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Joinfortmill

(16,694 posts)
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:00 AM Dec 12

Fuck 'TIME'

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/11/politics/trump-time-magazine-person-of-the-year/index.html

'Trump named Time’s ‘Person of the Year’ for second time'

My words: Ok, folks, here it is. Trump isn't worthy of a TIME cover for either the greatest anything or the worst anything. He's just a goddamn grifter who has conned millions of Americans who are dumb, or mean, or both, and in my opinion that doesn't qualify him.

We can differ on his 'worthiness' for the cover, but I personally object to the blatantly rude and condescending assumption that I was unaware of that fact.

Civility on this site is quickly eroding. Take care. And, Fuck Time.
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Fuck 'TIME' (Original Post) Joinfortmill Dec 12 OP
You don't seem to understand the meaning of the annual cover. Fiendish Thingy Dec 12 #1
I do understand that. My comment stands. Joinfortmill Dec 12 #6
I mean, I get why he was chosen Polybius Dec 12 #22
How about Biden! Meowmee Dec 12 #61
If he would have ran and won, sure Polybius Dec 16 #63
Well, I don't know what their rules are, but they could've made it him instead of that monster Meowmee Dec 16 #64
I think person of the year should be restricted to those who have made a Karadeniz Dec 12 #32
Like the first female vice president? LearnedHand Dec 12 #54
That's a very worthy opinion. Wiz Imp Dec 12 #57
I know....but the malefactors generate ample attention. Karadeniz Dec 12 #58
Who would you say was more impactful in USA this past year? nt kelly1mm Dec 12 #60
It can be an honor IF the impact they're highlighting is good, ortherwise it can be impactful bad people electric_blue68 Dec 12 #16
Yep DeepWinter Dec 12 #30
Actually it used to be that way until 9/11 when they got so much pushback because they were going to put JohnSJ Dec 12 #41
Criteria mede8er Dec 12 #44
Craven Wild blueberry Dec 12 #2
Worst POTY ever, worst president ever. Initech Dec 12 #3
Both Hitler and Stalin were persons of the year. Dave Bowman Dec 12 #4
And Putin SocialDemocrat61 Dec 12 #24
". . .for better or for worse. . ." DinahMoeHum Dec 12 #31
His balcony appearance at the NYSE opening yorkster Dec 12 #5
yup. wouldn't watch it, but that is where his fanboys are, and those anti-corporation crowd who either voted for stein JohnSJ Dec 12 #42
Saw it on MSNBC, switched to BBC and same thing. yorkster Dec 12 #43
And the Market dropped. Turbineguy Dec 12 #56
Time does not call it "The Most Admirable Person of the Year." MineralMan Dec 12 #7
Next year it might be Luigi M. Silent Type Dec 12 #8
Nah, they have named the worst pieces of shit Person of the Year before, but it should have been Musk themaguffin Dec 12 #9
Piece of Shit of the Year would be a fitting tittle for Muskrat. Dave Bowman Dec 12 #47
As well Rebl2 Dec 12 #59
There was a 'Time' during his 1st term SledDriver Dec 12 #10
That last picture, omg I haven't stopped laughing since looking at it. Emile Dec 12 #38
Another news source I will never read again kimbutgar Dec 12 #11
Exactly Joinfortmill Dec 12 #13
He has moved from a tie with Hitler sarisataka Dec 12 #12
This may actually make Time rasputin1952 Dec 12 #14
Time hasn't been Time since the early 80s. Iggo Dec 12 #35
It's About IMPACT on our Country, and the world. And drumphf has Impacted our world like an asreroid! electric_blue68 Dec 12 #15
He's definitely an asseroid. Iggo Dec 12 #36
Heh electric_blue68 Dec 12 #40
Lol! Dave Bowman Dec 12 #48
I went grocery shopping this morning and there his miserable orange puss was on the cover at the checkout. Vinca Dec 12 #17
List of previous recepients MichMan Dec 12 #18
Yep and 90% of the time they pick the winner as person of the year FreeState Dec 16 #65
Fat Fuck Criminal of the Year Blue Owl Dec 12 #19
Yes, very bad idea. moondust Dec 12 #20
It shows the magazine never learned IzzaNuDay Dec 12 #21
Hitler was okay, though? Iggo Dec 12 #23
Feel better? I would have had I been born. Joinfortmill Dec 12 #26
You started it. Iggo Dec 12 #29
Hitler was also chosen as Time's Person of the Year. LetMyPeopleVote Dec 12 #25
Yes, in 1938... Joinfortmill Dec 12 #34
I might go out and buy one Wicked Blue Dec 12 #27
Use it for dart practice as well..... a kennedy Dec 12 #39
The moron is going to take this as a compliment 😡 TommieMommy Dec 12 #28
Fact-Checking What Donald Trump Said in His 2024 Person of the Year Interview With TIME LetMyPeopleVote Dec 12 #33
Yeah but facts are for suckers, or something. Dave Bowman Dec 12 #50
I haven't bought a Time magazine since the 1980's. Who cares! Emile Dec 12 #37
Actually he's earned it, for all it's worth. ThePartyThatListens Dec 12 #45
I'd have a smidgen EndlessWire Dec 12 #46
For Absolute Worst Bobbie Jo Dec 12 #49
they're tripping over each other to glue their lips to his ass... spanone Dec 12 #51
Fuckem - boycott that trash Blues Heron Dec 12 #52
I can't remember the last time Time had a good article. Decades ago? thebigidea Dec 12 #53
The Person of the Year... Mike Nelson Dec 12 #55
I don't read Time and never will Meowmee Dec 12 #62
The only thing orange psycho is worthy of regarding time Meowmee Dec 16 #66

