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Bettie

(17,389 posts)
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 05:17 PM Dec 11

New UHC CEO says they will continue to guard against "unnecessary" care.

It was a leaked video.

The CEO of UnitedHealth Group said in a leaked internal video that the insurance company will continue to work to prevent "unnecessary" and "unsafe" care that would strain the health care system.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/leaked-video-shows-unitedhealth-ceo-saying-insurer-continue-practices-combat-unnecessary-care

The leaked video is not shown, but it is being reported in multiple places.

So, don't worry, supporters of UHC! They will continue to deny coverage to as many people as possible!

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New UHC CEO says they will continue to guard against "unnecessary" care. (Original Post) Bettie Dec 11 OP
Bloated CEO salaries and obscene profits GenThePerservering Dec 11 #1
We have to applaud him for doing everything he can to protect our kind and benevolent oligarchs. LiberalArkie Dec 11 #2
I know, right? Bettie Dec 11 #6
Who Decides What's "Unnecessary"? ProfessorGAC Dec 11 #3
It's my understanding that anciano Dec 11 #9
I Read That, Too ProfessorGAC Dec 11 #11
It means "it's expensive & reduces margins" vanessa_ca Dec 11 #17
So who is going to take up the cause next? newdeal2 Dec 11 #4
They can't seem to grasp, that the public has had enough. Omnipresent Dec 11 #28
Doctors are also part of the problem. Lonestarblue Dec 11 #5
That is disgusting. Evolve Dammit Dec 11 #25
And how dafuq would he determine "unnecessary"? AI algorithms? sakabatou Dec 11 #7
Honestly, probably Bettie Dec 11 #8
And have a scape goat to blame for the denials berniesandersmittens Dec 11 #16
All insurers guard again "unnecessary" care, even Medicare and Medicaid. The alternative Silent Type Dec 11 #10
Sure, it's 100% the doctors.... Bettie Dec 11 #12
Any examples of an ACA compliant insurer that denied care for a broken leg, cancer, etc., Silent Type Dec 11 #13
Doesn't have to be doctors or medical staff EdmondDantes_ Dec 11 #32
Back in the 60s they gave out lots of restriction for multigraincracker Dec 11 #34
Have more guts than me. I decided not to mention patients doctor shopping, asking for multiple tests, wanting the newest Silent Type Dec 11 #39
Yep. Every now and then DOJ announces that they caught healthcare providers Just_Vote_Dem Dec 11 #20
Hmm. He didn't learn a thing. JanMichael Dec 11 #14
Not only didn't learn, but doubled down. TBF Dec 11 #22
Unnecessary enid602 Dec 11 #15
Rec malaise Dec 11 #18
Helluva slogan for a TV ad though...eh? B.See Dec 11 #19
That was really stupid!! He should have kept his mouth shut. But I'm glad he was stupid!! nt LAS14 Dec 11 #21
Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss... Evolve Dammit Dec 11 #23
"Unnecessary" is the very definition of Healthcare company CEO... Moostache Dec 11 #24
There is also out there a leaked video of a group of CEO discussing pricing options while inflation is high (2023 or Jit423 Dec 11 #26
Have a friend that works for BC/BS and said multigraincracker Dec 11 #37
Back under George HW Bush.. Mustellus Dec 11 #27
He's not the new CEO ClaireF Dec 11 #29
What an idiot. byronius Dec 11 #30
That guy dumped 100 million in stock soandso Dec 11 #31
Anyone taking bets? nt Javaman Dec 11 #33
Their only alternative is admitting the truth--that they shouldn't even fucking exist. Which of course they Karasu Dec 11 #35
Does that include body guards? Xipe Totec Dec 11 #36
translation: We haven't learned a damn thing from this. We're gonna keep screwing people. patphil Dec 11 #38
We shall continue to guard against "unnecessary" shootings... Jack Valentino Dec 11 #40
Looks like their CEO didn't spring for the "Preventative Care from Shootings" package. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Dec 11 #41

LiberalArkie

(16,658 posts)
2. We have to applaud him for doing everything he can to protect our kind and benevolent oligarchs.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 05:21 PM
Dec 11

Bettie

(17,389 posts)
6. I know, right?
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 05:25 PM
Dec 11

Can't have them taking even a tiny bit less profit...or having subpar champagne at one of their meetings, not to mention second-rate Hors d'oeuvres.

Got to spend that money on the important things, not health care that the suckers paid for and thought they would get!

ProfessorGAC

(70,606 posts)
3. Who Decides What's "Unnecessary"?
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 05:24 PM
Dec 11

If unnecessary means medically unnecessary, this seems a prudent operating procedure.
If it means "it's expensive & reduces margins" i have a different opinion.

ProfessorGAC

(70,606 posts)
11. I Read That, Too
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 05:36 PM
Dec 11

And the algorithm probably takes margins & weights them accordingly.
Ss in, the most important factor!

newdeal2

(1,135 posts)
4. So who is going to take up the cause next?
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 05:24 PM
Dec 11

Will be interesting to see if there are indeed copycats.

Lonestarblue

(11,983 posts)
5. Doctors are also part of the problem.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 05:25 PM
Dec 11

WaPo published an article a few days ago about what doctors code for higher payments. One example given was a pediatrician who noticed a small splinter in a child’s finger and tweezed it out. The bill was for a surgery of nearly $500!

Everything turns on greed in this country.

Bettie

(17,389 posts)
8. Honestly, probably
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 05:27 PM
Dec 11

that way they get to reduce headcount AND have even more claims rejected! Win/WIn for the bottom line!

