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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'Krista Monroe, a former UnitedHealthcare employee who says she worked under CEO Brian Thompson
in the Medicare department, shared a scathing account of the companys internal practices in a now-viral video. Monroe alleges that the companys policies were designed to maximize profits at the expense of patients, particularly the elderly. Her experience shines a light on how insurance companies exploit systemic flaws to deny essential care and leave patients struggling to survive.
They would deny almost everything immediately, right, with very little to valid reason, Monroe revealed in her video. A lot of it was they banked on the fact that a lot of people were elderly, and if they made the process difficult enough, they would just say screw it and either pay for it or not get the service.'
https://polinews.org/apparent-employee-of-united-healthcare-shares-her-experience-working-for-ceo-brian-thompson-in-medicare-department/?
Passages
(1,381 posts)Like your life.
soandso
(1,631 posts)And if you're old or very sick it's often just to stressful to fight with them, which they know.
Meowmee
(6,011 posts)Thanks for posting this I will watch it later. Older people especially are treated horrifically in this system.
allegorical oracle
(3,323 posts)sakabatou
(43,212 posts)Tell us something we don't know!
tenderfoot
(8,879 posts)eom
Passages
(1,381 posts)Interesting a MAGA would expose such a thing.
johnnyfins
(1,459 posts)Get them and everyone is as crooked as they are. They see boogeymen around every corner.
Passages
(1,381 posts)As a group, they tend to freak out over liberties for people they don't understand.
She understands this corporation is manipulating people and it is wrong.
Hope springs eternal.
rampartd
(719 posts)LastDemocratInSC
(3,859 posts)rampartd
(719 posts)and i don't consider crossing a border to work to be a crime, since there is no "criminal intent"
Captain Zero
(7,550 posts)Looks like that's legal.
whathehell
(29,854 posts)a particular country.
elleng
(136,689 posts)tenderfoot
(8,879 posts)click that and you'll see.
Having said, she's correct on this one issue.
elleng
(136,689 posts)Irish_Dem
(59,156 posts)Insurance companies know it.
rampartd
(719 posts)whathehell
(29,854 posts)Lawyers are nowhere NEAR as rich as the upper echelon of the health insurance industry. Another difference between them is that lawyers are NEEDED...For Profit Health Insurance is NOT needed.
chouchou
(1,387 posts)..Health Care Industry, you'd understand what a disgusting dark (sometimes) realities that they have to put-up-with.
DFW
(56,776 posts)We just couldn't afford having our people get sick and having no means to get care. Our HR figured out the problem pretty quickly. We told United adios a long time ago.
If you still read, get John Grishams The Rainmaker. His fictional evil health insurance company, Great Benefit, could have been taken from United Health Care. If it wasnt, maybe some cynical board member of UHC read Grishams novel, and said, hey, this could work for real!
elleng
(136,689 posts)Baron2024
(251 posts)Protecting the weak, the sick, and the elderly against predators. Also to protect the people in general. I am in favor of a healthy Private Sector, but we also need a strong and robust Public Sector/Government to protect the people against outsized corporate power and corruption.
Corporations have a right to reasonable profits if they provide useful goods or services. No corporations should have a right to profit from the suffering or death of the people, which is part of how many of these For Profit Health Insurance schemes operate. It is the same thing when a company pollutes the air, land, or water. We need good government to keep corporate corruption under control.
The average citizen can not stand up against a large corporation. The average citizen needs the power of good government on their side. Unfortunately this is a pipe dream for now, as the Trump MAGA Regime is about to take over. The MAGAs, the Billionaires and the Christian Nationalists have fully taken over the Government. We are in for some dark times, but we must continue to resist. Anyway, thanks for posting this article. Corporate corruption must be exposed wherever it can be.
Irish_Dem
(59,156 posts)These concepts are no longer American values.
The Unmitigated Gall
(4,596 posts)Let's all go back now, to the days when a can of stew could either feed your family or kill everyone who ate it.
Renew Deal
(83,021 posts)elleng
(136,689 posts)dalton99a
(84,772 posts)cadoman
(952 posts)They know the threshold of paperwork and nuisance where people will give up.
People give me weird looks but I turn down most warranties and insurance and try to keep a good savings buffer instead. When I'm my own insurance I can act immediately when something goes wrong, shop anywhere I want, repair as I see fit, lose receipts without having a panic attack, and spend zero time faxing documents or sending certified mail.
And with insurance being so overpriced, it's easy to convert insurance $$$ into savings $$$.
dalton99a
(84,772 posts)mitch96
(14,742 posts)done a scan on a few days before. She said he had an "unfortunate outcome"
me thinking "WTF does that mean..." so I asked what she meant. She leaned over and said in a low voice
"he died" ...jeeze can't say dead or died or dying in a hospital setting??
weird..
m
LiberalArkie
(16,614 posts)Unalive is a dead person. John Doe became unalive this morning when he crashed his car.
markodochartaigh
(2,221 posts)lot of it was they banked on the fact that a lot of people were elderly..."
Elderly and sick.
The insurance companies are banking on the fact that, without the treatment that the health insurance companies are denying, the elderly will die before the insurance companies can be forced to cover the treatments.
This is a death panel.
When Republicans speak, listen to them. The most effective lie contains a grain of truth.
dalton99a
(84,772 posts)dlk
(12,466 posts)Insurers bank on patients not asserting their rights.
In todays healthcare environment, everyone needs to be their own advocate, when they can.
dalton99a
(84,772 posts)Insurance companies know this very well
This knowledge is baked in.
