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onetexan

(13,913 posts)
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 02:32 AM Dec 10

Can someone enlighten me - why are the Israelis bombing Syrian cities?

I keep reading Bibi has been bombing Syria's cities, and while i understand they are trying a land grab of the Syrian golan heights, the bombings are mindboggling.

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Can someone enlighten me - why are the Israelis bombing Syrian cities? (Original Post) onetexan Dec 10 OP
Bases and caches of weapons TheProle Dec 10 #1
They are bombing arms depots to destroy arms or applegrove Dec 10 #2
Thanks, the articles i read mentioned such, but is it legal onetexan Dec 10 #3
Since they are bombing chemical weapons depots, applegrove Dec 10 #6
Legal? What is legal? maxsolomon Dec 10 #20
While i agree the Israelis can bomb the weapons, they are also bombing Syria's naval ships, further destabilizing the onetexan Dec 11 #21
Not a single chance Ontheboundry Dec 10 #4
That Syria becomes a Democracy led by moderates? applegrove Dec 10 #5
I think Jordan has a king. ... littlemissmartypants Dec 10 #9
Yes but they are a moderate country for the Middle East applegrove Dec 10 #13
Politics of Jordan... littlemissmartypants Dec 10 #16
Even more mystifying is this Times of Israel article which makes it sound they are getting along great nmmi Dec 10 #7
It's a Sunni Shia thing. Same reason Saudi Arabia helps Israel JI7 Dec 10 #8
There's that. But I don't expect the era of good feelings to last long. Hamas is Sunni, as are most Palestinian nmmi Dec 10 #11
Because claudette Dec 10 #10
BINGO! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Dec 11 #22
The imperial core nations will continue to intervene Voltaire2 Dec 10 #12
Gaza, Lebanon and Syria malaise Dec 10 #14
The Shiite Crescent C0RI0LANUS Dec 10 #15
Because Netanyahu wants to Bettie Dec 10 #17
Why does anybody do anything? Blue_Tires Dec 10 #18
Story is ForgedCrank Dec 10 #19

applegrove

(123,618 posts)
2. They are bombing arms depots to destroy arms or
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 02:58 AM
Dec 10

poison gasses that could be used to attack Israel if some nasty group got control of Syria and its weapons. I think everyone is crossing their fingers it is a democracy full of moderates that run Syria from here on in but there is no guarantee.

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
3. Thanks, the articles i read mentioned such, but is it legal
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 03:28 AM
Dec 10

For Israel to bomb another country's stash of weapons like that without both countries engaged in a conflict against each other?

applegrove

(123,618 posts)
6. Since they are bombing chemical weapons depots,
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 04:03 AM
Dec 10

and chemical weapons are very illegal, I don't think the world is going to complain much. The new Syrian authority may not be so happy whomever they are.

maxsolomon

(35,359 posts)
20. Legal? What is legal?
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 12:31 PM
Dec 10

Israel and the Al Assad regime have been enemies for decades. Israel's been bombing Syria for this or that reason for decades. They took the Golan Heights from Syria because it was being used to rain artillery down on Israel.

Taking the opportunity to destroy weapons, including, presumably, chemical weapons (that Al Assad used) is a smart move.

The US is bombing in Syria, too. Attacking ISIL.

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
21. While i agree the Israelis can bomb the weapons, they are also bombing Syria's naval ships, further destabilizing the
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:42 AM
Dec 11

country. Israel is not doing a good thing here.

applegrove

(123,618 posts)
5. That Syria becomes a Democracy led by moderates?
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 04:01 AM
Dec 10

I was stretching there. I meant moderate for the Middle East. Like Jordan.

littlemissmartypants

(25,906 posts)
9. I think Jordan has a king. ...
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 04:25 AM
Dec 10

Abdullah II bin Al-Hussein[a] (born 30 January 1962) is King of Jordan, having ascended the throne on 7 February 1999. He is a member of the Hashemite, who have been the reigning royal family of Jordan since 1921, and is considered a 41st-generation direct descendant of the Islamic prophet Muhammad.[1]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_II_of_Jordan


applegrove

(123,618 posts)
13. Yes but they are a moderate country for the Middle East
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 05:26 AM
Dec 10

even though the King can replace the Prime Minister in a crisis. They allow political parties and a Parliament. Their foreign policy is moderate for the Middle East.

