'Police Say Luigi Mangione, Suspected Killer of Insurance CEO, Had Ill Will Toward Corporate America'

[sop]

"New York Police Department (NYPD) Chief of Detectives Joseph Kenny said Mangione was in possession of a 9mm handgun—possibly a ghost gun made with numerous parts or a 3D printer—the type used to kill Thompson, as well as a silencer and what he described as an anti-corporate manifesto."

"Mangione admitted to killing Thompson in the manifesto, writing that he acted alone and was 'self-funded.'...'I do apologize for any strife or trauma,' the document stated, 'but it had to be done. These parasites had it coming.'"

https://www.commondreams.org/news/luigi-mangione

Mangione had Ill will towards corporate America. Join the club, Luigi.

[BannonsLiver]

1. He's basically a magician

I've never seen someone make people's outrage toward our corporate overlords disappear so quickly.

[AZ8theist]

27. I don't think so.....

Is there any less disgust for Eloon Musk today than before this murder?

I doubt it. And even if there is, Eloon will erase any sympathy COMPLETELY by springtime.

The Reich Wing hatred of George Soros NEVER waned no matter what happened. Maybe the MAGATs will eventually figure out the people screwing them over are the same people they voted for. Maybe.

[B.See]

41. I agree. I think it a strange assumption

to suggest that the shooter's actions somehow lessened the general angst most Americans feel towards not only the insurance industry, but corporate America in general.

The only culprits escaping focus being Trump & Co's billionaire MAGAS who've always been behind the corporate grift while simultaneously working to undermine protections for consumers.

[Hope22]

30. Also a magician

To write a letter saying he killed someone before he killed someone…..once again a fancy mystery murder.

[soandso]

39. Was it written prior to the killing?

Where are you getting that?

[H2O Man]

40. Is there any

evidence he wrote it before the shooting?

[Evolve Dammit]

35. On the contrary....

[joshcryer]

37. don't worry, now that his left leaning side is out, they are shifting tunes

[soandso]

45. He looks to be anti corporate right wing

who share some positions with the anti capitalist far left. From tweets of his I've read, kind of libertarian, maybe, and some anarchist.

[Amishman]

46. Anti-corporate libertarians do exist

Essentially modifying the libertarian credo of wanting to maximize individual liberty and minimize government - with a caveat that corporations are not people and do not get the same rights.

[joshcryer]

50. "libertarian" was originally a left wing anti-capitalist term

The capitalists and right wing have coopted it to the point of absurdity.

[soandso]

54. That's right

and they believe in non aggression which Luigi blew with this murder. They also believe in individual responsibility and the right to freely make contracts and United Healthcare is a violator when it comes to contracts. I guess Luigi had reached the point where enough is enough, knowing that what's right is not respected in our legal system and with no other recourse for remedy, took the old fashioned approach to deal with a serious injustice.

I think we're gonna see a lot of "Free Luigi!" in the coming months.

I honestly don't know what's right here.

[LeftInTX]

2. He is a wealthy scion himself!

The Mangiones own several country clubs, including Haysfield Country Club in Hunt Valley, as well as healthcare facilities and real estate companies in the Baltimore area.

Luigi is the cousin of Maryland Republican Delegate Nino Mangione, who represents parts of Baltimore County.

According to our media partner at The Baltimore Banner, Luigi's late grandfather, Nicholas Mangione Sr., was a self-made real estate developer who owned country clubs, nursing homes and a radio station. His grandmother Mary, who died in 2023 from Parkinson's disease, was described in an obituary as a hospital benefactor and a music patron.

The Banner reports the Mangione family purchased Turf Valley Country Club in 1978, establishing it as a golf course resort and residential community. According to the Banner, family businesses also include the Lorien Health Services nursing homes and radio station WCBM-AM.

https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/unitedhealthcare-luigi-mangione-family-maryland-brian-thompson/

You should see Turf Valley Country Club that they own...

[Karasu]

22. It's weird as hell. But I don't think his personal wealth invalidates his hatred of corporate America, either.

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Their wealth is on a whole other level from his family, even if there's no doubt he benefited from them owning so many damn businesses.

The problem here is the very existence of the system, and health insurance shouldn't exist no matter what. It's an issue that transcends personal wealth, it's a matter of morality and social priorities.

[nilram]

24. And A thoughtful person.

I agree with most of his writing.

[LeftInTX]

26. His review of the unabomber's book? What did the unabomber accomplish for society?

[nilram]

36. I think Mangione's alleged actions

are consistent with his statement "when all other forms of communication have failed, violence is necessary to survive." The murder has gotten society communicating about the ways our health insurance system is broken. Time will tell if anything changes – unlikely in the current political environment – but this action has garnered more attention than Kazinski's random bombings and overly dense manifesto.

[LeftInTX]

44. Unabomber got a lot of attention, but his bombings were scattered over time and escalated gradually.

Unabomber seemed to get more attention after he was caught.

Also his crimes would get people who answered doors etc, not shootings in crowded Midtown Manhattan.

If Mangione would have killed Thompson in MN, it probably would not have had the impact.

[nilram]

51. And people don't relate to the environment as much as healthcare.

Even though the environment is arguably more important and overarching.