Silent Type

(7,331 posts)
10. All insurers guard again "unnecessary" care, even Medicare and Medicaid. The alternative
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 05:31 PM
Dec 11

is increased premiums due to cheating by docs, hospitals, etc.

Obviously, determining “unnecessary” is subject to abuse, even under Medicare/caid.

Guess we could shoot all administrative people, doctors, burn hospitals, etc.

Bettie

(17,389 posts)
12. Sure, it's 100% the doctors....
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 05:46 PM
Dec 11

trying to defraud the good, noble, oligarchs.

I mean, a broken leg doesn't NEED to be set....cancer can wait a while to get approval, and if the person dies while waiting for approval for treatment? BONUS! They won't need that expensive chemotherapy!

Such a terrible thing, to pay for health insurance and them expect that insurance to PAY for health care.

What a travesty! Won't someone think of the executives? They are just trying to ensure that their bonuses are exponentially higher every year. People making claims as if their payments entitle them to medical care is the real crime!

Silent Type

(7,331 posts)
13. Any examples of an ACA compliant insurer that denied care for a broken leg, cancer, etc.,
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 05:50 PM
Dec 11

other than treatments that even Medicare denies.

EdmondDantes_

(116 posts)
32. Doesn't have to be doctors or medical staff
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:14 PM
Dec 11

Could be a patient demanding unnecessary scans.

But there's a lot of fraud, waste, and abuse (FWA) in the medical system. Some by genuine accident, some by intent. Insurers have a mandated allowance for overhead/profit. Hospitals and medical groups don't. And even if they aren't openly fraudulent, the pay by service instead of paying by result has an influence as evidenced by doctors being way more likely to order an MRI if their practice has an MRI machine.

FWA is at least 100 billion a year just in Medicare and Medicaid, but are presumed higher. That's a lot of money. And only going to get worse as private equity gets more powerful in buying hospitals and other medical groups.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2011/12/01/143004226/mris-more-likely-to-be-negative-when-the-doctor-profits

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/09/how-medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-became-a-100b-problem-for-the-us.html

Silent Type

(7,331 posts)
39. Have more guts than me. I decided not to mention patients doctor shopping, asking for multiple tests, wanting the newest
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 08:04 PM
Dec 11

expensive meds/treatments because they saw an ad, asking doc to bill cosmetic Botox as a covered treatment for headaches, etc. All us poor people pay for that, although I fully support when a doctor tells a patient maybe they should see a psychiatrist.

It is a problem that will plague us under universal healthcare too.

Just_Vote_Dem

(3,195 posts)
20. Yep. Every now and then DOJ announces that they caught healthcare providers
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 06:36 PM
Dec 11

cheating Medicare. There always has to be some kind of oversight for those who are trying to game the sytem.

TBF

(34,752 posts)
22. Not only didn't learn, but doubled down.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 06:44 PM
Dec 11

And I expect Trump et al to do the same.

The folks in the comments who are defending their insurance company employers will understand when their O/T is *poof* gone.

B.See

(3,823 posts)
19. Helluva slogan for a TV ad though...eh?
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 06:31 PM
Dec 11
"Because at United, we guard against unnecessary care."

LAS14

(14,789 posts)
21. That was really stupid!! He should have kept his mouth shut. But I'm glad he was stupid!! nt
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 06:38 PM
Dec 11

Moostache

(10,180 posts)
24. "Unnecessary" is the very definition of Healthcare company CEO...
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 06:45 PM
Dec 11

"profit" and "share-holder value" have no place in the discussion, no seat at the table and no quarter in the future to come...

The last guy that led that organization is probably smiling up from hell at his protege...

BY DEFINITION - EVERY DOLLAR SPENT ON EXECUTIVE PAY - EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. - is "MEDICALLY UNNECESSARY".

Jit423

(429 posts)
26. There is also out there a leaked video of a group of CEO discussing pricing options while inflation is high (2023 or
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 06:52 PM
Dec 11

early 2024). It was shown on YouTube about 8 months ago but has since disappeared.

Mustellus

(341 posts)
27. Back under George HW Bush..
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 06:54 PM
Dec 11

Back under George HW Bush, my wife was fighting Crohn's disease. I had to get pre-authorization TO GO TO THE F*****G EMERGENCY ROOM. Doctors would lie that they approved going, and i wound up TAPPING MY OWN TELEPHONE. The last refusal was withdrawn when I pointed out Open Season was coming, and I threatened to use my computer to notify 50,000 of my closest friends to not choose United Health Care. This is what is coming again.
And yes, after years of death threats from conservatives, "Kill all the Liberals", I am perfectly happy with some CEO's worrying.. losing sleep.. even getting ulcers. Better them than third graders. Its the cost of Free Dumb.
At the cost of a medical bankruptcy, my wife survived.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
31. That guy dumped 100 million in stock
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:08 PM
Dec 11

and it was insider trading. I hope he gets taken down. Total asshole.

Karasu

(368 posts)
35. Their only alternative is admitting the truth--that they shouldn't even fucking exist. Which of course they
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:29 PM
Dec 11

(quite literally) can't afford to do.

Xipe Totec

(44,109 posts)
36. Does that include body guards?
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:30 PM
Dec 11

I mean, that's totally unecessary, right? Besides, flying lead is a preexisting condition.

patphil

(7,116 posts)
38. translation: We haven't learned a damn thing from this. We're gonna keep screwing people.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 08:03 PM
Dec 11

further translation: Unnecessary and unsafe care is anything that cuts into our profit margin, so fuck you all.

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