Lots of places have royalty and Parliaments. Canada, which is a full democracy, does. Great Britain too. Jordan is a limited democracy as the king uses his powers still.

littlemissmartypants

(25,906 posts)
16. Politics of Jordan...
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 12:16 PM
Dec 10

The politics of Jordan takes place in a framework of a parliamentary monarchy, whereby the Prime Minister of Jordan is head of government, and of a multi-party system. Jordan is a constitutional monarchy based on the constitution promulgated on January 8, 1952. The king exercises his power through the government he appoints which is responsible before the Parliament. In contrast to most parliamentary monarchies, the monarchy of Jordan is not ceremonial, with the King having significant influence over the affairs of the country.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Jordan

nmmi

(208 posts)
7. Even more mystifying is this Times of Israel article which makes it sound they are getting along great
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 04:05 AM
Dec 10

JI7

(90,894 posts)
8. It's a Sunni Shia thing. Same reason Saudi Arabia helps Israel
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 04:13 AM
Dec 10

This doesn't mean they love each other. But it's about going after a common enemy.

nmmi

(208 posts)
11. There's that. But I don't expect the era of good feelings to last long. Hamas is Sunni, as are most Palestinian
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 04:37 AM
Dec 10

Muslims, and they don't like Israel.

Voltaire2

(14,878 posts)
12. The imperial core nations will continue to intervene
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 04:57 AM
Dec 10

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in Syria, destroying and killing as they deem necessary.

C0RI0LANUS

(1,876 posts)
15. The Shiite Crescent
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 05:56 AM
Dec 10

For Sunni Salafists like the ones who ousted Bashar al-Assad, the Palestinian cause does not take precedent over purifying Mecca and Medina of so-called "impurities" or "corruption."

More important for these combat jihadists is defeating heretical regimes (meaning Shia Islam-led countries: the Shiite Crescent.)



The loss of Syria reduces the Shiite Crescent by one, leaving Iran, Iraq, Azerbaijan, and the Yemeni Houthis. Shia minorities in Central Asia and Pakistan are geo-politically ineffective but subject to Sunni persecution (like the Hazaras in Afghanistan).

The unresolved Yemeni Civil War is between Muhammad Bin Salman-backed Sunnis versus the Shiites. In 2015 when the Yemeni Shiites (AKA the Houthis) defeated and humiliated the Saudis and Sunni Yemeni army, MBS ordered an air and naval blockade of Yemen.



This inhuman blockade lead to a famine which the UN estimates killed 130,000 Shiites.


Hashem Mahmoud Atin, a 10-month-old displaced child suffering from acute malnutrition and who is unable to reach a hospital for treatment, is held by his mother at a refugee camp in Yemen.

When few countries helped the Houthis, Iran and Lebanese Hezbollah (their fellow Shiites) stepped in with massive food aid and arms. Out of gratitude and loyalty, the Houthis became proxies for Tehran and Lebanese Hezbollah. This is why we see the Houthis counterattacking Western maritime targets in the Red Sea or the Gulf of Aden whenever Israel attacks Iran, LH, or Syria. USCENTCOM then retaliates or conducts pre-emptive strikes against the Houthis. See CENTCOM press release below on one of their latest strikes.

Note: Shiite Hazaras bravely fought alongside US forces in Afghanistan.

Undated photo of elite Hazara soldiers courtesy of the Washington Post.


Sources:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/islamic-state-explains-why-it-doesnt-attack-israel-yet/

https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PRESS-RELEASES/Press-Release-View/Article/3963942/us-central-command-strikes-houthi-facilities-and-weapons-systems/

https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/03/1113852

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectarian_violence_in_Pakistan




ForgedCrank

(2,388 posts)
19. Story is
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 12:28 PM
Dec 10

the same, they are trying to destroy weapon depots and other war equipment. We are also doing the same thing right now. It is an effort to keep as many weapons as possible out of the hands of terrorists and hostiles.

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