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elleng

(136,689 posts)
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:01 PM Wednesday

'Krista Monroe, a former UnitedHealthcare employee who says she worked under CEO Brian Thompson

in the Medicare department, shared a scathing account of the company’s internal practices in a now-viral video. Monroe alleges that the company’s policies were designed to maximize profits at the expense of patients, particularly the elderly. Her experience shines a light on how insurance companies exploit systemic flaws to deny essential care and leave patients struggling to survive.

“They would deny almost everything immediately, right, with very little to valid reason,” Monroe revealed in her video. “A lot of it was they banked on the fact that a lot of people were elderly, and if they made the process difficult enough, they would just say screw it and either pay for it or not get the service.”'

https://polinews.org/apparent-employee-of-united-healthcare-shares-her-experience-working-for-ceo-brian-thompson-in-medicare-department/?

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'Krista Monroe, a former UnitedHealthcare employee who says she worked under CEO Brian Thompson (Original Post) elleng Wednesday OP
For profit at just about any cost. Passages Wednesday #1
Bastards soandso Wednesday #2
Sadly this is the case for the way many insurers treat everyone, not just uhc- the more hurdles the better Meowmee Wednesday #3
And not just health insurers. Property and auto insurance companies do it, too. nt allegorical oracle Thursday #60
"The company's policies were designed to maximize profits at the expense of patients" sakabatou Wednesday #4
The woman that posted the rant is MAGA and the responses assert that illegals are covered tenderfoot Wednesday #5
She seems to think the essence of the policies hurt the consumer. Passages Wednesday #7
Why? Their view is that everyone is out to johnnyfins Thursday #62
Not like this one, not imo. Passages Thursday #64
covering illegals under medicare, even part c would be illegal rampartd Wednesday #9
People are not illegal. Certain acts committed by people are illegal. LastDemocratInSC Thursday #42
thanks rampartd Thursday #48
Profiteering in the healthcare business? Captain Zero Thursday #59
No, but their status may be illegal in whathehell Thursday #69
You learned this where? How? elleng Wednesday #11
The article you posted included her tweet tenderfoot Wednesday #13
Thanks. elleng Wednesday #17
It is very difficult to fight insurance companies, the old and sick cannot do it. Irish_Dem Wednesday #6
anothetr saystem designed to enrich lawyers. rampartd Wednesday #10
Designed to enrich For Profit Health Insurers. whathehell Thursday #61
+1 dalton99a Wednesday #18
I hesitate to make it worse but, if you've ever known a few people who work in the... chouchou Wednesday #8
Their denying everything is why my outfit ditched them many years ago DFW Wednesday #12
Good to hear! elleng Wednesday #16
This Is What Government Is Supposed To Be For Baron2024 Wednesday #14
Public service and the common good is no longer in style. Irish_Dem Wednesday #21
A deep lesson a lot of people are going to be learning very soon. The Unmitigated Gall Wednesday #34
Here is the video Renew Deal Wednesday #15
Thanks elleng Wednesday #19
+1 dalton99a Wednesday #20
a lot of insurance and warranties work this way cadoman Wednesday #22
"Unalived" is TikTok slang for dead dalton99a Wednesday #23
" "Unalived" is TikTok slang for dead".... I love "new speak" Once I asked a nurse how this patient was that I had mitch96 Thursday #68
Unalived really means killed. John Doe was made unalived. LiberalArkie Thursday #72
"A markodochartaigh Wednesday #24
+1 dalton99a Thursday #37
Any healthcare insurance company decision can be appealed dlk Wednesday #25
Something the weak and old cannot do easily. dalton99a Wednesday #28
Of course dlk Thursday #51
Sounds like the Veterans Administration UTUSN Wednesday #26
Any healthcare insurance company decision can be appealed dlk Wednesday #27
you know, i'm getting a little annoyed at the "what a jerk this guy is" stories Takket Wednesday #29
She talked mostly about the company and not the guy who was killed. nt Quixote1818 Wednesday #32
they're all bad Skittles Thursday #44
I'm on United Health and they deny most of my claims Diraven Wednesday #30
Can the office of your state attorney general help? question everything Thursday #40
I have to ask Skittles Thursday #43
Some of us do not have a choice Gruenemann Thursday #58
yup, giving people no choice is part of the efforts to privatize everything Skittles Thursday #70
I'm a state employee too Diraven Thursday #74
The legal way of holding a gun to someones head and firing. nt Quixote1818 Wednesday #31
Recommended. H2O Man Wednesday #33
Haven't you heard, murder is wrong. onecaliberal Thursday #35
the twitter link to krista monroe says she is a christian & maga & her feed is filled with hate for dems orleans Thursday #36
NATURALLY a christian! elleng Thursday #47
So it's a death panel stollen Thursday #38
That's been my experience with UHC. nolabear Thursday #39
This is very sad for me... AntiFascist Thursday #41
We are supposed to all feel guilty for smiling about that Klarkashton Thursday #45
'Supposed to feel' isn't a thing. elleng Thursday #46
Duh! malaise Thursday #49
At one time, but that has changed. Their benefits look similar spooky3 Thursday #54
Thanks malaise Thursday #55
YW spooky3 Thursday #56
We only have two tools to fight with, our votes and our consumer dollars. Hotler Thursday #50
Not buying anything, no Christmas presents this year. Bluethroughu Thursday #53
Don't we want to wait until Jan.1st to boycott Felicita Thursday #63
He'll will be blamed for everything. Bluethroughu Thursday #65
The lady in the video, just wanted to do what a customer service person is to do. Bluethroughu Thursday #52
A friend of mine works there ecstatic Thursday #57
Anyone w/an ounce of sense didn't need to see her testimony ThePartyThatListens Thursday #66
There is a reason a lot of us have mixed feelings about the murder of this murderous CEO. Martin68 Thursday #67
I've been with an HMO for 50 years Be The Light Thursday #71
The Banality of Evil exist by the letter in this PHI Corps uponit7771 Thursday #73
 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
2. Bastards
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:03 PM
Wednesday

