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WhiskeyGrinder

(24,055 posts)
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:44 AM Thursday

Death feels imminent for 96% of children in Gaza, study finds

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/11/death-feels-imminent-for-96-of-children-in-gaza-study-finds

A new study of children living through the war in Gaza has found that 96% of them feel that their death is imminent and almost half want to die as a result of the trauma they have been through.

A needs assessment, carried out by a Gaza-based NGO sponsored by the War Child Alliance charity, also found that 92% of the children in the survey were “not accepting of reality”, 79% suffer from nightmares and 73% exhibit symptoms of aggression.

“This report lays bare that Gaza is one of the most horrifying places in the world to be a child,” Helen Pattinson, chief executive of War Child UK, said. “Alongside the levelling of hospitals, schools and homes, a trail of psychological destruction has caused wounds unseen but no less destructive on children who hold no responsibility for this war.”

(snip)

An estimated 17,000 children in Gaza are unaccompanied, separated from their parents, although the study notes the real number may be much higher.
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Death feels imminent for 96% of children in Gaza, study finds (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Thursday OP
Few care malaise Thursday #1
Seeds being sown. nt moniss Thursday #2
Yup. I can claim to hate prunes, but if I eat prunes all day every day , everybody is gonna know about it. Magoo48 Thursday #3
This message was self-deleted by its author LymphocyteLover Thursday #5
They do hate violence Mr.WeRP Thursday #10
What are the odds of MSM covering even one Gaza victim? CoopersDad Thursday #13
An MSNBC host is proud to support the K.I.N.D. program for underprivileged children in Malawi. C0RI0LANUS Thursday #28
"Riots in Amsterdam" OrangeJoe Thursday #14
Utterly heartbreaking... just incomprehensible trauma... failures on so many levels here LymphocyteLover Thursday #4
The excessive deaths of women and children seem calculated to eliminate a Palestinian future. Lonestarblue Thursday #6
There are over 2 million people still in Gaza. maxsolomon Thursday #16
They are currently starving them to death questionseverything Friday #34
2.2 million people will not be starved to death maxsolomon Friday #35
Bibi's got a lot... GiqueCee Thursday #7
During the Iraq War, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld asked: "Are we creating more terrorists than we're killing?" surfered Thursday #8
Another dumb donald. Ya think rummy? Clouds Passing Thursday #12
The answer is yes. Butterflylady Thursday #31
Well, I guess the Muslim Americans shouldn't have given Bibi the green light Mr.WeRP Thursday #9
... Clouds Passing Thursday #11
Death feels imminent for me here in the U.S. Blue_Tires Thursday #15
Just today NYU arrested several faculty members and declared them persona non grata for supporting WhiskeyGrinder Thursday #18
surely now that they got rid of "Genocide Joe," peaceful protests in deep blue cities will usher in a golden age in Gaza thebigidea Thursday #19
I still want to know why they aren't camped out in front of Donnie's mansion Blue_Tires Thursday #22
Because a Dem was in the WH, they knew Dems would hear them, maxsolomon Friday #37
In other words Blue_Tires Friday #40
I think the campus protestors genuinely care about Gaza and believe Israel's war constitutes a Genocide. maxsolomon Friday #41
Their "activism" betrayed the fact that Blue_Tires Friday #43
These children will be traumatized for life dlk Thursday #17
I'm curious why you think Palestinians are vulnerable to this Arazi Thursday #20
Given the level of active terrorist recruiters in the middle east dlk Thursday #24
But many MANY other populations have been similarly terrorized Arazi Thursday #26
What are Hamas and Hezbollah? dlk Thursday #30
Ahhh.... Butterflylady Thursday #32
Shame on all who close their eyes, cover their ears, and turn away. Kid Berwyn Thursday #21
These kids are being murdered, systematically. Greybnk48 Thursday #23
Netanyahu has the blood of tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians on his hands. ProudMNDemocrat Thursday #25
Two centuries ago, the enemy wasn't called terrorist, al Qaida, or Hamas, but Savages or Redskins. C0RI0LANUS Thursday #27
Damn shame ThePartyThatListens Thursday #29
How is the Gaza war "in our name"? maxsolomon Friday #36
Our tax payer dollars are being used for the carnage the Israeli army is unleashing on those children over there ThePartyThatListens Friday #38
I'm quite aware. maxsolomon Friday #39
I don't know how anyone can imagine Crunchy Frog Thursday #33
You need to be an Israeli Nationalist Zealot or an American Evangelical maxsolomon Friday #42

Magoo48

(5,501 posts)
3. Yup. I can claim to hate prunes, but if I eat prunes all day every day , everybody is gonna know about it.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:25 AM
Thursday

Response to Magoo48 (Reply #3)

Mr.WeRP

(648 posts)
10. They do hate violence
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:36 AM
Thursday

When it’s committed against CEOs, millionaires and billionaires. There are plenty here at DU.

CoopersDad

(2,910 posts)
13. What are the odds of MSM covering even one Gaza victim?
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:00 AM
Thursday

The bias is so painfully obvious, I can't stand the inhumanity.

