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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(116,480 posts)
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 06:46 PM Dec 11

The US is striking targets across Syria, and it isn't the only one dropping bombs in this uncertain moment

The US military has carried out extensive airstrikes in Syria since the Assad regime collapsed over the weekend, and it's not the only country on the hunt for targets in this uncertain moment.

American, Israeli, and Turkish forces have all been involved in bombing targets across Syria over the past few days in actions said to be in support of their respective national security interests.

For the US, this means continuing to go after the Islamic State, as it has done for years, but with an intensity to keep the group at bay. The Biden administration has stated that this mission will continue despite uncertainty about the future of Syria's leadership.

The US has repeatedly said that it is committed to the enduring defeat of ISIS. "We don't want to give ISIS an opportunity to exploit what's going on," White House National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby told reporters on Tuesday, adding, "They love nothing more than ungoverned space."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-bombing-targets-across-syria-224825529.html

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The US is striking targets across Syria, and it isn't the only one dropping bombs in this uncertain moment (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 11 OP
The US is targeting IS held spaces. speak easy Dec 11 #1
Wrong again. Jit423 Dec 11 #2
Yup and Iran will be next peregrinus Dec 11 #3
It does seem that the Oct. 6, 2023 attacks have spectacularly backfired on Hamas, Iran, Hezbollah and kelly1mm Dec 11 #4
Israel will occupy Iran after occupying Syria? maxsolomon Dec 11 #6
"Israel lovers" ? Please, do speak more plainly, peregrinus. Tell us what you really think. Hekate Dec 11 #7
Well, we already know what the genocide apologists think. canuckledragger Dec 11 #9
You have anybody in particular in mind that you want to call out by name? Hekate Dec 11 #11
They know who they are. canuckledragger Dec 11 #12
Be specific Hekate Dec 11 #13
Specifically, they make excuses for Bibi's genocide. canuckledragger Dec 11 #14
Yuh-huh Hekate Dec 11 #16
Whats "wrong again"? maxsolomon Dec 11 #5
Yup. Remember "A Clean Break"? - PNAC 1996 AloeVera Dec 11 #15
We have a new definition of genocide AND ethnic cleansing, ladies and gentlemen! Beastly Boy Dec 11 #18
What the HELL are you talking about? AloeVera Dec 11 #19
You got it absolutely right. Yo said not a single word about Beastly Boy Dec 12 #20
Same shit different day malaise Dec 11 #8
This coordinated free-for-all makes me wonder why Blue_Tires Dec 11 #10
Trump has stated that "Syria is not our friend"... AntiFascist Dec 11 #17
By agreement, US forces will be leaving Iraq in 2025. An anti-ISIS contingent remains in Northern Syria. C0RI0LANUS Dec 12 #21
Americans are sick to death of their Pro War Government Brenda Dec 12 #22
"Fewer Americans willing to fight and die for other countries" (Per 'Responsible Statecraft') C0RI0LANUS Dec 12 #23

Jit423

(429 posts)
2. Wrong again.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 06:48 PM
Dec 11

What assets do we have in Syria? this is just more softening of the ground for Israeli occupation. Wait for it. The PNAC wet dream comes to a successful end.

kelly1mm

(5,413 posts)
4. It does seem that the Oct. 6, 2023 attacks have spectacularly backfired on Hamas, Iran, Hezbollah and
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:01 PM
Dec 11

now Syria. Winners thus far seem to be Israel and Turkey.

Hekate

(95,287 posts)
7. "Israel lovers" ? Please, do speak more plainly, peregrinus. Tell us what you really think.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:11 PM
Dec 11
 

canuckledragger

(1,992 posts)
14. Specifically, they make excuses for Bibi's genocide.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 08:35 PM
Dec 11

And don't like it when this is specifically pointed out.

maxsolomon

(35,358 posts)
5. Whats "wrong again"?
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 07:01 PM
Dec 11

We're NOT targeting ISIL? We don't have "assets" in Syria? We support the Kurds that hold the NE of the country across the Eurphrates - they're our "assets".

R.e. an Israeli Occupation of Syria: that's absurd. Ridiculous.

AloeVera

(2,010 posts)
15. Yup. Remember "A Clean Break"? - PNAC 1996
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 08:38 PM
Dec 11

A clean break from Oslo/Peace, combined with going on the offensive in the region. A key part of the plan was removing Saddam and weakening and even "rolling back" Syria. The goals were to preserve access to oil and helping Israel rid itself of the "Palestinian problem". So here we are.