And if you're old or very sick it's often just to stressful to fight with them, which they know.

Meowmee

(6,011 posts)
3. Sadly this is the case for the way many insurers treat everyone, not just uhc- the more hurdles the better
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:03 PM
Wednesday

Thanks for posting this I will watch it later. Older people especially are treated horrifically in this system.

sakabatou

(43,212 posts)
4. "The company's policies were designed to maximize profits at the expense of patients"
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:04 PM
Wednesday

Tell us something we don't know!

 

tenderfoot

(8,879 posts)
5. The woman that posted the rant is MAGA and the responses assert that illegals are covered
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:06 PM
Wednesday

eom

Passages

(1,381 posts)
7. She seems to think the essence of the policies hurt the consumer.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:14 PM
Wednesday

Interesting a MAGA would expose such a thing.

johnnyfins

(1,459 posts)
62. Why? Their view is that everyone is out to
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 01:15 PM
Thursday

Get them and everyone is as crooked as they are. They see boogeymen around every corner.

Passages

(1,381 posts)
64. Not like this one, not imo.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 02:47 PM
Thursday

As a group, they tend to freak out over liberties for people they don't understand.

She understands this corporation is manipulating people and it is wrong.

Hope springs eternal.

rampartd

(719 posts)
48. thanks
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:49 AM
Thursday

and i don't consider crossing a border to work to be a crime, since there is no "criminal intent"

 

tenderfoot

(8,879 posts)
13. The article you posted included her tweet
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:23 PM
Wednesday

click that and you'll see.

Having said, she's correct on this one issue.

Irish_Dem

(59,156 posts)
6. It is very difficult to fight insurance companies, the old and sick cannot do it.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:10 PM
Wednesday

Insurance companies know it.

whathehell

(29,854 posts)
61. Designed to enrich For Profit Health Insurers.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:03 PM
Thursday

Lawyers are nowhere NEAR as rich as the upper echelon of the health insurance industry. Another difference between them is that lawyers are NEEDED...For Profit Health Insurance is NOT needed.

chouchou

(1,387 posts)
8. I hesitate to make it worse but, if you've ever known a few people who work in the...
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:18 PM
Wednesday

..Health Care Industry, you'd understand what a disgusting dark (sometimes) realities that they have to put-up-with.

DFW

(56,776 posts)
12. Their denying everything is why my outfit ditched them many years ago
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:22 PM
Wednesday

We just couldn't afford having our people get sick and having no means to get care. Our HR figured out the problem pretty quickly. We told United adios a long time ago.

If you still read, get John Grisham’s “The Rainmaker.” His fictional evil health insurance company, “Great Benefit,” could have been taken from United Health Care. If it wasn’t, maybe some cynical board member of UHC read Grisham’s novel, and said, “hey, this could work for real!”

Baron2024

(251 posts)
14. This Is What Government Is Supposed To Be For
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:24 PM
Wednesday

Protecting the weak, the sick, and the elderly against predators. Also to protect the people in general. I am in favor of a healthy Private Sector, but we also need a strong and robust Public Sector/Government to protect the people against outsized corporate power and corruption.

