a US citizen due to being born prematurely in Los Angeles in late 1996. My mother was going to fly back to London to have me, but I popped out 2 months early, and thus became a US citizen by accident of birthplace.

[UTUSN]

21. K&R

[Dave says]

22. Wouldn't that be sweet!

[Mariana]

23. I got news for you.

If Trump does away with birthright citizenship, *every* US citizen qualifies for deportation.

[MayReasonRule]

24. You're Not Wrong... It's In The 14th Amendment... So In Spite Of The Fascist Sound And Fury...

There is only a non-zero chance that could happen.

It is not a probable outcome.

[allegorical oracle]

36. Agree. It would be a real slog, especially with all the lawsuits that would pop up. My

theory is that at least some of TSF's threats regarding US citizenship aim to persuade migrants -- legal or otherwise -- to "self" deport.

[MayReasonRule]

37. I Wholeheartedly Agree... First Is Intimidation, Second Is Incarceration, Third Is Extermination

That's the classic fascist playbook.

[Vinca]

35. Exactly. Unless you're a Native American you're in violation.

[Ontheboundry]

31. Fairly.ceetain there is a supreme Court case

About this very subject from the 1800s with Chinese railroad workers

[mucholderthandirt]

32. That's either an "OOPS!" or a calculated move to get rid of the leeches in the family. Hm.

[ColinC]

34. Why are people taking the threat of eliminatihg birthright citizenship when it would require a constitutinal amendment?

[MayReasonRule]

38. Because Our Nation's Judicial System Has Been Insufficient To Eliminate The Fascist Threat Within

The rule of law is based in reason.

Fascism is the embrace of delusion.

Thus fascism only uses the law as a cudgel against reason.

That is our timeline.