Polybius

(18,526 posts)
63. If he would have ran and won, sure
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 02:20 PM
Dec 16

But by Time's standard, he wasn't in the news enough after July. I'm also a huge Biden fan and wanted him to run.

Meowmee

(6,259 posts)
64. Well, I don't know what their rules are, but they could've made it him instead of that monster
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 04:53 PM
Dec 16

Ring he would hang in there, but I guess it wasn’t meant to be. I don’t know, people say that the polling was so bad that he had no chance to win but who knows. * I just noticed that this was my 6000 post 🎉

Karadeniz

(23,596 posts)
32. I think person of the year should be restricted to those who have made a
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:56 PM
Dec 12

helpful contribution to society. Evil deserves no reward and a time cover is a reward. Biden, for his beneficial record, deserved the publicity.

Wiz Imp

(2,544 posts)
57. That's a very worthy opinion.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 05:03 PM
Dec 12

Unfortunately, it has nothing to do with the criteria TIME has used for a century (or however long they've been doing it).

electric_blue68

(18,968 posts)
16. It can be an honor IF the impact they're highlighting is good, ortherwise it can be impactful bad people
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:08 PM
Dec 12

...like drumphf 😔

DeepWinter

(625 posts)
30. Yep
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:54 PM
Dec 12

Time's Person of the Year isn't the Best, Nicest, most Awesome. It's simply who had the most impact.

Thus:
Vladimir Putin (2007)
Yasser Arafat (1993)
Ruhollah Khomeini (1979)
Deng Xiaoping (1978, 1985)
Adolf Hitler (1938
Joseph Stalin (1939, 1942)

So he joins an appropriate list.

JohnSJ

(96,838 posts)
41. Actually it used to be that way until 9/11 when they got so much pushback because they were going to put
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 01:19 PM
Dec 12

bin laden on the cover that they changed it to Giuliani, "america's mayor my ass"

Since then they have cowed to their perceived view of those with positive connotations.

It is all BS anyway.


mede8er

(259 posts)
44. Criteria
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 02:44 PM
Dec 12

If the criteria for being chosen as Time’s “Person Of The Year” is to be a lying POS hell bent on eliminating the democratic ideals established in the Constitution then they got the right person.

DinahMoeHum

(22,531 posts)
31. ". . .for better or for worse. . ."
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:54 PM
Dec 12

is the only criteria Time magazine uses

a person, group, idea, or object that "for better or for worse ... has done the most to influence the events of the year"

JohnSJ

(96,838 posts)
42. yup. wouldn't watch it, but that is where his fanboys are, and those anti-corporation crowd who either voted for stein
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 01:22 PM
Dec 12

didn't bother to vote, demonstrate again, as they did in 2016, just how screwed up they are.


yorkster

(2,535 posts)
43. Saw it on MSNBC, switched to BBC and same thing.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 01:29 PM
Dec 12

In general, I'm watching far less telly, but that image caught me by surprise and not in a good way.

themaguffin

(4,235 posts)
9. Nah, they have named the worst pieces of shit Person of the Year before, but it should have been Musk
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:20 AM
Dec 12

who paid hundreds of billions for trump.