Corporations have a right to reasonable profits if they provide useful goods or services. No corporations should have a right to profit from the suffering or death of the people, which is part of how many of these For Profit Health Insurance schemes operate. It is the same thing when a company pollutes the air, land, or water. We need good government to keep corporate corruption under control.

The average citizen can not stand up against a large corporation. The average citizen needs the power of good government on their side. Unfortunately this is a pipe dream for now, as the Trump MAGA Regime is about to take over. The MAGAs, the Billionaires and the Christian Nationalists have fully taken over the Government. We are in for some dark times, but we must continue to resist. Anyway, thanks for posting this article. Corporate corruption must be exposed wherever it can be.

Irish_Dem

(59,156 posts)
21. Public service and the common good is no longer in style.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:52 PM
Wednesday

These concepts are no longer American values.

The Unmitigated Gall

(4,596 posts)
34. A deep lesson a lot of people are going to be learning very soon.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 11:59 PM
Wednesday

Let's all go back now, to the days when a can of stew could either feed your family or kill everyone who ate it.

cadoman

(952 posts)
22. a lot of insurance and warranties work this way
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 10:54 PM
Wednesday

They know the threshold of paperwork and nuisance where people will give up.

People give me weird looks but I turn down most warranties and insurance and try to keep a good savings buffer instead. When I'm my own insurance I can act immediately when something goes wrong, shop anywhere I want, repair as I see fit, lose receipts without having a panic attack, and spend zero time faxing documents or sending certified mail.

And with insurance being so overpriced, it's easy to convert insurance $$$ into savings $$$.

mitch96

(14,742 posts)
68. " "Unalived" is TikTok slang for dead".... I love "new speak" Once I asked a nurse how this patient was that I had
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 04:25 PM
Thursday

done a scan on a few days before. She said he had an "unfortunate outcome"
me thinking "WTF does that mean..." so I asked what she meant. She leaned over and said in a low voice
"he died" ...jeeze can't say dead or died or dying in a hospital setting??
weird..
m

LiberalArkie

(16,614 posts)
72. Unalived really means killed. John Doe was made unalived.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:00 PM
Thursday

Unalive is a dead person. John Doe became unalive this morning when he crashed his car.

markodochartaigh

(2,221 posts)
24. "A
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 11:19 PM
Wednesday

lot of it was they banked on the fact that a lot of people were elderly..."


Elderly and sick.

The insurance companies are banking on the fact that, without the treatment that the health insurance companies are denying, the elderly will die before the insurance companies can be forced to cover the treatments.

This is a death panel.

When Republicans speak, listen to them. The most effective lie contains a grain of truth.

dlk

(12,466 posts)
25. Any healthcare insurance company decision can be appealed
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 11:20 PM
Wednesday

Insurers bank on patients not asserting their rights.

In today’s healthcare environment, everyone needs to be their own advocate, when they can.

dalton99a

(84,772 posts)
28. Something the weak and old cannot do easily.
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 11:28 PM
Wednesday

Insurance companies know this very well


dlk

(12,466 posts)
27. Any healthcare insurance company decision can be appealed
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 11:25 PM
Wednesday

Insurers bank on patients not asserting their rights.

In today’s healthcare environment, everyone needs to be their own advocate, when they can.

Takket

(22,635 posts)
29. you know, i'm getting a little annoyed at the "what a jerk this guy is" stories
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 11:35 PM
Wednesday

Last edited Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:48 AM - Edit history (1)

Yeah. He's a CEO. He didn't get his job by convincing the board of directors that he'd approve every procedure even if it meant running the company into bankruptcy.

I'm not going to shed any tears for him considering the immorality of his life.

That being said, people get what they vote for. If you hate this dude, and his company, then elect people who will do something about it, or shut up. We have a clear answer in single payer, where the insurance company, that is completely unnecessary to the medical process, is cut out of the equation. Democrats know this (most of them anyway). Rethugs do not.

So to all of America.................. if you are sick of this shit, vote Democrat. Otherwise, shut up and pay your premiums, because if you aren't voting Democrat, than you have nothing to complain about.

Diraven

(1,079 posts)
30. I'm on United Health and they deny most of my claims
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 11:54 PM
Wednesday

I have a chronic degenerative spine condition and every single spine-related claim they deny because they think my car insurance should pay it. I was never injured in any car accident. This has been going on for at least 5 years. I can always clear it up by speaking with someone there on the phone but it's silly they make me do this every time when they have all my medical records.

Gruenemann

(1,040 posts)
58. Some of us do not have a choice
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:13 AM
Thursday

As a retired state employee, my insurance is chosen by the state retirement system, and it's UHC. It probably comes as no surprise this is in Texas.

They wouldn't cover my shingles vaccination yesterday, but Medicare did.

