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speak easy

(10,704 posts)
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:16 AM Dec 12

The 'Invisible Government' steps out of the shadows

TR Roosevelt, The Progressive Party Platform, 1912

Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.

To destroy this invisible government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.

FDR, Madison Square Garden address, 1936

We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace—business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering.

They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.

Not even J.D. Rockefeller or J.P. Morgan courted the sort of attention that Elon Musk 'enjoys.' Today, Citizen's United has put more money into politics than the worst excesses of the Gilded Age. The incoming Trump Administration wears gross corruption proudly, on its sleeves, shoes, and speed dials. Evil is walking in broad daylight, aided and abetted by unapologic stooges on the Supreme Court.
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EYESORE 9001

(27,618 posts)
1. You mentioned that OG oligarch JD Rock
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:38 AM
Dec 12

His grandson, Nelson Rockefeller, was once a heartbeat away from the presidency. Coincidentally, his own last heartbeat was in the company of one Megan Marshack. Between that little factoid and draconian drug laws in New York, he left few who mourned his passing. The Rockefeller endowments continued in his absence, so not even those orgs missed him. Speaking of rich fucks and charities…what good have the butt monkeys who will comprise rump’s cabinet done to benefit society? More like leeches on the body politic.

FakeNoose

(36,019 posts)
3. Nelson Rockefeller was a good Governor in New York
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:03 AM
Dec 12

I lived in New York during the last couple of years before he was plucked off to Washington to become Gerald Ford's Vice President. For a Republican governor, Rockefeller was progressive and he accomplished good things for the entire state. Rockefeller was more like an Eisenhower-style Republican, who really did get things done. If he had lived to run for President I might have considered voting for him.

patphil

(7,122 posts)
5. Same here. Nelson Rockefeller was a good Governor.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:34 AM
Dec 12

He was nothing like the Republicans of today.

H2O Man

(75,779 posts)
11. One of my uncles
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 01:50 PM
Dec 12

was in charge of his security when he was governor, when he went outside of Albany. Rockefeller was the best republican in the country at the time.

returnee

(333 posts)
13. Do I remember correctly....?
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:40 PM
Dec 12

Didn’t he sign a law making lifetime imprisonment for marijuana crimes?

Bluethroughu

(6,000 posts)
2. Same fight, different century.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:58 AM
Dec 12

Those oligarchs were not arrested then, when Smedley Butler snitched on their seditious plans...and now here we are with no accountability AGAIN, after an insurrection where VFW flags were in the attacking crowd.

We are exposed for our weakness of an inability to administer equal justice for all.

dchill

(40,768 posts)
4. Is it an inability or a cowardability?
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:32 AM
Dec 12

It is, at the very least, an unwillingness to apply the law equally to all. It is an utter shame AND an utter sham. A complete shamesham.

Martin68

(24,735 posts)
6. It was the invisible government that held Trump in check during his first term. Now he has advisors who are determined
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:42 AM
Dec 12

to destroy the part of the government composed of career civil service employees who just do their best to serve the people.

eppur_se_muova

(37,667 posts)
8. It was a different invisible gov't -- one of career professionals, not one of money-grubbing hoarders.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:24 PM
Dec 12

Like the difference between 'white' magic and 'black' magic (kind of un-PC terms for today, I guess, but you'll know what I'm talking about).

orwell

(8,002 posts)
7. Nothing has changed...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:03 PM
Dec 12
We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.

Welcome to Project 2025...

Waldo51

(6 posts)
16. The Oligarchs successfully bought our country
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 10:10 AM
Dec 13

In the last election Elon Musk, Peter Theil and other anti-democracy Trump supporting oligarchs successfully bought our country. They bought it at fire sale prices, just a few billion dollars, that’s chump change to them. All they had to do is get voters to forget 9 years of Trumps past transgressions and convince them he is still their savior and will lower the price of eggs. It was not that hard to do when these voters have been pickled in the brine of right wing propaganda for decades. They shower in it daily, in their homes, in their cars, on their phones AND in their churches. Their lack of critical thinking skills along with their blatant racism and misogyny blinds them into voting, not only against their best interest, but for an authoritarian candidate backed by the same elites they rail against.

Through the years these oligarchs have purchased two thirds of the Supreme Court and half of Congress. Now they own the executive branch and the agencies that manage the very operation of our government. With Trump in place as a self-absorbed authoritarian strongman wannabe, they will implement their plan, behind the scenes, to dismantle or reconfigure these very agencies for their own benefit, eliminating the regulations that help protect us but prevent them from gaining even more money and power. (See Project 2025)

Not to worry, if Trump dies or ends up at the Resolute desk drooling on his happy meal, Vance will be there to continue, if not lead, the dismantling of our government. He is a protégé of Peter Theil and owes his rise in political prominence to Theil as well. What does that tell you?

I am sorry for all of us that will have to endure the bad times when they come, and they will.
But as for the Trump voters, whose crops will rot in the field because their cheap immigrant laborers have all been deported, whose jobs or businesses will be lost due to a trade war, or whose wives and daughters will die from a complication in pregnancy due to of draconian anti-abortion laws. I say to them “pray to your White Christian Nationalist God because I have no fucks left to give. You bought that pony, you ride it.”

This country has some insurmountable problems. Our capitalist economic system is actively commodifying every aspect of our lives including our media, our education, our elections, and even our faith (think megachurch). We are all just a profit center for someone. The damage done in this last election will just accelerate this country’s decline. It may be reversible, but I fear not in the remainder of my lifetime.

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