With all due respect, Governor Shapiro . . .

[markpkessinger]

. . . when was the last time you or one of your loved ones was denied access to lifesaving medical care or medication, or faced bankruptcy because such coverage was denied?

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[yagotme]

1. Is it your opinion, then, that assassins are heroes?

Or, it's just OK if the target "really deserves it"?

[Seeking Serenity]

8. Oh, you just brought up memories of one of my favourite uncles

He used to say, jokingly, with a thick Southern accent, "Y'know, a li'l dose of killin' would do him good." The children would always laugh.

Thank you for that memory.

[yagotme]

9. YW.

Sometimes those old sayings pop up and bring back some good memories.

[mcar]

2. So you're OK with cold-blooded murder if

you don't like what someone is doing?

Like the murder of Dr. Tiller in his church - you're OK with that killer being set free? After all, he didn't like what Dr. Tiller was doing.

How about a young man who shoots up a school because he was bullied there? Or a MAGAt deciding to murder their Democratic mayor because he thinks Democrats are evil? Is that OK?

[JohnSJ]

4. Well stated. The insanity is spreading.

[mcar]

6. I have never been so disturbed by anything on this site

I'm starting to see how some have been able to justify Hamas' rape, torture and murder of people in Israel on Oct. 6. It is all perfectly senseless and heartless.

[tenderfoot]

11. Luigi is going to jail but I find it even more disturbing that UHC will skate on their shitty practices.

eom

[peregrinus]

13. You really shoehorned that issue

Into the discussion didn’t you? I’ll tell you this, if you are against this then you need to be against all the war crimes Israel has perpetrated

[maxrandb]

30. Spare me!

This effing country just elected a rapist who encourages violence EVERY EFFING TIME HE OPENS HIS EFFING PIEHOLE

Don't blame DU for what the MAGAts have normalized.

It wasn't fucking funny when they "joked" about an 80 year old man getting his skull crushed by a hammer either.

[mcar]

32. Please show where I said it was funny when Paul Pelosi was attacked

MAGAts have normalized violence, I agree with you there.

So why are some here going along with what vile, disgusting MAGAts do?

[Elessar Zappa]

14. I think the murderer should be prosecuted.

That said, I don’t give a damn that a greedy sociopath was killed.

[The Grand Illuminist]

31. Then there is Christopher Dorner.

Which all he wanted was his name cleared.

We are at the point of hopelessness that no matter who talks about having hope or keeping hope alive and how many time it has been said will be shut out because patience is gone. Hope is a dead word now.

[tenderfoot]

3. The constant avoiding the issue (UHC/shitty healthcare) is astonishing

Unfuckingbelievable!

[Linda ladeewolf]

5. No what all politicians

Seem to be saying is that it’s okay for CEOs to sign a piece of paper that denies lifesaving care to a person and allow that person to die for money. Because it’s just business, legal business. Isn’t that what the mob always says before they shoot you? But if one of us kills one of those murdering but wealthy CEOs it’s bad. It’s just businesses. It’s only because they are rich, if they were poor, no one would care.

[bluesbassman]

16. Yes, because that's the "rule of law". Unfortunately the rule of law is superseded by the Golden Rule.

No, not the one Jesus taught, the one that actually operates in the real world: “Whoever has the gold makes the rules”.

[newdeal2]

18. CEOs don't sign any paper on an individual case

Let's be a little real here. UHC has 440,000 employees. The CEO is not approving or denying individual claims.

[delisen]

24. The CEO sets the policy to let people die

Similar to Trump setting the mob on Congress.

[GreenWave]

29. Or twiddling thumbs while COVID ran amok.

[Linda ladeewolf]

26. The CEO set up the system.

He is in charge. He tells the employees what to do. Ultimately he is responsible. If our congress will not set up standards forcing these companies to do the job they are paid to do, sooner or later the public will be forced to do it for them. Yes that means violence usually ensues.

We elect people to do these jobs and they are more interested in serving themselves not us. If Americans had any sense, we’d give these jokers in congress a one term trial and vote them out if they didn’t at least try to serve us. We are so used to being patient, and being lied too, and hoping our politicians will do the right thing, that we let these people put us off over and over. It’s time we started holding their noses to the grindstone. Tax the rich the percentage they used to pay and while we’re at it tax these churches that are sticking their noses in our political system. Separation was there for a reason.

We need to be able to recall any elected official that doesn’t do what they were voted in for. At least the distractions would keep them from screwing us over.

[newdeal2]

27. I disagree that this will change anything

Some people may feel some token of justice by this killing. But offing CEOs will not change the motivations of for-profit insurance companies, I guarantee it. The CEO is not the only one who benefits from the current healthcare system. You will need a huge shift in society and government regulation for real meaningful change.

Maybe I'll expand on my views in a separate thread at some point.

[BannonsLiver]

7. Careful

America’s healthcare problems are forbidden subjects to talk about. It goes a little something like this:

Person 1: “We’ve got some real problems with our healthcare system. I think this guy’s actions, however misguided, have started a conversation…”

Person 2: “Oh, so you’re for murder now? That solves the problem?!1!??! I can’t believe this is the same place I joined 25 years ago.”

[Bettie]

10. Yeah, that is an accurate

assessment of how it goes these days.

[markpkessinger]

17. Indeed . . .

. . . and replies #1 and 2 to this post bear you out!

[BannonsLiver]

21. Yes, I noticed that as well.

Nuance is most on many here, I’m sorry to say.

[mcar]

19. Interesting. I'm seeing the exact opposite

Person 1: "I've got some real problems with people who are OK with murder because they don't like what the person did for a living."

Person 2: "Oh so you're OK with health insurance companies murdering their policy holders?"

[BannonsLiver]

20. LMAO

🙄

[Linda ladeewolf]

34. I find most people don't actually read

The whole comment, they usually pick out a phrase and jump on it. Like the bible.

[DronePilot]

12. He & Fetterman can scream at clouds together.

[dalton99a]

15. "Only crazy people think our health insurance industry is bad"

[muriel_volestrangler]

22. The thing is, you obviously agree with him that the killer is "no hero"

Shapiro talks about "dark corners" that say he is. Which may exist, but they're not the people who are just saying "I don't mourn Johnson". There's a big gap between "I don't mourn him" and "his killer is a hero". Whether these "dark corners" are significant ought to be measured before a governor talks about it. And people shouldn't go off on the governor as if he's criticised them, when they haven't actually be praising the killer.

[The Grand Illuminist]

23. War is hell.

nt

[onenote]

33. That's how Timothy McVeigh justified his bombing of the Murrah Building.

Just sayin'

[delisen]

28. I have not mourned the murders of murderers

There may well be people who do mourn and are saddened by such killings.

I don't judge them.

[Cobalt Violet]

35. I hope he doesn't run for president next time.

We don't need a scolder-in-chief. We need someone who gets what's going on.

[HereForTheParty]

36. It doesn't disturb me

His being knowingly complicit in the deaths of so many people leaves me with no cares to give. He had a family? So did his victims.