Skittles

(160,142 posts)
70. yup, giving people no choice is part of the efforts to privatize everything
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:05 PM
Thursday

it's just plain wrong

onecaliberal

(36,227 posts)
35. Haven't you heard, murder is wrong.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:07 AM
Thursday

Nevermind, this kind is murder is legal and everyone is good with it.

orleans

(35,177 posts)
36. the twitter link to krista monroe says she is a christian & maga & her feed is filled with hate for dems
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:13 AM
Thursday

the video has a date of dec 10 and i scrolled for way too long (apparently this maga is posting and reposting every fucking minute of every day) and eventually made my way down to dec 7 without seeing the original video

i don't think she is the same person that is in the video. if it is the same person then she is referring to herself as "she" and "someone" and it doesn't look to be the same woman when you look at her profile pic

i like the video but she, krista, overall, is quite a disease

a reply : "but illegals are covered"
monroe: "so infuriating!"



nolabear

(43,276 posts)
39. That's been my experience with UHC.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:22 AM
Thursday

We’ve been fighting to get a procedure I truly need covered for almost two years. It’s been an insane mishmash of needing copious diagnoses and treatments tried and on and on from me, and just stretching out the paperwork until communication inevitably breaks down. I’m grateful to my doc for putting up with them this far. It’s insane.

AntiFascist

(12,952 posts)
41. This is very sad for me...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:36 AM
Thursday

I happen to have worked with one of the founders of a health insurance company that was ultimately taken over by the UHC Group. It was, at one time, very socially progressive and benefitted the underprivileged in the urban area of Philadelphia. To see that the parent company has resorted to these tactics is an indictment of the for-profit nature of health insurance in general. Perhaps this industry should be limited to non-profit companies.

spooky3

(36,359 posts)
54. At one time, but that has changed. Their benefits look similar
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:38 AM
Thursday

To that of many LARGE private employers. Of course small companies have generally less generous packages, and a lot of people work for these smaller companies.

https://www.congressionalinstitute.org/2018/09/27/busting-congressional-myths/

Hotler

(12,350 posts)
50. We only have two tools to fight with, our votes and our consumer dollars.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:12 AM
Thursday

Votes can only be used every 2-4 years, consumers dollars can be used or not used 24/7-365.

Bluethroughu

(5,896 posts)
53. Not buying anything, no Christmas presents this year.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:36 AM
Thursday

I'm writing a personal letter to each person.

My kids are adults so this works.

Felicita

(39 posts)
63. Don't we want to wait until Jan.1st to boycott
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 01:33 PM
Thursday

so the 4th quarter under Biden is strong and drops dramatically in Jan.? Otherwise, they will blame Biden. On the other hand, they will blame Biden anyway...

Bluethroughu

(5,896 posts)
52. The lady in the video, just wanted to do what a customer service person is to do.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:25 AM
Thursday

These disgusting companies, need to be shut down! The boards that approve this need to ALL, AS PEOPLE OF THE CORPORATION, be charged with FIRST DEGREE MURDER, IT IS PREMEDITATED.

ecstatic

(34,490 posts)
57. A friend of mine works there
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:54 AM
Thursday

She handles calls from providers. I was horrified by what she described. It sounds like their system is either accidentally or intentionally flawed in a way that produces a lot of claim denials. However, if the provider follows up, the denials are reversed. But sometimes the providers are not following up until 18 months to 2 years later, if ever. If your doctor submits a claim incorrectly or not at all and then comes after you to pay the full amount, that can also be an issue as well.

66. Anyone w/an ounce of sense didn't need to see her testimony
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 03:13 PM
Thursday

To understand what's going on in this shared cultural moment here.

We know who the bad guys are.

That said, excellent post OP. Thank you.

Martin68

(24,688 posts)
67. There is a reason a lot of us have mixed feelings about the murder of this murderous CEO.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 03:14 PM
Thursday

When the entire system - the insurance companies, the doctors, the judicial system and the government - fail to protect the innocent and the vulnerable, something has to give. The system has failed millions of Americans. That said, I blame the Republican Party and MAGA for defending and protecting this for-profit system, and blocked every attempt by the Democratic Party to improve it. We only got Obamacare by the skin of our teeth, and they spent most of Trumps' first term trying to repeal it instead of improve it. The GOP fought tooth and nail to prevent negotiation by the government with drug providers to lower costs the are higher than anyplace else in the world.

Be The Light

(56 posts)
71. I've been with an HMO for 50 years
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:39 PM
Thursday

Group Health Cooperative in Wisconsin. It has just been excellent. Anything at all they can't handle they just send me to a specialist no questions asked.

All health care should be like that!

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