SledDriver

(2,103 posts)
10. There was a 'Time' during his 1st term
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:23 AM
Dec 12

where 'Time' avoided putting him on the cover. They used artwork, drawings, subtly or not so subtly implying it was him, but not an actual photo. Just to deny him the cover he so wanted to be able to frame and display at his shitty golf resort.

Now they put a photo of him on the cover, like some great statesman, looking off like he's got his work cut out for him saving the country.The hell didn't they use a more realistic pic?








Or, since his boy fElon Musk has welcomed himself into the federal government and apparently just assumed the role, maybe something like this

kimbutgar

(23,675 posts)
11. Another news source I will never read again
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:29 AM
Dec 12

They should have made President Biden person of the year.

sarisataka

(21,304 posts)
12. He has moved from a tie with Hitler
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:29 AM
Dec 12

to a tie with Stalin

What Time said about his fellows:

TIME explained what was perhaps the most controversial of its choices thus: "Hitler became in 1938 the greatest threatening force that the democratic, freedom-loving world faces today" (1/2/39)


TIME described this public worship: "Joseph Stalin has gone a long way toward deifying himself while alive. No flattery is too transparent, no compliment too broad for him. He became the fountain of all Socialist wisdom" (1/1/40)


Threat to democracy- check, cult of personality- check, narcissist- check

rasputin1952

(83,252 posts)
14. This may actually make Time
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:44 AM
Dec 12

have less stature than they already possess.

Hitler was "Man of the Year" back in 1938, the only thing that can be said about that is that he certainly had an impact on the world.
In 1939, it was Stalin.
While neither of them would gain my respect, neither will DJT.
FWIW, Putin and some other notorious people have been on the cover

"Person of the Year" seems a bit of a misnomer, considering that "person" implies someone with a semblance of being human,
something I do not see in the current "honoree".





Iggo

(48,603 posts)
35. Time hasn't been Time since the early 80s.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 01:04 PM
Dec 12

Or maybe it was always that way, and I just figured it out in my early 20s…lol.

electric_blue68

(18,968 posts)
15. It's About IMPACT on our Country, and the world. And drumphf has Impacted our world like an asreroid!
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:59 AM
Dec 12

Sure it'd be lovely if they'd highlighted someone(s) doing great work... but unfortunately drumphf coming back into the pResidency is scarely impactful!!!

Vinca

(51,298 posts)
17. I went grocery shopping this morning and there his miserable orange puss was on the cover at the checkout.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:12 PM
Dec 12

I turned the magazine around and said, rather loudly, "I can't look at that."

MichMan

(13,647 posts)
18. List of previous recepients
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:16 PM
Dec 12

This century includes Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Greta Thunberg, Taylor Swift, Elon Musk, Vladimir Putin, Mark Zuckerberg, Rudy Guliani, Pope Francis, Angela Merkel, Zalenskyy, and others



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Person_of_the_Year

FreeState

(10,701 posts)
65. Yep and 90% of the time they pick the winner as person of the year
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 05:00 PM
Dec 16

• 2020: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
• 2016: Donald Trump
• 2012: Barack Obama
• 2008: Barack Obama
• 2004: George W. Bush
• 2000: George W. Bush
• 1996: David Ho (AIDS researcher, unrelated to the election)
• 1992: Bill Clinton

moondust

(20,533 posts)
20. Yes, very bad idea.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:34 PM
Dec 12

You don't want to encourage or promote an oppressive wannabe tyrant who will interpret it as a full-blown endorsement and be emboldened to double down.

Joinfortmill

(16,694 posts)
34. Yes, in 1938...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 01:03 PM
Dec 12

when the concentration camps were in full operation, but the death camps were yet to come in 1942, I believe. Maybe Trump will make the cover again once he institutes the detention camps. Just a guess, folks.

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,858 posts)
33. Fact-Checking What Donald Trump Said in His 2024 Person of the Year Interview With TIME
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:58 PM
Dec 12

trump lied in the time interview. Here are some of the fact checks



https://time.com/7201574/person-of-the-year-2024-donald-trump-fact-check/

For the 2024 Person of the Year issue, former and future President Donald Trump sat down for a lengthy interview with TIME on Nov. 25 at his Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Fla.

