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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNew UHC CEO says they will continue to guard against "unnecessary" care.
It was a leaked video.
The CEO of UnitedHealth Group said in a leaked internal video that the insurance company will continue to work to prevent "unnecessary" and "unsafe" care that would strain the health care system.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/leaked-video-shows-unitedhealth-ceo-saying-insurer-continue-practices-combat-unnecessary-care
The leaked video is not shown, but it is being reported in multiple places.
So, don't worry, supporters of UHC! They will continue to deny coverage to as many people as possible!
GenThePerservering
(2,675 posts)"strain the health care system."
LiberalArkie
(16,658 posts)Bettie
(17,389 posts)Can't have them taking even a tiny bit less profit...or having subpar champagne at one of their meetings, not to mention second-rate Hors d'oeuvres.
Got to spend that money on the important things, not health care that the suckers paid for and thought they would get!
ProfessorGAC
(70,606 posts)If unnecessary means medically unnecessary, this seems a prudent operating procedure.
If it means "it's expensive & reduces margins" i have a different opinion.
anciano
(1,603 posts)AI algorithms now decide what is or isn't necessary.....
ProfessorGAC
(70,606 posts)And the algorithm probably takes margins & weights them accordingly.
Ss in, the most important factor!
vanessa_ca
(70 posts)as clearly, very clearly ullustrated here in their handling of a Penn State student case
UnitedHealthcare Tried to Deny Coverage to a Chronically Ill Patient. He Fought Back, Exposing the Insurers Inner Workings.
newdeal2
(1,135 posts)Will be interesting to see if there are indeed copycats.
Omnipresent
(6,482 posts)Lonestarblue
(11,983 posts)WaPo published an article a few days ago about what doctors code for higher payments. One example given was a pediatrician who noticed a small splinter in a childs finger and tweezed it out. The bill was for a surgery of nearly $500!
Everything turns on greed in this country.
Evolve Dammit
(19,063 posts)sakabatou
(43,258 posts)Bettie
(17,389 posts)that way they get to reduce headcount AND have even more claims rejected! Win/WIn for the bottom line!
berniesandersmittens
(11,714 posts)It was the AI System, not us!
Silent Type
(7,331 posts)is increased premiums due to cheating by docs, hospitals, etc.
Obviously, determining unnecessary is subject to abuse, even under Medicare/caid.
Guess we could shoot all administrative people, doctors, burn hospitals, etc.
Bettie
(17,389 posts)trying to defraud the good, noble, oligarchs.
I mean, a broken leg doesn't NEED to be set....cancer can wait a while to get approval, and if the person dies while waiting for approval for treatment? BONUS! They won't need that expensive chemotherapy!
Such a terrible thing, to pay for health insurance and them expect that insurance to PAY for health care.
What a travesty! Won't someone think of the executives? They are just trying to ensure that their bonuses are exponentially higher every year. People making claims as if their payments entitle them to medical care is the real crime!
Silent Type
(7,331 posts)other than treatments that even Medicare denies.
EdmondDantes_
(116 posts)Could be a patient demanding unnecessary scans.
But there's a lot of fraud, waste, and abuse (FWA) in the medical system. Some by genuine accident, some by intent. Insurers have a mandated allowance for overhead/profit. Hospitals and medical groups don't. And even if they aren't openly fraudulent, the pay by service instead of paying by result has an influence as evidenced by doctors being way more likely to order an MRI if their practice has an MRI machine.
FWA is at least 100 billion a year just in Medicare and Medicaid, but are presumed higher. That's a lot of money. And only going to get worse as private equity gets more powerful in buying hospitals and other medical groups.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2011/12/01/143004226/mris-more-likely-to-be-negative-when-the-doctor-profits
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/09/how-medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-became-a-100b-problem-for-the-us.html
multigraincracker
(34,326 posts)Bone Spurs.
Silent Type
(7,331 posts)expensive meds/treatments because they saw an ad, asking doc to bill cosmetic Botox as a covered treatment for headaches, etc. All us poor people pay for that, although I fully support when a doctor tells a patient maybe they should see a psychiatrist.
It is a problem that will plague us under universal healthcare too.
Just_Vote_Dem
(3,195 posts)cheating Medicare. There always has to be some kind of oversight for those who are trying to game the sytem.
JanMichael
(25,317 posts)TBF
(34,752 posts)And I expect Trump et al to do the same.
The folks in the comments who are defending their insurance company employers will understand when their O/T is *poof* gone.
enid602
(9,086 posts)Unnecessary care. Is that like unnecessary eaters?
Im shocked - NOT
B.See
(3,823 posts)LAS14
(14,789 posts)Evolve Dammit
(19,063 posts)Moostache
(10,180 posts)"profit" and "share-holder value" have no place in the discussion, no seat at the table and no quarter in the future to come...
The last guy that led that organization is probably smiling up from hell at his protege...
BY DEFINITION - EVERY DOLLAR SPENT ON EXECUTIVE PAY - EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. - is "MEDICALLY UNNECESSARY".
Jit423
(429 posts)early 2024). It was shown on YouTube about 8 months ago but has since disappeared.
multigraincracker
(34,326 posts)all the CEOs have had bodyguards for years.
Mustellus
(341 posts)Back under George HW Bush, my wife was fighting Crohn's disease. I had to get pre-authorization TO GO TO THE F*****G EMERGENCY ROOM. Doctors would lie that they approved going, and i wound up TAPPING MY OWN TELEPHONE. The last refusal was withdrawn when I pointed out Open Season was coming, and I threatened to use my computer to notify 50,000 of my closest friends to not choose United Health Care. This is what is coming again.
And yes, after years of death threats from conservatives, "Kill all the Liberals", I am perfectly happy with some CEO's worrying.. losing sleep.. even getting ulcers. Better them than third graders. Its the cost of Free Dumb.
At the cost of a medical bankruptcy, my wife survived.
ClaireF
(16 posts)Hes been CEO since 2021.
byronius
(7,643 posts)Next!
Next!
Next!
See how long the corporate learning curve is.
soandso
(1,631 posts)and it was insider trading. I hope he gets taken down. Total asshole.
Javaman
(63,196 posts)Karasu
(368 posts)(quite literally) can't afford to do.
Xipe Totec
(44,109 posts)I mean, that's totally unecessary, right? Besides, flying lead is a preexisting condition.
patphil
(7,116 posts)further translation: Unnecessary and unsafe care is anything that cuts into our profit margin, so fuck you all.