C0RI0LANUS

(1,782 posts)
28. An MSNBC host is proud to support the K.I.N.D. program for underprivileged children in Malawi.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:27 PM
Thursday

"Kids In Need of Desks" is a fine example of Western charity helping poor people in Africa.

Years ago I e-mailed MSNBC if they had such a K.I.N.D. program for underprivileged children in the Gaza Strip. I never got a response. MSNBC had a different email address for comments back then, but this is it today: MSNBCTVinfo@nbcuni.com.

This was just another reason my wife and I stopped watching TV years ago.

Send money for desks in Malawi, MSNBC? These children in Gaza just want to live.

I hope the Democratic Party leadership is paying attention to the anti-war element of our party lest we repeat 1968 and 2024 when millions of progressive Dems simply stayed home on Election Day. And no, they didn't vote for Donald Trumpf or Jill Stein. They merely abstained on 5 Nov.



Link:

https://www.msnbc.com/kindfund

OrangeJoe

(423 posts)
14. "Riots in Amsterdam"
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:34 AM
Thursday

Remember the soccer hooligans from Israel who claimed they were the victims of anti-semitism in Amsterdam? One of their chants was “There are no schools in Gaza because there are no children in Gaza.” What a bunch of ghouls.

Lonestarblue

(11,961 posts)
6. The excessive deaths of women and children seem calculated to eliminate a Palestinian future.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:31 AM
Thursday

Given Trump’s election and his support of Netanyahu, I believe that the total genocide of all Palestinians in Gaza will happen. Only those who are able to somehow get to other countries will survive.

GiqueCee

(1,471 posts)
7. Bibi's got a lot...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 08:34 AM
Thursday

... to answer for. Deliberately targeting schools and hospitals is a war crime, but purposely singling out individual children and killing them – and, yes, it has been reported and documented – is an evil beyond forgiveness.
All this slaughter just to avoid accountability for his corruption says a lot about the man, and ain't none of it good. He is dragging you down into the pits of Hell, Israel, and only you can stop him.

surfered

(3,620 posts)
8. During the Iraq War, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld asked: "Are we creating more terrorists than we're killing?"
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:22 AM
Thursday

Butterflylady

(4,010 posts)
31. The answer is yes.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:13 PM
Thursday

These children are so traumatized by what they seen and gone through. They do have mental health people that are helping but it's not enough.

Mr.WeRP

(648 posts)
9. Well, I guess the Muslim Americans shouldn't have given Bibi the green light
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:35 AM
Thursday

By protest voting against Biden.

Putin strikes again!

Blue_Tires

(56,426 posts)
15. Death feels imminent for me here in the U.S.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:47 AM
Thursday

This is the part where I once again ask what happened to all those Free Gaza protestors blocking bridge traffic and destroying their student union buildings on campus...

WhiskeyGrinder

(24,055 posts)
18. Just today NYU arrested several faculty members and declared them persona non grata for supporting
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 02:10 PM
Thursday

a peaceful student protest going on on campus. A lot of the protests have turned peaceful as some schools have found ways to dial back their responses. So maybe that's why you haven't heard of them -- they're peaceful. Hmmm.

thebigidea

(13,306 posts)
19. surely now that they got rid of "Genocide Joe," peaceful protests in deep blue cities will usher in a golden age in Gaza
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 03:06 PM
Thursday

Blue_Tires

(56,426 posts)
22. I still want to know why they aren't camped out in front of Donnie's mansion
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 05:31 PM
Thursday

Like they camped out in front of Pelosi's house.

Blue_Tires

(56,426 posts)
40. In other words
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:00 PM
Friday

They never really gave a flying fuck about "GENOCIIIIIIIIDE!!" after all -- They were just useful idiots in an op to kneecap Dems in the most consequential election year of our lifetimes... I do feel a little sorry for that gullible Air Force kid who set himself on fire in some half-assed protest, because he now officially died for nothing...

Nobody had better ask me to march, protest or otherwise care about Gaza ever again from here to eternity... I almost hope Kushner follows through on his pledge to pave over Gaza and construct a Trump casino and seaside resort... All those Arab-Americans up in Dearborn will have nobody to blame but their own damn selves...

maxsolomon

(35,298 posts)
41. I think the campus protestors genuinely care about Gaza and believe Israel's war constitutes a Genocide.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:16 PM
Friday

AND they didn't think strategically about what the impact would be on this election. Gaza has been a darling of the campus left for decades. Rachel Corrie died 21 years ago.

They see Gaza in binary terms (as do many on DU), and nothing in I/P is black and white.






Blue_Tires

(56,426 posts)
43. Their "activism" betrayed the fact that
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:29 PM
Friday

They'd never even fucking heard of Gaza, nor could they find it on a map until October 2023... Nor did they try to research and understand how America's alliance with Israel works before breaking all the windows of the student union and throwing out all the furniture and spray painting all the walls... Nevermind the fact that they were oddly quiet about REAL genocides happening in Syria, Darfur and China...

The conflict has been happening on and off since the end of the First World War but now all these screechy idiots are instant self-taught experts. Nevermind the fact that they were openly cheerleading the Oct. 7 attacks on Twitter...