UTUSN
(72,628 posts)dlk
(12,466 posts)Insurers bank on patients not asserting their rights.
In todays healthcare environment, everyone needs to be their own advocate, when they can.
Takket
(22,635 posts)Last edited Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:48 AM - Edit history (1)
Yeah. He's a CEO. He didn't get his job by convincing the board of directors that he'd approve every procedure even if it meant running the company into bankruptcy.
I'm not going to shed any tears for him considering the immorality of his life.
That being said, people get what they vote for. If you hate this dude, and his company, then elect people who will do something about it, or shut up. We have a clear answer in single payer, where the insurance company, that is completely unnecessary to the medical process, is cut out of the equation. Democrats know this (most of them anyway). Rethugs do not.
So to all of America.................. if you are sick of this shit, vote Democrat. Otherwise, shut up and pay your premiums, because if you aren't voting Democrat, than you have nothing to complain about.
Quixote1818
(30,417 posts)Skittles
(160,142 posts)it's just a matter of degree
Diraven
(1,079 posts)I have a chronic degenerative spine condition and every single spine-related claim they deny because they think my car insurance should pay it. I was never injured in any car accident. This has been going on for at least 5 years. I can always clear it up by speaking with someone there on the phone but it's silly they make me do this every time when they have all my medical records.
question everything
(49,003 posts)Skittles
(160,142 posts)why do you stay with them?
Gruenemann
(1,040 posts)As a retired state employee, my insurance is chosen by the state retirement system, and it's UHC. It probably comes as no surprise this is in Texas.
They wouldn't cover my shingles vaccination yesterday, but Medicare did.
Skittles
(160,142 posts)it's just plain wrong
Diraven
(1,079 posts)They chosen UHC for me.
Quixote1818
(30,417 posts)H2O Man
(75,756 posts)Very important. Thank you for sharing this with us.
onecaliberal
(36,227 posts)Nevermind, this kind is murder is legal and everyone is good with it.
orleans
(35,177 posts)the video has a date of dec 10 and i scrolled for way too long (apparently this maga is posting and reposting every fucking minute of every day) and eventually made my way down to dec 7 without seeing the original video
i don't think she is the same person that is in the video. if it is the same person then she is referring to herself as "she" and "someone" and it doesn't look to be the same woman when you look at her profile pic
i like the video but she, krista, overall, is quite a disease
a reply : "but illegals are covered"
monroe: "so infuriating!"
Link to tweet
elleng
(136,689 posts)stollen
(585 posts)Got it.
nolabear
(43,276 posts)Weve been fighting to get a procedure I truly need covered for almost two years. Its been an insane mishmash of needing copious diagnoses and treatments tried and on and on from me, and just stretching out the paperwork until communication inevitably breaks down. Im grateful to my doc for putting up with them this far. Its insane.
AntiFascist
(12,952 posts)I happen to have worked with one of the founders of a health insurance company that was ultimately taken over by the UHC Group. It was, at one time, very socially progressive and benefitted the underprivileged in the urban area of Philadelphia. To see that the parent company has resorted to these tactics is an indictment of the for-profit nature of health insurance in general. Perhaps this industry should be limited to non-profit companies.
Klarkashton
(2,264 posts)Shithead getting snuffed.
elleng
(136,689 posts)Sorry.
malaise
(278,612 posts)and all the politicians get free health cRe
spooky3
(36,359 posts)To that of many LARGE private employers. Of course small companies have generally less generous packages, and a lot of people work for these smaller companies.
https://www.congressionalinstitute.org/2018/09/27/busting-congressional-myths/
Hotler
(12,350 posts)Votes can only be used every 2-4 years, consumers dollars can be used or not used 24/7-365.
Bluethroughu
(5,896 posts)I'm writing a personal letter to each person.
My kids are adults so this works.
Felicita
(39 posts)so the 4th quarter under Biden is strong and drops dramatically in Jan.? Otherwise, they will blame Biden. On the other hand, they will blame Biden anyway...
Bluethroughu
(5,896 posts)I think he was the best President in my lifetime.
Bluethroughu
(5,896 posts)These disgusting companies, need to be shut down! The boards that approve this need to ALL, AS PEOPLE OF THE CORPORATION, be charged with FIRST DEGREE MURDER, IT IS PREMEDITATED.
ecstatic
(34,490 posts)She handles calls from providers. I was horrified by what she described. It sounds like their system is either accidentally or intentionally flawed in a way that produces a lot of claim denials. However, if the provider follows up, the denials are reversed. But sometimes the providers are not following up until 18 months to 2 years later, if ever. If your doctor submits a claim incorrectly or not at all and then comes after you to pay the full amount, that can also be an issue as well.
ThePartyThatListens
(200 posts)To understand what's going on in this shared cultural moment here.
We know who the bad guys are.
That said, excellent post OP. Thank you.
Martin68
(24,688 posts)When the entire system - the insurance companies, the doctors, the judicial system and the government - fail to protect the innocent and the vulnerable, something has to give. The system has failed millions of Americans. That said, I blame the Republican Party and MAGA for defending and protecting this for-profit system, and blocked every attempt by the Democratic Party to improve it. We only got Obamacare by the skin of our teeth, and they spent most of Trumps' first term trying to repeal it instead of improve it. The GOP fought tooth and nail to prevent negotiation by the government with drug providers to lower costs the are higher than anyplace else in the world.
Be The Light
(56 posts)Group Health Cooperative in Wisconsin. It has just been excellent. Anything at all they can't handle they just send me to a specialist no questions asked.
All health care should be like that!