There is nothing left now to stop the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestine. The West won't do it as we've seen.

And Syria and its poor people? They can kiss their current state goodbye, it will be balkanized, divided among "greater powers" and its resources plundered. What is going on now is to ensure that it will never, ever be able to defend itself again or present any military threat to hold Israel's expansionism and brutality towards Palestinians in check.





Beastly Boy

(11,309 posts)
18. We have a new definition of genocide AND ethnic cleansing, ladies and gentlemen!
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:01 PM
Dec 11

It’s when ISIS-affiliated rebels topple the most brutal dictator in all of Middle East, ending a 12 year old civil war in Syria, and that dictator flees to Russia while Israel destroys his entire army which Iran no longer finances.

Pay attention now, this is what is called both genocide and ethnic cleansing, and Israel is at fault, naturally.

Nothing is too ridiculous as long as some people get to scream “genocide!” and “Israel” in the same sentence…

&t=4s

AloeVera

(2,010 posts)
19. What the HELL are you talking about?
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:16 PM
Dec 11

Please don't answer.

I said no such thing and you know it.

Why do you continue to twist my words into some absurd, nonsensical accusation having no relation to what I actually said??

Some self-reflection might be in order, though long overdue.

Wish you good luck with that! Too-da-loo!

Beastly Boy

(11,309 posts)
20. You got it absolutely right. Yo said not a single word about
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:36 AM
Dec 12

ISIS-affiliated rebels toppling the most brutal dictator in all of Middle East, ending a 12 year old civil war in Syria, or Syria’s Assad receiving asylum in Russia, or Israel destroying his army, or Iran propping up Assad’s regime for the twelve years of brutal civil war in Syria, with hundreds of thousands civilian casualties and nearly a million Syrians fleeing the country.

You said no such thing. Not a single word of it. And that’s a shame.

The only thing that you managed to take out of these devastating events that involve many diverse parties in a regional geo-political struggle is the usual: a couple of trigger words to get riled about.

BLUCHER!… I mean GENOCIDE! ETHNIC CLEANSING! ISRAEL!

As predictable as it is pathetic.

Blue_Tires

(56,730 posts)
10. This coordinated free-for-all makes me wonder why
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 08:25 PM
Dec 11

we didn't just take out Assad back in 2012 or whatever....

AntiFascist

(12,976 posts)
17. Trump has stated that "Syria is not our friend"...
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 08:52 PM
Dec 11

this opinion is obviously based in his Islamophobia. Western media is freely moving about Damascus showing people celebrating and flashing peace signs everywhere.

The US and particularly Israel need to be very careful not to stir up hatred against either, otherwise we may end up with another Islamic state hating us.

C0RI0LANUS

(1,862 posts)
21. By agreement, US forces will be leaving Iraq in 2025. An anti-ISIS contingent remains in Northern Syria.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:52 AM
Dec 12
The 2023 map maker uses a soldier avatar, but US forces include USAF and USN personnel and assets. Qatar is home to USCENTCOM and Bahrain is home to the 5th Fleet; hence the large numbers you see.



Sources:

https://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOM-AOR/Qatar/

https://apnews.com/article/iraq-us-troops-military-withdrawal-iran-a79aa83dca8f776f87a138bfe5697fa3

https://cnreurafcent.cnic.navy.mil/Installations/NSA-Bahrain/

Brenda

(1,355 posts)
22. Americans are sick to death of their Pro War Government
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:13 AM
Dec 12

We can't fucking afford to be "the world's police force" or whatever quaint justification is currently being used.

C0RI0LANUS

(1,862 posts)
23. "Fewer Americans willing to fight and die for other countries" (Per 'Responsible Statecraft')
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:44 AM
Dec 12

Last edited Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:23 AM - Edit history (1)

A July poll shows that a majority of the American public does not support sending U.S. troops to defend Taiwan or Ukraine, sentiment that lines up with findings from other recent surveys on these heated subjects, which suggests that Americans appear to be warming to restraint and non-interventionism in international affairs.

Indeed, another poll, conducted by the Chicago Council on Global Affairs in February found that a majority of Americans (56%) do not believe that the United States should pick a side in Israel’s war on Gaza. And a more recent survey from Council this month found that just four in ten support the United States sending troops to defend Israel if attacked by its neighbors.


Source:

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/america-polling-interventionism/

Democrats should heed this message for future elections.




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