You're definitely right about one thing: They didn't fucking think... But if they could think for themselves they wouldn't be 'useful idiots'

dlk

(12,466 posts)
17. These children will be traumatized for life
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 01:21 PM
Thursday

And vulnerable to being recruited for terrorist activities. It’s senseless.

Arazi

(7,029 posts)
20. I'm curious why you think Palestinians are vulnerable to this
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 03:25 PM
Thursday

Other defeated populations with even more deadly genocides haven’t turned to terrorism.

Didn’t happen in Vietnam, Rwanda, Japan, Germany etc.

This point only gets made regarding Palestinians. What leads you to believe they won’t strive for a peaceful post-war existence and will instead turn to terrorism?

dlk

(12,466 posts)
24. Given the level of active terrorist recruiters in the middle east
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:27 PM
Thursday

It’s not a stretch. It would be the same vulnerability for any group of traumatized children, anywhere. It’s easier for them to go to extremes, religious, political or otherwise.


Arazi

(7,029 posts)
26. But many MANY other populations have been similarly terrorized
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:10 PM
Thursday

Slaughtered. Women and children indiscriminately mutilated and genocided.

Even in recent history with living survivors today like Vietnam, Rwanda, Iraq etc - none of those groups have resorted to unending terroristic jihad post-war against their genocidal oppressors. Rwanda especially has a grim record of active genocide specifically targeting women and kids.

Why does everyone believe this group of kids will turn out murderous?

(I’m going somewhere with this. I’m just curious if you can discern the one thing that’s different here)

*cough antisemitism*

My point being Israel now has an entirely tiresome history with their neighbors stirring up shit (“level of active terrorist recruiters in the middle east”).


dlk

(12,466 posts)
30. What are Hamas and Hezbollah?
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:08 PM
Thursday

You think they don’t have a presence in the Middle East?


The point is these children are damaged through no fault of their own and will never be the same. They need help. I think you missed my point.

Kid Berwyn

(18,254 posts)
21. Shame on all who close their eyes, cover their ears, and turn away.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 03:39 PM
Thursday

To those who are hurting and killing children in Gaza and anywhere in the world, may you reap what you sow in full measure.

Greybnk48

(10,426 posts)
23. These kids are being murdered, systematically.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 05:44 PM
Thursday

Remember when we used to hate that? Especially jewish people.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,143 posts)
25. Netanyahu has the blood of tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians on his hands.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:31 PM
Thursday

And many more from the sounds of it.

May God have mercy on his murderous and miserable soul.

C0RI0LANUS

(1,782 posts)
27. Two centuries ago, the enemy wasn't called terrorist, al Qaida, or Hamas, but Savages or Redskins.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:14 PM
Thursday


The American Indian Wars (1865-1898) resulted in 1,944 total US casualties, including the 1876 Battle of Little Big Horn (AKA Custer's Last Stand). And how did the muqawama do against the US Army?

By the close of the Indian Wars in the late 19th century, fewer than 238,000 Indigenous people remained of the estimated five million-plus living in North America before European contact.


I bet you the children of those Indigenous people in North America felt the same way as Palestinian children in Gaza feel today.



The American taxpayer dollar hard at work: Palestinian children injured in IDF air raids treated at Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis in the southern Gaza Strip, 24 Oct 2023. (Photo: Ahmad Hasaballah / Getty Images)


No wonder Benjamin Netanyahu closed down al-Jazeera and is kicking the UN out of Gaza: Get rid of any and all witnesses.

Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_casualties_of_war

https://www.history.com/news/native-americans-genocide-united-states




maxsolomon

(35,298 posts)
36. How is the Gaza war "in our name"?
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 12:28 PM
Friday

Is the US complicit as Israel's arms suppliers? Sure, but that's not "in our name".

Whose name is it being done in? Yahweh/God/Allah's. As usual.

38. Our tax payer dollars are being used for the carnage the Israeli army is unleashing on those children over there
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 12:56 PM
Friday

Have you been living under a rock all this time?

maxsolomon

(35,298 posts)
39. I'm quite aware.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 01:10 PM
Friday

Israel isn't bombing Hamas targets in Gaza FOR America. The US supplying an ally of 80 years with congressionally approved munitions packages doesn't mean the carnage is happening "in our name". "With our consent", maybe.

Again, look to the God of Abraham if you want to know in whose name the carnage (and that includes 10/7) is being done.

Crunchy Frog

(27,087 posts)
33. I don't know how anyone can imagine
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:29 PM
Thursday

that this is in the best long term interest of Israel. Even setting aside the morality of it.

maxsolomon

(35,298 posts)
42. You need to be an Israeli Nationalist Zealot or an American Evangelical
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:22 PM
Friday

who wants to bring on the 2nd coming to think that. Plenty of those in positions of power.

I know Israel could have taken a different tack in their response to 10/7, but I wasn't surprised at all they responded with military fury. The intent of that atrocity was to bait them into an overreaction - just like OBL intended with 9/11. It works. Action/reaction.

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