biden should step down, let kamala be president so she can pardon him

[orleans]

in order that trump freaks do not go after him!

this was just suggested by a caller ("drew" ) on thom hartmann's show.

thom said he thought that was the best reason he has heard for biden stepping down.

i think it's a pretty good idea too.

what say du?

on edit: i just don't want joe to have to go thru their trumpublican shit for the rest of his life. he doesn't deserve it.

[Dennis Donovan]

1. It would also ruin all of Trump's "47" swag. n/t

[SheltieLover]

12. And it would take the air out of niki haley's sales

Pretty sure she has her heart set on being first woman pres.

[delisen]

30. Biden has done nothing to be pardoned for

Stop running scared. It just encouraged the bullies.

[Dennis Donovan]

33. okeydoke... n/t

[Trekologer]

42. Besides if Trump wants to waste time and resources investigating President Biden

instead of using them toward his smash and grab, maybe let him cook.

[Trueblue1968]

40. I agree !!!! Step down now PresidentBiden. Let VP Harris take care of you sir. We love Biden.

[Keepthesoulalive]

2. No

They will just make something else up and then they will go after her.

[-misanthroptimist]

19. Biden could pardon Harris...

...then resign. Then Harris can pardon Biden.

Then Trump can whine (which he'll do anyway.)

[Keepthesoulalive]

22. They can go after them for anything and nothing

The country is in enough turmoil, we don’t need this.

[-misanthroptimist]

23. Well, then. I guess we should just not defend ourselves.

We should just accept our fates and out class them...or something.

[Keepthesoulalive]

27. Pick your battles

This is not a hill to die on. Please don’t disparage my activism because I don’t get wrapped up in fantasy. I believe Joe knows what he is doing and we have to trust him on this one.

[-misanthroptimist]

45. I believe in planning for battles

Even if they're not the battles I choose, I may still be forced to fight them. Best to be prepared, especially when one doesn't have the luxury of knowing when or how they will be attacked.

[Keepthesoulalive]

46. Some of us are always

Planning for battle, it’s just the way it is. I will not fight when people are speculating about things we have no say in. We’ve got a mad man getting ready to take over our country and I am prepping for that.

[tritsofme]

3. No thanks.

[in2herbs]

4. The only advantage to this is that it would take the air out of 45s statements that prosecuting

Biden is what he intends to do. If 46 and all the other people 45 says he will "go after" get a pardon, 45 and his cabinet's actions will be on full display w/o 45 being able to distract.

[allegorical oracle]

24. While TSF is capable of anything, can't see what he could charge Joe with. And Joe

already has the SCOTUS decision on his side. If whatever he's accused of is as an act of POTUS, he's good to go.

[CrispyQ]

34. Also all his 47th gear would have to be reprinted.

[Glorfindel]

5. Isn't accepting a pardon an admission of guilt?

The only thing President Biden is guilty of is being a good man and an exemplary president. I wouldn't do it if I were he.

[orleans]

7. well, there were some docs in his garage so even tho it was no big deal

couldn't they go after him for that?

and a blanket pardon should cover that.

idk

[allegorical oracle]

25. He promptly returned them to the Archives. nt

[orleans]

41. i know he "prompt;u returned them to the archives." doesn't mean trump team won't go after him for it, does it? nt

[Ocelot II]

29. No, that's a common misinterpretation of the Burdick case.

Burdick v. United States said that a person was not required to accept a pardon because doing so could raise an inference that they were guilty. However, accepting a pardon is not a legal admission of guilt or the equivalent of a guilty plea. Nixon accepted his pardon without ever admitting a thing.

[Emile]

6. All that merchandise with 47 on it would be worthless.

Sounds good to me ☺️ 😂.

[Omnipresent]

17. Yes!

Make her the first female President, and bump that fucker down the line to #48!

[Hope22]

8. Biden already has presidential immunity.

I wish he would do it though so the US could get over the deal about a woman president! Rip that bandaid off and put her in the office she worked so hard for. Maybe do if on New Years Eve so we have something to celebrate! Icing on the cake would be disrupting T’s numbering sequence. That would be total sads about his merchandise.

[MichMan]

9. That would also give Kamala a huge pension spike as well

[Hekate]

10. This notion comes up just about weekly around here. Why?

No — for so many reasons, no

[bif]

31. The same reason you see a dozen posts about the same thing daily

No one bothers to check before posting.

[orleans]

44. while i am not here and posting as much as you, i have not seen any post

suggesting kamala pardon biden so trump can't go after him.

i've seen other reasons including first woman president, the merch angle but not the one i wrote about in the op

[Srkdqltr]

11. Lots of magical thinking around here.

[krawhitham]

13. He can pardon himself

[Redleg]

21. I don't know if this is the case.

I have wondered about whether the president can self-pardon. I don't know and am not a constitutional scholar. I did take Constitutional Law II as an undergrad but we didn't get into this issue.

I don't think our system should permit a president to self-pardon. I don't doubt that Trump will try to do so and who will stop him?

[allegorical oracle]

26. Thought that matter came up and was resolved with Nixon/Watergate. Heard the quote,

"No man can judge himself." That's why Ford pardoned Nixon.

[Redleg]

32. Well, I don't know if that represents a precedent

and anyway, the current Supreme Court doesn't seem to care about precedents anyway.

[Pisces]

14. No

[kentuck]

15. Then they would turn their wrath toward Kamala.

Who would pardon her?

[Maru Kitteh]

16. The first woman president must be freely ELECTED or it will render that presidency null

- worse than null. It will leave a foul taste in the electorate that will poison the path of the next, and in the case of this suggestion, all Democrats.

[Omnipresent]

18. I don't really care, do you?

[Redleg]

20. That would cause some heads to explode- I am intrigued at first glance

I don't know whether it would be a good idea though- I would need to ponder on it for a while.

[doc03]

28. It is a rediculous idea. nt

[Emile]

36. What is so red about it,?

[doc03]

38. First of all there is no chance Biden would do it. nt

[malaise]

35. For what exactly? n/t

[themaguffin]

37. No. Many who are targets apparently don't want pardons, so I'm going to view it as nobody gets pardons for possible...

...future trump actions against them (which honestly should show the country how bad he is).

[Jit423]

39. She could do a lot of things he can't or won't do right now.

It would also enshrine the Democrats as having the first female/Asian/Black President. And one day, Kamala would be the only SCPTUS Justice who was once President of the USA. She could pardon ALL of Biden's staff pm Trump's hit list.

[LogDog75]

43. I don't think he needs to do that.

It would be funny to make Trump have to reprint everything he has 47 on. On Biden pardoning himself, this is an interesting idea.

If Biden pardons himself, would Trump, once he takes office, direct the Justice Department to file suit claiming Biden doesn't have the power to do that. The case would go to the Supreme Court who would rule in Trump's favor.

With the Supreme Court win, Trump would then be unable to grant himself a pardon thereby putting himself in jeopardy when his term is over or whenever Vance uses the 25th Amendment on him.

On a side note, if Trump is going to do away with some of the cabinet positions (principals), all that does is lower the majority number needed for Vance to declare Trump unable to discharge his duties.