TIME has published the transcript of that conversation. In addition, below is a review for facts and context of several of Trump’s statements from the interview......

What Trump Said: "I won it in 2016 on the border, and I fixed the border, and it was really fixed, and they came in, and they just dislodged everything that I did, and it became far worse than it was in 2016."

“I had the most secure border we've ever had, and I never had to go to Congress for that.”

The Facts: Trump has often asserted that he fixed the border during his first term, at times pointing to his expansion of the border wall. According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, there were 450 miles of “new primary and secondary border miles” constructed on the Southwest border between January 2017 and January 2021. Much of that construction was built to replace “dilapidated and outdated designs.” About 80 miles of primary and secondary barriers were built where no previous barrier existed.

Apprehension numbers at the border provide another metric, but there’s disagreement over whether an effective border strategy should translate to a high apprehension rate or a low one. ICE arrests increased during Trump’s previous term, but they did not reach the levels seen under Obama. Southwest border encounters hit a record high last year, but dropped 77% by August 2024. The spike in migrants seen early in Biden’s term began in the spring of 2020, during Trump’s final year, according to Politifact.

Trump also did appeal to Congress for help with border enforcement. In his first year in office, he addressed the nation about the immigration crisis, calling on Congress to secure the border, and later asked Congress for $4.5 billion in emergency border funding......

What Trump Said: “They don't want to see all of this transgender, which is, it's just taken over. And then you take a look, and not very many years after the person who, you know, went through this process is saying, Who did this to me? As you know, it's a very high percentage.”

The Facts: A 2021 review of 27 studies involving nearly 8,000 transgender teens and adults who underwent any kind of “gender-affirmation surgeries” found that an average of 1% expressed regret. In October, a study published in JAMA Pediatrics found that the majority of transgender youths who received gender-affirming medical care such as puberty blockers or hormones are satisfied with their care. Of the 220 youths surveyed, only 4% expressed regret.
45. Actually he's earned it, for all it's worth.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 02:50 PM
Dec 12

He won against all odds.

He's now the new Republican God, above Reagan.

For now at least, let's see what he does in the next 2 and 4 years.

EndlessWire

(7,303 posts)
46. I'd have a smidgen
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 03:59 PM
Dec 12

more of respect for Time if Time had photoshopped a blonde, Hitler moustache on his scowling face. That would have said a great deal. That's who he admires and wants to be.

Or, if they had used that awful, extremely overweight photo shown on this thread, where he looks like Lil Kim and his weight problem.

But, nah, I can't stand to see tRump's scowling face, so this cover means nothing to me. I wouldn't buy it, wouldn't save it--except, as stated upthread, if it came as toilet paper.

spanone

(137,699 posts)
51. they're tripping over each other to glue their lips to his ass...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 04:11 PM
Dec 12

Zuckerberg gave a mil to his inauguration. fuck him too.

Blues Heron

(6,241 posts)
52. Fuckem - boycott that trash
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 04:13 PM
Dec 12

Let them know why. Don’t reward that scum with any publicity good or “bad” (like he won’t treat it as an honor…yeah right)

Just fuck. This. Shit.

thebigidea

(13,328 posts)
53. I can't remember the last time Time had a good article. Decades ago?
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 04:16 PM
Dec 12

I never understood the annual hoopla about the blah blah of the year. It just seems like marketing for Time more than anything about the person or amorphous concept chosen. Considering how absolutely pathetic the formerly illustrious Time/Life empire has been in my lifetime... who gives a shit really?

Mike Nelson

(10,383 posts)
55. The Person of the Year...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 04:19 PM
Dec 12

... in includes all the good people and all the bad people. The bad person won. I understand the TIME reasoning.
They could have altered the headline this time... just to make it clear: "[BAD] Person of the Year"

Meowmee

(6,259 posts)
62. I don't read Time and never will
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 06:34 PM
Dec 12

If they are picking someone who is a psycho etc. they should be required to state that in their article, which I am pretty sure they have not done- correct me if I am wrong. Choosing evil people simply has the effect of elevating and reinforces people like this imo to their followers and anyone who can be swayed by it.

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