[ecstatic]

47. his words are going to influence some people.

I agree that violence is sometimes the answer but at the same time, I don't want that for our country. There's enough violence in our streets. I just want our elected officials to finally focus on improving all of our lives.

Anyway, I think I called it correctly. Everyone was trying to turn him into some sort of hero but we've seen this before, except the others killed hundreds of innocent people to make their points.

[global1]

3. Maybe His 'Ill Will' Was Denied Coverage By United Healthcare.....

A possible 'pre-existing' condition!!!

[Autumn]

4. Gasp!! He had ill will towards corporate America?? Say it ain't so.

What's not to love about Corporate America?

[Just_Vote_Dem]

6. LOL you beat me to it, nice! n/t

[Autumn]

9. Got to say demonizing those who are fed up with corporations getting away with murder and theft is

a good way to knock down the outrage. Fuck em.

[LeftInTX]

8. Considering that his family owns country clubs etc.

The Mangiones own several country clubs, including Haysfield Country Club in Hunt Valley, as well as healthcare facilities and real estate companies in the Baltimore area.

Luigi is the cousin of Maryland Republican Delegate Nino Mangione, who represents parts of Baltimore County.

According to our media partner at The Baltimore Banner, Luigi's late grandfather, Nicholas Mangione Sr., was a self-made real estate developer who owned country clubs, nursing homes and a radio station. His grandmother Mary, who died in 2023 from Parkinson's disease, was described in an obituary as a hospital benefactor and a music patron.

The Banner reports the Mangione family purchased Turf Valley Country Club in 1978, establishing it as a golf course resort and residential community. According to the Banner, family businesses also include the Lorien Health Services nursing homes and radio station WCBM-AM.

[Autumn]

11. One can be wealthy and still care about hardships other people suffer.

So some people say, usually wealthy politicians.

[LeftInTX]

13. Yes, but I don't believe he was a poor guy with denied health claims

And his grandparents owned the nursing home.

[Autumn]

15. Obviously he wasn't a poor guy with denied health claims.

We do have wealthy people on our side who care about the poor. Ed Sheeren, Tayler Swift, Dolly Parton.

[JT45242]

25. Could be friend, Boyfriend, girlfriend, etc or empathy..

Or maybe he has empathy for people suffering in spite of his family business.

[mtngirl47]

29. John F Kennedy, John Kerry, just two that popped into my head. n/t

[mucifer]

19. In a sense he chose poverty by risking a

Life in prison.

[tanyev]

12. So as soon as the full face pic of him came out,

his wealthy well-connected family knew it was him, maybe even suspected it earlier. I’d be interested in knowing when, or if, they contacted law enforcement?

[joshcryer]

42. Peter Kropotkin was a prince.

It's possible to come from a rich upbringing and still be for the plight of the simple people.

[LeftInTX]

43. Yes, I know. But it also goes against the narrative that he was a victim of UHC.

[JustAnotherGen]

5. So an *insider*

To the Mega Wealthy. Interesting.

[harumph]

7. Well, he made a number of boneheaded mistakes after his first big one.

Shoulda watched more slow burn crime procedurals!

[LeftInTX]

10. A unabomber fan!

[Evolve Dammit]

38. Only four stars out of five

[PeaceWave]

16. Ill will toward corporate America? Everyone hide!

[Prairie Gates]

17. Most of us who aren't going to end up in Dannemora have the good sense to sublimate that

And simply live our lives of quiet desperation and servitude.

[Baitball Blogger]

18. It sounds like he's prepared to face the consequences.

[IronLionZion]

20. Ill will to corporations and has guns

that really narrows down the potential list of copycats.

[Jacson6]

21. Cyndi Lauper - Time After Time -(Murder is not the answer.)

?t=1

Murder is not the answer. We need to campaign for Medicare for All.

[Linda ladeewolf]

23. I hope that if this

Is the guy, the jury chosen knows about jury nullification! I guess I have some ill will towards some corporations too.

[ananda]

28. As do most Americans I expect.

I don't condone murder, but I certainly
see that POV.

[AverageOldGuy]

31. "Ill Will Toward Corporate America . . . " ????

That describes a good portion of the population.

[DJ Synikus Makisimus]

32. Interesting for Joseph Kenny to say that about someone not yet charged.

I realize that the pearl clutches here have already pronounced a verdict, which seems quite illiberal. Whatever happened to a healthy asceticism about law enforcement, not to mention the liberal notion of trusting the judicial process. I wonder if, through such statements, NYPD and Joseph Kenny have biased any potential jury against Mr. Mangione already.

There's just too many unknowns here (as of this writing).

[alarimer]

33. Just like about 300 million other people.

And more around the world.

If you don't have I'll will towards corporate America, you are either part of it or not paying attention.

[Iggo]

34. LOL...ill will.

I guess that’s one way of putting it.

Nothin’ gets past these cops, eh?

[ZonkerHarris]

48. I have a lot of ill will towards them too.

[Always Blue]

49. They have been killing us and stealing wages.

Creating monopolies that should have been busted up decades ago. The original robber barons had the corporations declared personhood. That needed to end as soon as it started. That's why Citizens United was allowed to stand.

[orangecrush]

53. It is what it is.